hertsexile Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 City have been charged for failing to control their players following the outrageous penalty awarded by the referee. It is a shame that the clubs and mangers have no real way of complaining about a referees performance without being charged!! Shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, hertsexile said: City have been charged for failing to control their players following the outrageous penalty awarded by the referee. It is a shame that the clubs and mangers have no real way of complaining about a referees performance without being charged!! Shocking We've all seen what happened. Ref gave biased shocker of a penalty to the oppo and the City players moaned about it. What should they do, stand there applauding him? You can't make this bunch of ***** up, you really can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 So the referee got the award WRONG the players disagree, get booked, then the club get fined for not controlling there players, what do EFL expect, the mind boggles, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 How much were they charged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sturny said: How much were they charged? Nothing as yet city have until 23rd April to respond. Wonder what the reaction will be? City inevitably will be fined & referee gets away Scot free for being told he is wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevster3 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 And the total knob of a referee goes unpunished, what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Talk about rubbing salt in. Sound like a right jobs worth to send a report in after making a mistake like he did. He must be on some sort of spectrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Ref obviously didn't like us trying to spoil his man of the match performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivorguy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Hopefully will allow the club to present film evidence of the ref's decision which was the cause of any protest by our players The standard of refereeing at this level, and others probably, needs to improve dramatically to cope adequately with the modern game Hopefully City will invest in proper legal representation. Will be worth every penny - not only to us for this incident but for the division as a whole if spotlight is turned on to the often unacceptable level of refereeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isawjonshaw Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Take it out on Reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 point deduction (only if we're in 6th by two points) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Disgrace. I don't like to go down the conspiracy theory road- and no I don't think we are victims of one as such, but we seem to be very...unfortunate. Last year and a half let's see: Wright 2 game ban on flimsy grounds. Diedhiou 6 games for 'spitting' Now this nonsense- after a disgrace of a penalty. I won't even discuss the 3-5 wrongly disallowed goals, said penalty, Tettey avoiding a red in December to name but 3...sure I'll mention it but I won't discuss it. Lot of misfortune though, nobody can deny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Disgrace. I don't like to go down the conspiracy theory road- and no I don't think we are victims of one as such, but we seem to be very...unfortunate. Last year and a half let's see: Wright 2 game ban on flimsy grounds. Diedhiou 6 games for 'spitting' Now this nonsense- after a disgrace of a penalty. I won't even discuss the 3-5 wrongly disallowed goals, said penalty, Tettey avoiding a red in December to name but 3...sure I'll mention it but I won't discuss it. Lot of misfortune though, nobody can deny... Don't worry it all evens itself out though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, hertsexile said: Nothing as yet city have until 23rd April to respond. Wonder what the reaction will be? City inevitably will be fined & referee gets away Scot free for being told he is wrong Bailey Wright will get a four game ban . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Apparently Scott Duncan has just been appointed the 4th official for our game against Sheffield Wednesday.....can we appeal this? total p-take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Isawjonshaw said: Take it out on Reading! This..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I hope we are making an official complaint about the officials! What an absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Well that’ll be a popular choice with our bench then FA just done it to wind us up if true!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 This won’t be popular. Having played amateur football for 25 years and followed BCFC and football all my life I can only recall a handful of occasions when a ref has changed their mind about a decision they have made. Usually this has occurred following a discussion with another official. I can not think of any occasion when players complaining has resulted in a ref changing their decision, although I have (rarely) seen requests from players to consult the Lino being taken up by the ref. As frustrating and hopeless as this is I am bound to conclude that confronting officials achieves nothing, other than in this case, further punishment. Officials are human, they make mistakes and in reality aren’t going to reverse a decision. Being a professional (or even an amateur) sportsperson really means you have to come to terms with this, even if it is totally infuriating and unjust. We will also be fined for picking up so many yellow cards in the game. Off to put on my hard hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Disgrace. I don't like to go down the conspiracy theory road- and no I don't think we are victims of one as such, but we seem to be very...unfortunate. Last year and a half let's see: Wright 2 game ban on flimsy grounds. Diedhiou 6 games for 'spitting' Now this nonsense- after a disgrace of a penalty. I won't even discuss the 3-5 wrongly disallowed goals, said penalty, Tettey avoiding a red in December to name but 3...sure I'll mention it but I won't discuss it. Lot of misfortune though, nobody can deny... I smell a rat and the rat smells of gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 James linnington trevor kettle two off the top of my head guarranteed farcical decisions it seems like to me that the more ludicrus decisions these morons make the more attension they bring to themselfs increasing their chances of reffing in the prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, yardy said: Apparently Scott Duncan has just been appointed the 4th official for our game against Sheffield Wednesday.....can we appeal this? total p-take I hope this is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: This won’t be popular. Having played amateur football for 25 years and followed BCFC and football all my life I can only recall a handful of occasions when a ref has changed their mind about a decision they have made. Usually this has occurred following a discussion with another official. I can not think of any occasion when players complaining has resulted in a ref changing their decision, although I have (rarely) seen requests from players to consult the Lino being taken up by the ref. As frustrating and hopeless as this is I am bound to conclude that confronting officials achieves nothing, other than in this case, further punishment. Officials are human, they make mistakes and in reality aren’t going to reverse a decision. Being a professional (or even an amateur) sportsperson really means you have to come to terms with this, even if it is totally infuriating and unjust. We will also be fined for picking up so many yellow cards in the game. Off to put on my hard hat. I don’t think you’re far wrong - the players completely lost their heads. Nothing about it was OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yardy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Riaz said: I hope this is a joke I wish it was..... This ref gave our bench 2 yellow cards, what is he going to do when he is stood beside our bench the whole game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 What a joke, Hourihane should be done for deceiving the official but oh look its City coming off worse AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 Get in the ear all game from the bench, being asked to explain why referee has made that decision. Answer not a clue Scooby Doo. Is Kieth Stroud in charge of game against Wednesday. That combination would be rubbing salt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 That penalty decision wasn't a "mistake" believe me. It was a have a penalty home side, big club, lots of fans, ex prem decision. End OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Non story. FA issue a fine to any club who get 6+ bookings in any game. It’s automatic when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: What a joke, Hourihane should be done for deceiving the official but oh look its City coming off worse AGAIN This is a good point with what we had with Bailey Wright - how does that not apply in this scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Odds on LJ getting a yellow card on Monday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Non story. FA issue a fine to any club who get 6+ bookings in any game. It’s automatic when that happens. Tbh mate this looks like it’s another charge altogether, surrounding and voicing their displeasure at the Ref after he gave that joke of a decision. I’m expecting another charge to follow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pezo said: This is a good point with what we had with Bailey Wright - how does that not apply in this scenario. Answer = because it’s Villa. No other reason behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, BCFC11 said: Tbh mate this looks like it’s another charge altogether, surrounding and voicing their displeasure at the Ref after he gave that joke of a decision. I’m expecting another charge to follow.... Oh well if that’s the case then it’s ridiculous..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: Tbh mate this looks like it’s another charge altogether, surrounding and voicing their displeasure at the Ref after he gave that joke of a decision. I’m expecting another charge to follow.... Being "mean" and upsetting the feelings of FA hero Scott Duncan online by altering his Wiki page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, Bar BS3 said: Oh well if that’s the case then it’s even more ridiculous..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: Being "mean" and upsetting the feelings of FA hero Scott Duncan online He’ll probably be promoted to the Premier League list of Referee’s after that shambles, so he probably wouldn’t care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: He’ll probably be promoted to the Premier League list of Referee’s after that shambles, so he probably wouldn’t care. I love watching referees like that on TV. They are a ******* scream. I just don't like them reffing Bristol City games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I’m sure the closed-club that is referees assessment hasnt found the referee at fault! they cant single out fault for one of their own, surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: I love watching referees like that on TV. They are a ******* scream. I just don't like them reffing Bristol City games Knowing our luck if/when we go up, who will we get in our inaugural game there- and probably some important mid-season and late season ones too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Knowing our luck if/when we go up, who will we get in our inaugural game there- and probably some important mid-season and late season ones too... You mean he could end up following us around like a bad dose If his middle name is Tom he has the initials STD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Pezo said: This is a good point with what we had with Bailey Wright - how does that not apply in this scenario. Truthfully- it's typical FA. Launch a new campaign, pick out a few random/moderate profile examples then forget all about it. Rinse and repeat- typical FA! Those initials are well chosen in their case I must say, what they do or should stand for. We were just unfortunate putting aside big club favouritism theories, that it occurred right at the start of their latest 'campaign'. 6 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: You mean he could end up following us around like a bad dose Ha, would be typical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 59 minutes ago, hodge said: Don't worry it all evens itself out though In our case, I think our luck- and probably sides like us, the evening out has probably magically been distributed to other sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I'm sure they are in good faith but what they should look at is their own shortcomings. A ref as lost as they are themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 What is the point with replays if the ref or his supervisors can't see them and take adecuate action?? Where was VAR.. Brain deadness supreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippintogg Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 More cards than a poker player https://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=1170 and take a look at the games he has officiated in with us. Leeds away, Rotherham home and Villa away. I don't believe in conspiracy theories its just that he's a crap ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, hodge said: Don't worry it all evens itself out though Does it? Do you live in Utopia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Does it? Do you live in Utopia? Sorry mate but I have to woosh ya!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pippintogg Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 He's not the worst in the division but only Duncan & Gavin Ward have issued 6 red cards as well as the yellows. This is just the Championship games. If you include all his matches it's 99 Yellow and 8 Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Don't worry chaps. The club should just explain that the players were just trying to get someones attention. The FA won't have a case and we'll be let off. That's how it works now.... The ******* bell ends!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Ivorguy said: Hopefully will allow the club to present film evidence of the ref's decision which was the cause of any protest by our players The standard of refereeing at this level, and others probably, needs to improve dramatically to cope adequately with the modern game Hopefully City will invest in proper legal representation. Will be worth every penny - not only to us for this incident but for the division as a whole if spotlight is turned on to the often unacceptable level of refereeing Yes agree with this that lunatic should be nowhere near a whistle again these goons need to be reprimanded for being given a bung from the big club syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevep38 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, hodge said: Odds on LJ getting a yellow card on Monday? Odds on Macca, lj dh,get red carded and sent to the stands for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, yardy said: I wish it was..... This ref gave our bench 2 yellow cards, what is he going to do when he is stood beside our bench the whole game! Scotty Duncan! What a ######! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Isawjonshaw said: Take it out on Reading! Or Writing! Or Arithmetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 How ironic would it be for us to beat Villa at Wembley in the PO Final #sweetrevenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Jerseybean said: This won’t be popular. Having played amateur football for 25 years and followed BCFC and football all my life I can only recall a handful of occasions when a ref has changed their mind about a decision they have made. Usually this has occurred following a discussion with another official. I can not think of any occasion when players complaining has resulted in a ref changing their decision, although I have (rarely) seen requests from players to consult the Lino being taken up by the ref. As frustrating and hopeless as this is I am bound to conclude that confronting officials achieves nothing, other than in this case, further punishment. Officials are human, they make mistakes and in reality aren’t going to reverse a decision. Being a professional (or even an amateur) sportsperson really means you have to come to terms with this, even if it is totally infuriating and unjust. We will also be fined for picking up so many yellow cards in the game. Off to put on my hard hat. You say officials are only human [Although a DNA test for Duncan might prove otherwise], and so surely by the same token are players? In their frustration and sense of injustice, and with andrenaline pumping.........they confront the official. It's high stakes in professional sport, and I totally get it, and don't blame them one bit for reacting. Ok so it's illogical.........but so was his feckin refereeing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Loosey Boy said: How ironic would it be for us to beat Villa at Wembley in the PO Final #sweetrevenge If Karma really does exist...... 90 (+5) UNBELIEVABLE SCENES AT WEMBLEY PENALTY TO BRISTOL CITY!!! Villa, Sky Sports, but most of all Scott Duncan will be foaming at the mouth at this decision to award Bristol City a penalty here, From a late Bristol City corner, Connor Hourihane goes down in his own penalty area and falls into Jack Hunt, and the Ref points straight to the spot, replays show just what a diving shithouse he is, as he tries to cheat his way past Bristol City again, in his own penalty area this time trying relieve the pressure on his side from the corner but takes out Hunt in doing so. Incredible. 90 (+6) GOOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLL DIEDHIOU!!!! 90 (+7) ALL OVER BRISTOL CITY ARE PROMOTED!!! Despite 4th Official Scott Duncan trying his best to add on another 20mins injury time, and sending the entire City bench to the stands they’ve done it! Karma they say..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Surely we have a good case as we can go and show our disciplinary record this season and point out that this match wasn’t niggly or bad tempered as such, even though there was a lot riding on it. We had just played WBA for example in the same situation and it wasn’t a card fest. If we can prove that normally Referees don’t usually find refereeing us a problem then the spotlight goes back on Scott Duncan and his team, but like as stated it’s one of their own so will they do anything, not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 15 hours ago, hertsexile said: Nothing as yet city have until 23rd April to respond. Wonder what the reaction will be? City inevitably will be fined & referee gets away Scot free for being told he is wrong Then the referee should be fined for not implementing the correct rules, but he won't, the EFL will cover it, for 2 incorrect decisions, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 16 hours ago, hertsexile said: City have been charged for failing to control their players following the outrageous penalty awarded by the referee. It is a shame that the clubs and mangers have no real way of complaining about a referees performance without being charged!! Shocking What is the point in complaining about a refs performance though? Even if he is then punished by dropping down the leagues, that won’t change the result from the day and the impact that had on a season. As frustrating as it is, there is little point in complaining after the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Jerseybean said: This won’t be popular. Having played amateur football for 25 years and followed BCFC and football all my life I can only recall a handful of occasions when a ref has changed their mind about a decision they have made. Usually this has occurred following a discussion with another official. I can not think of any occasion when players complaining has resulted in a ref changing their decision, although I have (rarely) seen requests from players to consult the Lino being taken up by the ref. As frustrating and hopeless as this is I am bound to conclude that confronting officials achieves nothing, other than in this case, further punishment. Officials are human, they make mistakes and in reality aren’t going to reverse a decision. Being a professional (or even an amateur) sportsperson really means you have to come to terms with this, even if it is totally infuriating and unjust. We will also be fined for picking up so many yellow cards in the game. Off to put on my hard hat. What you say is correct, in the vast majority of cases protesting to a ref after a decision has been made is pointless, however part of the reasons for these protests - particularly with pens - is to try and influence the officials decision if a similar situation were to arise later in the game in your favor. If a ref recognizes he made a poor decision he may well decide to ‘even things out’ if the opportunity arises! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 16 hours ago, bristolcitysweden said: Where was VAR. This. In the CL last night VAR was the kingmaker, and rightfully so. Mane was a good yard on, and Aguero was off in the buildup to Sterling's goal. Just make the timings quicker and the system gets very good very quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Redmycolour said: Then the referee should be fined for not implementing the correct rules, but he won't, the EFL will cover it, for 2 incorrect decisions, Debatable it is 2. One yes, the penalty- 100%, the disallowed goal- in real time? Could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: If a shit ref gets dropped down the leagues then someone will need to step up to replace them. This should be one of the better performing referees from the league below. Better referees equals less farcical decisions. I appreciate that, but it still doesn’t change the outcome of the match already played. Surely you are better off hoping he has another terrible performance in a game which might actually work in your favour further down the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: If a shit ref gets dropped down the leagues then someone will need to step up to replace them. This should be one of the better performing referees from the league below. Better referees equals less farcical decisions. But at the end of the day, some poor sod still gets landed with Scott Duncan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 3 hours ago, ScottishRed said: What you say is correct, in the vast majority of cases protesting to a ref after a decision has been made is pointless, however part of the reasons for these protests - particularly with pens - is to try and influence the officials decision if a similar situation were to arise later in the game in your favor. If a ref recognizes he made a poor decision he may well decide to ‘even things out’ if the opportunity arises! ScottishRed yes it maybe part of the reason, however, by doing so they risk a yellow or red card, which only adds to the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: ScottishRed yes it maybe part of the reason, however, by doing so they risk a yellow or red card, which only adds to the problem. They do, but equally they have the opportunity to make their point without too much aggression which may result in a card. There is a way of doing these things in a calculated manner that minimizes risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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