Boston Red Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Three examples. 1. City kick off the first half away to QPR. The ball gets played back to Liam Walsh. A QPR player starts charging like a headless chicken towards Walsh. Massengo, standing on the half-way line, sees this and quickly runs between the QPR player and Walsh to block him off and protect Walsh. 3 seconds into his Bristol City career, and he is already reading the game perfectly. 2. Away at Hull, Brownhill picks the ball off the back four and Hunt starts to trot forward. Although Hunt is still ten yards inside his own half, Massengo sees there is going to be an overlap and points to Brownhill to play the ball up the right wing. Then Massengo goes over to the right side to provide cover. Brownhill plays the ball up to Weimann coming deep who sets Hunt away down the right, and the own goal is forced. But it was Massengo who saw it all and set the play going and provided cover. 3. Two minutes later at Hull, in the same position, again Massengo points to Brownhill to play the ball up the right wing to Hunt. Massengo is again providing cover and occupying two Hull defenders. Hunt is man-marked so Brownhill plays it square to Taylor Moore. Massengo is not happy and again points to Taylor Moore to give it to Hunt. Moore finally gives the ball to Hunt who sets Weimann away and Afobe scores. Massengo, having provided cover on the right wing then runs 70 yards to celebrate with Afobe by the left corner flag. Weimann, Hunt and Afobe rightly get the credit for the goals and assists but neither goal would have happened without Massengo. This kid is mature beyond his years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 He’s quite good isn’t he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Tinman with hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Boston Red said: Three examples. 1. City kick off the first half away to QPR. The ball gets played back to Liam Walsh. A QPR player starts charging like a headless chicken towards Walsh. Massengo, standing on the half-way line, sees this and quickly runs between the QPR player and Walsh to block him off and protect Walsh. 3 seconds into his Bristol City career, and he is already reading the game perfectly. 2. Away at Hull, Brownhill picks the ball off the back four and Hunt starts to trot forward. Although Hunt is still ten yards inside his own half, Massengo sees there is going to be an overlap and points to Brownhill to play the ball up the right wing. Then Massengo goes over to the right side to provide cover. Brownhill plays the ball up to Weimann coming deep who sets Hunt away down the right, and the own goal is forced. But it was Massengo who saw it all and set the play going and provided cover. 3. Two minutes later at Hull, in the same position, again Massengo points to Brownhill to play the ball up the right wing to Hunt. Massengo is again providing cover and occupying two Hull defenders. Hunt is man-marked so Brownhill plays it square to Taylor Moore. Massengo is not happy and again points to Taylor Moore to give it to Hunt. Moore finally gives the ball to Hunt who sets Weimann away and Afobe scores. Massengo, having provided cover on the right wing then runs 70 yards to celebrate with Afobe by the left corner flag. Weimann, Hunt and Afobe rightly get the credit for the goals and assists but neither goal would have happened without Massengo. This kid is mature beyond his years. Best pointer I've seen in years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Remember back in the day when we lost the LDV to Stoke, they scored from a quickly taken free kick which was taken whilst our experiences pros were dawdling and moaning to the ref? When Hull won a free kick on Saturday I noticed that Massengo instantly ran to block the taker from taking a quick one. As a kid, he could have switched off but he's very tuned in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Judda said: Best pointer I've seen in years! How dare you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, mozo said: Remember back in the day when we lost the LDV to Stoke, they scored from a quickly taken free kick which was taken whilst our experiences pros were dawdling and moaning to the ref? When Hull won a free kick on Saturday I noticed that Massengo instantly ran to block the taker from taking a quick one. As a kid, he could have switched off but he's very tuned in. The kick was taken so quickly, in fact, that the ball was still rolling. Where's a fussy referee when you need one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 51 minutes ago, myol'man said: Tinman with hair And a right foot 49 minutes ago, mozo said: Remember back in the day when we lost the LDV to Stoke, they scored from a quickly taken free kick which was taken whilst our experiences pros were dawdling and moaning to the ref? When Hull won a free kick on Saturday I noticed that Massengo instantly ran to block the taker from taking a quick one. As a kid, he could have switched off but he's very tuned in. TBF, they took the free kick while the ref was still booking Carey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Southport Red said: And a right foot TBF, they took the free kick while the ref was still booking Carey. I’m still not over that free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 It certainly looks like we got our selfs a proper balller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, alexukhc said: I’m still not over that free kick Sorry, didn't mean to bring it back up, I just wanted an example and that's the one that sticks in mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, mozo said: Sorry, didn't mean to bring it back up, I just wanted an example and that's the one that sticks in mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, myol'man said: Tinman with hair Tinman developed into a classy midfielder but it probably took him several seasons to hone his skills. This lad is only just 18 ffs.........and what a signing! In a couple of seasons if he continues to develop he’ll be playing for a top PL outfit - I can see him at Anfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Robbored said: Tinman developed into a classy midfielder but it probably took him several seasons to hone his skills. This lad is only just 18 ffs.........and what a signing! In a couple of seasons if he continues to develop he’ll be playing for a top PL outfit - I can see him at Anfield. Leading us out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 One thing that does seem to be happening with out players is their muscle mass is increasing year on year with training. A year or 2 of that for massengo, along with his natural talent and his body growing into an adult, and he would be unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Leading us out I wish! Unfortunately I can’t see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_red Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I’ve not been this excited about a young midfielder since Frankie Artus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Let's face it, Massengo is with us for this season only, he will be off in the summer for at least £25m. Unless, of course, we can make the promised land with him. Sheer quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, myol'man said: Tinman with hair Wow ... so seems quite good then? After all the moaners on here who said he was a massive risk, cos he never lived in bristol and didnt know the culture (not aimed at you myol'man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, soultrader said: Wow ... so seems quite good then? After all the moaners on here who said he was a massive risk, cos he never lived in bristol and didnt know the culture (not aimed at you myol'man) Monaco is a shithole to live in too, so not surprised he came here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 59 minutes ago, i_am_red said: I’ve not been this excited about a young midfielder since Frankie Artus I liked Fartus too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Let's face it, Massengo is with us for this season only, he will be off in the summer for at least £25m. Unless, of course, we can make the promised land with him. Sheer quality. If we got £25m-ish for Webster then Massengo at 18 years old and with 3 years on his contract left at the end of the season we are surely looking at £35 - 40m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Dolman_Stand said: If we got £25m-ish for Webster then Massengo at 18 years old and with 3 years on his contract left at the end of the season we are surely looking at £35 - 40m? I said elsewhere, he will be our first £30m sale. The only thing that can come between Massengo and greatness is Natch. For God's sake keep him off the Natch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, mozo said: I said elsewhere, he will be our first £30m sale. The only thing that can come between Massengo and greatness is Natch. For God's sake keep him off the Natch... Apparently he already drinks it - with vodka ffs. Silly boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Apparently he already drinks it - with vodka ffs. Silly boy. Yep, with Leroy Lita in Oceana... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: Monaco is a shithole to live in too, so not surprised he came here! Good for cars and boats, less so for pedestrians. I’d rather Clifton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, TBW said: I liked Fartus too. He has a wife you know ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Apparently he already drinks it - with vodka ffs. Silly boy. Vodka and natch holy shit brb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Title of thread sounds like a 50's Hispanic western starring Errol Flynn and Henry Fonda ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 hours ago, i_am_red said: I’ve not been this excited about a young midfielder since Frankie Artus Simon Clist mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, CiderHider said: Vodka and natch holy shit brb! Well, there we go then...vodka and natch - the new lager and lime . “I’ll have a pint of Massengo please, mate” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Major Isewater said: He has a wife you know ... I hope her name also begins with F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, alexukhc said: Simon Clist mate Remove the S if you want excitement. And not the one in Simon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, TRL said: Remove the S if you want excitement. And not the one in Simon! Some would never be able to find him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Some would never be able to find him. Half his team mates judging by the passing. Why bother having a clist if you cannot use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, TRL said: Half his team mates judging by the passing. Why bother having a clist if you cannot use him Just can’t put my finger on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 The boy is absolute quality and if he stays injury free and lets his feet do the talking then he could be the player who ends up being sold for a record breaking deal. Let’s just hope he doesn’t run his contract down and leave on a free!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Just can’t put my finger on it. I expect Tinman gave him a right tongue lashing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, bcdc said: Well, there we go then...vodka and natch - the new lager and lime . “I’ll have a pint of Massengo please, mate” I don't even like vodka (traumatised) but that might succeed in making Natch fit for human consumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 He's got that baseline techincal ability you almost expect with players from the continent these days. What makes him stand out for one so young though is his reading of the game. He seems well ahead of anyone we have at the club already for his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Robbored said: Tinman developed into a classy midfielder but it probably took him several seasons to hone his skills. This lad is only just 18 ffs.........and what a signing! In a couple of seasons if he continues to develop he’ll be playing for a top PL outfit - I can see him at Anfield. Yes, for Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 36 minutes ago, Porto Red said: I don't even like vodka (traumatised) but that might succeed in making Natch fit for human consumption If you haven’t got a tin hat, buddy, now might be the time to get one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Portland Bill said: Yes, for Chelsea. Not according to LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezOfCity Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 hours ago, Gert Mare said: The boy is absolute quality and if he stays injury free and lets his feet do the talking then he could be the player who ends up being sold for a record breaking deal. Let’s just hope he doesn’t run his contract down and leave on a free!!!! We'd have him for four seasons if he did so wouldn't be all bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 17 hours ago, i_am_red said: I’ve not been this excited about a young midfielder since Frankie Artus Haven't heard that name in years! He was tipped to make the first team if I remember correctly. Same generation as Tristan Plummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I love watching him play but I still hope Nagy gets back soon. Sometimes you can burn a young player out or wear their body down. Not saying it will happen just I’d personally protect him a bit when we can. I know we can’t right now and that is fine and also being out of the cup means he gets a full rest this week as does everyone which seems like we need right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said: I love watching him play but I still hope Nagy gets back soon. Sometimes you can burn a young player out or wear their body down. Not saying it will happen just I’d personally protect him a bit when we can. I know we can’t right now and that is fine and also being out of the cup means he gets a full rest this week as does everyone which seems like we need right now Amazingly, he might become undroppable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Gazred said: He's got that baseline techincal ability you almost expect with players from the continent these days. What makes him stand out for one so young though is his reading of the game. He seems well ahead of anyone we have at the club already for his age. The continental game is more technical than the British game and the kids are coached to understand it. That is changing in England now with the influx of foreign coaches and the young guns like LJ but the players are still a little behind. In ten years you will need a degree in football to play it at pro level ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, mozo said: Amazingly, he might become undroppable! I wouldn’t say drop him just rotate a bit. LJ was reluctant to rotate Pack and Brownhill last season. In an ideal world over 46 games, start Brownhill and Nagy 34 times and Massengo 24. Protect all 3 of them just Massengo a bit more. Basically his first professional season and 46 games at champ pace could wear him down. Talent wise he is probably better than both but he can reach more in a couple years. Rather protect him as an asset a bit is all. 20+ starts this season and 30+ next. Work him into it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, mozo said: Amazingly, he might become undroppable! Could quite easily see us going to a back 4 at some point especially when Dasilva back and then a front 6 of: Brownhill / Nagy / Massengo Palmer Weimann / Afobe This would be our strongest line up (in that system) The midfield 3 could be rested with Rowe, O’Dowda and Walsh/Bakinson in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Could quite easily see us going to a back 4 at some point especially when Dasilva back and then a front 6 of: Brownhill / Nagy / Massengo Palmer Weimann / Afobe This would be our strongest line up (in that system) The midfield 3 could be rested with Rowe, O’Dowda and Walsh/Bakinson in time. You don't see any place for Eliasson then, Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeAman08 said: I wouldn’t say drop him just rotate a bit. LJ was reluctant to rotate Pack and Brownhill last season. In an ideal world over 46 games, start Brownhill and Nagy 34 times and Massengo 24. Protect all 3 of them just Massengo a bit more. Basically his first professional season and 46 games at champ pace could wear him down. Talent wise he is probably better than both but he can reach more in a couple years. Rather protect him as an asset a bit is all. 20+ starts this season and 30+ next. Work him into it a bit. I imagine that was what the plan was, but with the injuries he might get more game time. Anyway what are we to do wrap him in cotton wool and delivered to Chelsea next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderMB Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I disagree with the idea of Massengo being overplayed. The biggest detriment to a youngsters development in football is the lack of competitive games they play. Obviously, I don't expect Massengo to play every single game, but he should be used whenever he's fit, and rotated when he's not needed. The only reason he shouldn't play a game is tactical. Frankly, I think this is the reason he joined us over staying (and probably playing) at Monaco. He'll get games with us, and LJ will probably play him as much as he wants to be played because he's solid at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said: You don't see any place for Eliasson then, Dave? Not in that type of system. If we went 4231 or 442, then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Not in that type of system. If we went 4231 or 442, then yes. Agreed- maybe in some games if Palmer unavailable, Eliasson one side with Weimann as a wider forward on the other could be interesting but largely agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Red Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 For City's third goal against Hull, it is exactly the same position; Brownhill taking the ball off the back four, Massengo in front of him, options up the right wing. Hull seem to have learnt their lesson from the second goal because they are now man-marking Hunt tightly, forcing him to stand on the touchline. But still Massengo orders Brownhill to pass to Hunt. Brownhill bottles it, because it is a dangerous pass, and knocks it square to Taylor Moore. But then Brownhill holds his hand up to Massengo to say sorry to him for disobeying him!!! The 23 year old club captain of Bristol City, with 200 first team games under his belt, apologising to an 18 year old for not doing what he is told!!! But Massengo won't take no for an answer, points to Taylor Moore to pass to Hunt, though Hunt is closely marked on the touchline, Moore meekly obeys, Hunt nutmeg-flicks the ball down the line for Weimann, and Afobe scores. Moral of the story - always obey Han-Napoleon Massengo. He Noahs best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Boston Red said: For City's third goal against Hull, it is exactly the same position; Brownhill taking the ball off the back four, Massengo in front of him, options up the right wing. Hull seem to have learnt their lesson from the second goal because they are now man-marking Hunt tightly, forcing him to stand on the touchline. But still Massengo orders Brownhill to pass to Hunt. Brownhill bottles it, because it is a dangerous pass, and knocks it square to Taylor Moore. But then Brownhill holds his hand up to Massengo to say sorry to him for disobeying him!!! The 23 year old club captain of Bristol City, with 200 first team games under his belt, apologising to an 18 year old for not doing what he is told!!! But Massengo won't take no for an answer, points to Taylor Moore to pass to Hunt, though Hunt is closely marked on the touchline, Moore meekly obeys, Hunt nutmeg-flicks the ball down the line for Weimann, and Afobe scores. Moral of the story - always obey Han-Napoleon Massengo. He Noahs best. The rest of them are playing football whilst Han is playing FIFA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_red Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 27/08/2019 at 10:43, Phileas Fogg said: Haven't heard that name in years! He was tipped to make the first team if I remember correctly. Same generation as Tristan Plummer. At Bath City now I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 27/08/2019 at 08:43, Phileas Fogg said: Haven't heard that name in years! He was tipped to make the first team if I remember correctly. Same generation as Tristan Plummer. Tristan joined Bitton at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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