Clutton Caveman Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I don't know if it is me but why does this guy keep getting game time when he wants away. If he was a Webster or something I could understand but a part from a 5 game burst a while ago he has been very average. Clearly suffers from having a pushy Dad as his agent but I would think this does not go down well with the rest of the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Didn’t he set up Rowes goal on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I don't know if it is me but why does this guy keep getting game time when he wants away. If he was a Webster or something I could understand but a part from a 5 game burst a while ago he has been very average. Clearly suffers from having a pushy Dad as his agent but I would think this does not go down well with the rest of the squad Yep , No impact, why did he come on Saturday ? Not like he stood up the defender before picking out Rowe with a beautiful measured cross on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 LJ does seem to want him to stay, seems to being treated differently to players in the past in similar circumstances that's for sure. Personally I wouldn't have him in the squad until he signs but no big loss if he goes in January. Never seemed the same player after he got his injury against Hull away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: I don't know if it is me but why does this guy keep getting game time when he wants away. If he was a Webster or something I could understand but a part from a 5 game burst a while ago he has been very average. Clearly suffers from having a pushy Dad as his agent but I would think this does not go down well with the rest of the squad Apparently CoD is unhappy that he’s not getting enough game time and that’s why he’s not signing a new deal. No doubt he wants to prolong his Ireland career and to do that he needs game time. Add to that a pushy father and you have an uneasy situation. Imv it would better for all involved for him to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Apparently CoD is unhappy that he’s not getting enough game time and that’s why he’s not signing a new deal. No doubt he wants to prolong his Ireland career and to do that he needs game time. Add to that a pushy father and you have an uneasy situation. Imv it would better for all involved for him to move on. “Apparently”..? What’s that supposed to mean..? I’ve certainly not seen that quoted on the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Until his contract runs out he's a City player. Play him if he deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: “Apparently”..? What’s that supposed to mean..? I read it on here - that’s why I used ‘apparently’. I have no idea if that’s correct or not.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Robbored said: I read it on here - that’s why I used ‘apparently’. I have no idea if that’s correct or not.......... Your hypocrisy is hilarious..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Actually, I think he wants to stay as he likes it here. The problem is his advisors and I think the time will come when HE has to put his foot down. I think he's seeing how the season pans out for the club. I think both party's have a lot to offer each other. I dare say the contract talk will rear its head again when the next window opens. I think he's a terrific player and I really hope he commits to the contract offer and knuckles down to concentrating on improving his game still further. I think LJ's coaching will make him an even better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 It's a difficult situation but I think LJ is handling it really well, and deserves credit for it. If he throws his toys out of the pram and refuses to play O'Dowda then he's wasting wages and a decent championship player, not to mention potentially making himself look like a bit of a ***** to anyone that likes O'Dowda. He's said that he wants O'Dowda to stay, thinks it's the best place for him to further his career somewhere that "he's loved" and "nurtured" and loads of other Johnson-isms. I get why O'Dowda might not be desperate to stay though. In the 3 years we've had him we've never really given him a proper run in the team for whatever reason and if I were in the same position I'd be frustrated too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Robbored said: Apparently CoD is unhappy that he’s not getting enough game time and that’s why he’s not signing a new deal. No doubt he wants to prolong his Ireland career and to do that he needs game time. Add to that a pushy father and you have an uneasy situation. Imv it would better for all involved for him to move on. Imv it would be better for all involved if he signed the contract and cemented a place in the 1st team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNSnse Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: Clearly suffers from having a pushy Dad as his agent but I would think this does not go down well with the rest of the squad 18 minutes ago, Robbored said: Apparently CoD is unhappy that he’s not getting enough game time and that’s why he’s not signing a new deal. 5 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: “Apparently”..? What’s that supposed to mean..? 6 minutes ago, Badger08 said: Genuine question. Do we genuinely know that his Dad is having any influence, or is this all hearsay thats now been taken as fact? I've seen loads of people making up their own narratives regarding COD. Because of the situation, people are analysing way too closely. He set up our equalising goal on Sat, but apparently he doesn't care and isn't putting in effort. I get being in the dark and trying to read between the lines of what's happening, but people straight-up invent opinions that COD has, when we don't know at all what he thinks about any of it -- and then pass it around as fact. Add in the stuff about his dad, teammates... So much imagination. Why don't people just write a piece of fanfiction, call it what it is, and be done with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I was watching him in the warm ups, before the game and particularly at half time. No sign he wasn’t part of the squad. At the end of the game he appeared to be discussing movement and positioning with Semenyo, again not the act of a disinterested player. Whatever is going on, LJ clearly trusts him and the squad don’t seem bothered, you would imagine they know more about it than we do. I don’t know why he is holding out on the contract, but it clearly seems to be a different problem to previous players. Finally, I thought he played well when he came on, he looked like he had fully embraced the wingback role, which had been my only reservation up until Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I struggle with COD. I don’t know his best position to be honest, and he is streaky. He clearly has ability - he can score a worldie of a goal in the Norwich game last year, and next game be utter dog s**t and fail to make a 5 yard pass. Doesn’t work hard enough as well. He is nowhere near consistent enough to warrant a regular place in the first XI IMHO. If someone offered >6 million I’d take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malvern Red Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I think there’s a great opportunity now there’s a break to mould him into the Dasilva role at least up to the next window after which Dasilva will return and COD may leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 He certainly didn`t look disinterested on Saturday - it took him a minute or two to get up to speed and he let one of theirs go in that time but after that he was fine. Tommy Rowe was straight over to him after he scored too IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said: I struggle with COD. I don’t know his best position to be honest, and he is streaky. He clearly has ability - he can score a worldie of a goal in the Norwich game last year, and next game be utter dog s**t and fail to make a 5 yard pass. Doesn’t work hard enough as well. He is nowhere near consistent enough to warrant a regular place in the first XI IMHO. If someone offered >6 million I’d take it I think he’s a player that performs better when he’s afforded space and can get himself running with the ball. In a tight midfield I don’t think he’s at his best. He can get you up the pitch with his running with the ball. Is he the finished article? No way. Could he become a key player here? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcnick Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Red Right Hand said: Rowe was straight over to him after he scored too IIRC. A cod roe combination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Thought he was very comfortable at left back with no real support with the narrow midfield. Boro started targetting the other side once that change was made. Set up the goal too. He is our player, why not play him. It got us a point which we didn't look like getting. Well done Callum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Well we are definitely going to have to be on our guard down the left side against Stoke, as 42% of their play comes down that side and then into the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brooko Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said: I don't know if it is me but why does this guy keep getting game time when he wants away. If he was a Webster or something I could understand but a part from a 5 game burst a while ago he has been very average. Clearly suffers from having a pushy Dad as his agent but I would think this does not go down well with the rest of the squad caveman, I think you need to check your facts. His agent is from Key Sports - who also work with Vardy, Walcott, Mings and also Marlon Pack. I guess they know what they are doing. It’s fairly obvious that Callum is very popular about the club and LJ has gone on record saying what a great fella he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 hours ago, spudski said: Well we are definitely going to have to be on our guard down the left side against Stoke, as 42% of their play comes down that side and then into the middle. How’s that working out for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Shock bloody horror - footballer is hesitant to tie himself to a club that rarely plays him!! Totally understandable and respectable. No need to Express outrage or to slag him off or bring his father into it. Would you prefer he be happy in the stands stealing a wage like Gareth Bale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 17 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think he’s a player that performs better when he’s afforded space and can get himself running with the ball. In a tight midfield I don’t think he’s at his best. He can get you up the pitch with his running with the ball. Is he the finished article? No way. Could he become a key player here? Yes I still believe this lad is real quality , a very athletic & capable ball carrier with the quality to provide end product and IMHO ideal for the modern game The irony Dave is I see him being at his most effective in a pacy counter attacking side that moves the ball quickly ...... ........Exactly the sort of side we are morphing into ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Shock bloody horror - footballer is hesitant to tie himself to a club that rarely plays him!! Totally understandable and respectable. No need to Express outrage or to slag him off or bring his father into it. Would you prefer he be happy in the stands stealing a wage like Gareth Bale? To be fair he’s only stopped being played since he asked for a certain wage, we agreed and then he didn’t sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Selred said: To be fair he’s only stopped being played since he asked for a certain wage, we agreed and then he didn’t sign. That’s not true Selred He's never been a sustained favoured pick , like some , many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 14 hours ago, spudski said: Well we are definitely going to have to be on our guard down the left side against Stoke, as 42% of their play comes down that side and then into the middle. I’m sure the clubs analysts have fully briefed LJ on that and every other stat Spudski. We have to remind ourselves that LJ is an impressive manager/Head Coach. He certainly knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That’s not true Selred He's never been a sustained favoured pick , like some , many Bob, it’s true that CoD was offered a newcdeal, he initially agreed and then changed his mind and turned down, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robbored said: Bob, it’s true that CoD was offered a newcdeal, he initially agreed and then changed his mind and turned down, Really ? Well Thats news If you bother to read for once , the point is he was never a sustained pick at any point in his time here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Brooko said: caveman, I think you need to check your facts. His agent is from Key Sports - who also work with Vardy, Walcott, Mings and also Marlon Pack. I guess they know what they are doing. It’s fairly obvious that Callum is very popular about the club and LJ has gone on record saying what a great fella he is. out of interest, are you related to O'Dowda or a close friend of his? Most of your post's on here have been responding to threads/posts about him. Very similar fashion to the likes of Benni with Magnússon & then GaryCPOs with Jonny Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Selred said: To be fair he’s only stopped being played since he asked for a certain wage, we agreed and then he didn’t sign. 24 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: That’s not true Selred He's never been a sustained favoured pick , like some , many He hit one really good spell of form where he looked as though he was going to be an important member of the team. Then he got injured before he had had a long run. He's not managed a run since then, not really deserved it TBH. He is a good player, and disciplined too, but just hasn't forced his way into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 We see him , on match days , that he warms up by himself. He kicks the ball to one of the staff, and not warm up with the team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Robbored said: I’m sure the clubs analysts have fully briefed LJ on that and every other stat Spudski. We have to remind ourselves that LJ is an impressive manager/Head Coach. He certainly knows his stuff. Oh for sure Robbo...was just putting it out there, for those who might be interested. Like others, I look at how the opposition play, their strengths and weaknesses, how they set up etc. I then look at who we have available and think who I'd play, and how, against them. I know it's fruitless as we don't know what goes on in training and behind the scenes...however based on what we see match day, it can be fun to do. Tbh... Judging people on matchday imo is very worthwhile. What players show in training often doesn't transpire on matchday. Take last game as an example. LJ implied post game that we didn't play how he had coached that week. Way too open. Obviously expecting certain players to have been more organised as he put it. Yet as a fan...and seeing who he put out in the starting line up, the game we witnessed was exactly as I'd expected it to be, based on players performances in previous games. Way too open and end to end. It's a catch 22 sometimes as a coach. You hope you can trust certain players to do the job you see them do in training on matchday. Often that doesn't happen. It'll be interesting to see who we play against Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: He hit one really good spell of form where he looked as though he was going to be an important member of the team. Then he got injured before he had had a long run. He's not managed a run since then, not really deserved it TBH. He is a good player, and disciplined too, but just hasn't forced his way into the team. I’d agree Unsure what the issue is , but it appears that COD thinks he should have had more games than LJ does I would agree that since injury forced him out he’s not knocked the door down claiming a place, Im still not sure that he’s ever felt a regular pick , but possibly sees it himself , as what he can do as opposed to what he’s done Its a shame as , if we could get him focused there’s a fine player there , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: I’d agree Unsure what the issue is , but it appears that COD thinks he should have had more games than LJ does I would agree that since injury forced him out he’s not knocked the door down claiming a place, Im still not sure that he’s ever felt a regular pick , but possibly sees it himself , as what he can do as opposed to what he’s done Its a shame as , if we could get him focused there’s a fine player there , I can understand his confusion, first choice, or regular pick for your national side and can't command a place for your club. Can also see LJ's quandary , the need for results and a player that won't commit his future to the club, why play him ahead of players that will? I really think if he signed. new contract he would get more game time, he would then be able to get some consistent form and be a real asset . Sadly I see him running his contract down and going in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 LJ, fully qualified Championship level head coach, doesn’t think COD earns a place in the team week in, week out. COD refuses to sign a new contract and seeks a move. No other fully qualified Championship Head coach/manager sees fit to make a bit for him. I think that says a lot, personally. COD DOES have talent and ability, but I don’t think he’s as good as he seems to think he is himself. I’d like him to sort it out and sign, but if it doesn’t resolve itself, then I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I said even in the midst of his contract dispute that I want him to stay. He is a quality player at this level. With the position City are in at the moment, I'd be gobsmacked if he doesn't want to stay with the club. If he is being paid by City, then he should still be ready and able to play and do a job, which he did on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, 1960maaan said: I can understand his confusion, first choice, or regular pick for your national side and can't command a place for your club. Can also see LJ's quandary , the need for results and a player that won't commit his future to the club, why play him ahead of players that will? I really think if he signed. new contract he would get more game time, he would then be able to get some consistent form and be a real asset . Sadly I see him running his contract down and going in the summer. I think this is half the problem. His international call ups. He needs to realise that I’d probably get game time for ROI, if I made up some long lost family connection. It’s hardly (not his fault) difficult to get Ireland caps. They have very few genuine international quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK0wnag3 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 COD won’t sign a new deal because he isn’t getting any game time. LJ won’t give him any game time because he won’t sign a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 20 hours ago, Robbored said: Apparently CoD is unhappy that he’s not getting enough game time and that’s why he’s not signing a new deal. No doubt he wants to prolong his Ireland career and to do that he needs game time. Add to that a pushy father and you have an uneasy situation. Imv it would better for all involved for him to move on. This isnt on the city website and is pure speculation. HOW DARE YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, UK0wnag3 said: COD won’t sign a new deal because he isn’t getting any game time. LJ won’t give him any game time because he won’t sign a new deal. This is probably close to the truth, and now COD can probably see a free move in the summer for decent wages . Not sure ,as it's gone on so long, he's going to commit any time soon. The club can almost see the millions of £££'s circling the plug hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brooko Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Carey 6 said: out of interest, are you related to O'Dowda or a close friend of his? Most of your post's on here have been responding to threads/posts about him. Very similar fashion to the likes of Benni with Magnússon & then GaryCPOs with Jonny Smith. Not remotely - just like to bring balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Really ? Well Thats news If you bother to read for once , the point is he was never a sustained pick at any point in his time here I’d argue he has been but his injuries have played a massive part in his lack of minutes. Now he has this contract situation which I am positive is affecting his minutes. 1st season - making a division jump made 34 appearances in the league with over 1800 minutes which is the equivalent to over twenty 90 min matches 2nd season - 24 appearances 14 starts but missed 21 games with ankle surgery. So won the starting job, injured and worked back into a starter 3rd season - 31 appearances and missed 10 due to injury. 19 starts and a regular starter before the injury So yea think his minutes is down to his injuries not particularly LJ. He is a much more regular starter than Eliasson and I reckon Elisson would get the popular vote on here. I think LJ rates Callum very highly but frustrated with this contract situation(much of it on CODs part) and frustrated he can’t count on him for seemingly more than 10 starts at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 02/09/2019 at 13:54, NNSnse said: I've seen loads of people making up their own narratives regarding COD. Because of the situation, people are analysing way too closely. He set up our equalising goal on Sat, but apparently he doesn't care and isn't putting in effort. I get being in the dark and trying to read between the lines of what's happening, but people straight-up invent opinions that COD has, when we don't know at all what he thinks about any of it -- and then pass it around as fact. Add in the stuff about his dad, teammates... So much imagination. Why don't people just write a piece of fanfiction, call it what it is, and be done with it? Amusingly, some of the worst flights of fancy written on this forum about him, occur on this thread, after this post...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 3, 2019 Admin Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Mad Cyril said: Shock bloody horror - footballer is hesitant to tie himself to a club that rarely plays him!! Totally understandable and respectable. No need to Express outrage or to slag him off or bring his father into it. Would you prefer he be happy in the stands stealing a wage like Gareth Bale? Looking on as an outsider, I wonder if the connection with O'Neil being at Forest last season turned his head in any way last season? He's perfectly within his rights to not sign a contract, and I certainly have no problem with him being picked on merit for us as he is still honoring his contract. Whether he stays or not who is to know, I'm not sure what relevance his dad has in all of this. I am assuming he is not his agent, just a parent looking out for his son? PS Bale played, scored twice and then got sent off at the weekend for Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I was saying about 5 minutes before we conceded that Kasey needed to come off for him. No slight on KP, he must have been bloody knackered, but I think with CO'D on the pitch we don't concede the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNSnse Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Porto Red said: Amusingly, some of the worst flights of fancy written on this forum about him, occur on this thread, after this post...! Add some dialogue and a three-act structure and it might pass as entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 If I were him I would have thought signing last season was a no go, how many times was he not selected when a consistent non performer was (I am not the first to suggest this)? He obviously has international ambitions, to date hampered by fitness and not playing in the first team, hopefully that will change and we will see the best of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 12 hours ago, UK0wnag3 said: COD won’t sign a new deal because he isn’t getting any game time. LJ won’t give him any game time because he won’t sign a new deal. I eat because im unhappy, but im unhappy because i eat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 perhaps hes just waiting for the Brexit outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 On 03/09/2019 at 22:25, redsquirrel said: perhaps hes just waiting for the Brexit outcome Is he switching to defence? The Irish backstop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: I haven't got a Scooby........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I haven't got a Scooby........... But, Bless Him. Fridays just wouldn't be the same without him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.