AshtonGreat Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Our defence and midfield are abysmal. Conceding two goals practically every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound Lane Red Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 That made for some poor viewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: Serious question for you and everyone else saying Johnson out, why didn’t you post this this time last week? Because we hoped that the tide had turned. It hadn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirlieBeachRed Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, westonred said: 87 mins gone 1 shot on target this isn't good enough Especially considering we were chssing a game from the first minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Clueless display second half, even then if Fammy reacts 2 seconds earlier to Hunt's cross and we go 1-1 who knows how it might have ended. As others have said LJ has no excuses this season, given the funding he has had compared to others vying for a play-off space. Either he gets us into top 6 this season or he should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 The only question that's needs an honest answer, and should be the measure of any coach: Is Johnson getting the most out of the players he has available? I say he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: Our defence and midfield are abysmal. Conceding two goals practically every game. Few seem to have noticed, LJ included. Apparently the answer is a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 I wonder what buzz words, cohesion identity etc we will get this week in the excuse interview?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Our defence and midfield are abysmal. Conceding two goals practically every game. Our midfield is quite lightweight compared to a lot of teams. No destroyer to boss it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Because we hoped that the tide had turned. It hadn’t. The tide that saw us 4th after that game? Football fans are a fickle bunch, 5 years ago we were dreaming of being top 10 in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: Our defence and midfield are abysmal. Conceding two goals practically every game. Our defence is utterly reliant on the performances of our deeper central midfielders. If they don't screen the defence to the very best of their ability then almost any team finds it easy to carve us open and take pot shots at goal. Bentley has been playing well; compared to the keepers we've had in the past few years he's very good, but in the context of the division he is no more than a slightly above average keeper. He'll pull of the odd worldie save as will most, but if you let a team get 7 shots on target he isn't going to save more than 4 or 5 on an average day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, JBFC II said: The tide that saw us 4th after that game? Football fans are a fickle bunch, 5 years ago we were dreaming of being top 10 in the championship But football is entertainment. I’d rather be 12th and attempt to play good football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, paul_fox said: Our midfield is quite lightweight compared to a lot of teams. No destroyer to boss it Exactly. Massengo not ready to be a regular starter IMO, and Nagy rubbish two games running. Disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Yeah and they weren't charging £30 a ticket then. Last two games were "Black Friday specials' at a tenner a pop... Didn't expect the performances were gonna reflect the ticket price tbh… ffs Rip Off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: But football is entertainment. I’d rather be 12th and attempt to play good football. I'm inclined to agree but I suspect we are in a small minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, paul_fox said: Our midfield is quite lightweight compared to a lot of teams. No destroyer to boss it No nasty barsteward in there at all that puts a bit of fear into opponents. Far too easy to play against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 I previously wrote that ‘ grit and determination ‘ were the key factors to getting points over the Christmas period . Blackburn came to us without their star man , having played a day after us and that for twenty minutes with ten men so they could have been forgiven for not being at the races. Despite the shock of the early goal we still didn’t show nearly enough of what’s needed to maintain a top six challenge. We had two good chances to score but we were pretty much anonymous as an attacking force other than that . We lacked cohesion in the final third and midfield was too lightweight. NO MORE EXCUSES CITY. LJ the ball is very firmly in your court . I want to see our players giving it straight back to the aggressive opponents and winning the individual battles. I hate to say it but we still seem to have a soft underbelly and we won’t win anything unless we toughen up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Serious question for you and everyone else saying Johnson out, why didn’t you post this this time last week? ...well I've been saying it for about 18 months.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, WhistleHappy said: Last two games were "Black Friday specials' at a tenner a pop... Didn't expect the performances were gonna reflect the ticket price tbh… ffs Rip Off. If I was Lansdown I would be ******* fuming because, with tickets available for a tenner, these two games would've brought in people who don't normally go to Ashton Gate. It was a massive opportunity to attract some new fans, and both games were absolute pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 They say our love won't pay the rent Groundhog Day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Exactly. Massengo not ready to be a regular starter IMO, and Nagy rubbish two games running. Disappointing Disagree re: Massengo, agree re: Nagy. Thing is both those two have looked absolute quality before. However, Korey needs to start in CM next game, l'd leave Nagy out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: If I was Lansdown I would be ******* fuming because, with tickets available for a tenner, these two games would've brought in people who don't normally go to Ashton Gate. It was a massive opportunity to attract some new fans, and both games were absolute pony. I don't think Lansdown is that emotional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Brace yourselves for an OTIB mega-meltdown. Of course there is no doubt we’ve had a bitterly disappointing week with two home defeats and two poor, frustrating performances. Personally, I would now like LJ to be more honest and take a leaf out of Chis Wilder’s book and instead of his usual comments about we dust ourselves off and fight again he says it like it is.......any of the following would suit: (1) Two poor home performances (2) Out thought and out played on both occasions (3) As the manager I take responsibility for that (4) As players they also need to take responsibility too, both as individuals and as a team (5) Being a fan of BCFC is enormously frustrating, you saw us play well against Huddersfield and Fulham and then had to endure two lack lustre home performance, in which we were very much second best. I am sorry (6) Our last two games have blatantly highlighted our limitations, I am aware of what we need to do to address these shortcomings and I will act decisively so that the problems are rectified I am certainly not an LJ hater but just for once can he please say it like it is without any deflection....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, billywedlock said: How can we go from the Fulham game, for me our best performance in 2 years, to the Milwall and Blackburn rubbish. I dislike watching City at home, and have dome for 2 years, it is turgid boring and you know it is true as the crowd is dead. There is no shape, no energy, no plan, nothing. We can still point to progress, well that has more to do with the wage bill rather than any coaching excellence. We still are in a great place for the play offs of course, but at seasons end, if the top 6 is not made, it really must be time to give someone else , with greater clarity of purpose a go. It's not LJ out for now, play offs are on, but equally by now we should after 60 players have an identity , a purpose , cohesion . Not just pull one good game out of the hat, and play at home like a group of strangers. He looks out of ideas to me and more and more like O'Driscol Mk 2. In fact, that is the role LJ should have, a number 2 . Milwall and Blackburn are not parachute payments t clubs, have wage bills less than ours, so money is not the issue, the application of our resources is. A big rethink needed at BCFC this week, as two awful performances in a row is not to be ignored and the season will fall away if they cannot find rapid solutions. Bang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Serious question for you and everyone else saying Johnson out, why didn’t you post this this time last week? I did ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: ...well I've been saying it for about 18 months.... Well, you have a personal vendetta against him and have had since the beginning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Given it a bit more thought. I'd let Johnson go now and look to get Houghton in. Gives him the opportunity to look into the market come January, and to understand the squad from now until end of season to make the changes he feels would be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, Johnr1986 said: I did ! So you came on here straight after Fulham and said Johnson has to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, JBFC II said: Well, you have a personal vendetta against him and have had since the beginning... I just don't rate the bloke. To be fair he has done a decent job but we have absolutely stagnated the last 2 and a bit years under him and we are at a point where we completely void of a plan It's time for him to leave. He won't as he is completely untouchable....but this club will never become a top 6 club with him in charge. Absolutely no chance . You can all slate me and say I have a vendetta, but I'm right...and deep down you all know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Disagree re: Massengo, agree re: Nagy. Thing is both those two have looked absolute quality before. However, Korey needs to start in CM next game, l'd leave Nagy out. Massengo was brushed aside like he wasn't there for the second goal though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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