SouthStand Sandwich Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 .... What the hell? So, the latest : - tommy rowe out for 2 months - chris martin hamstring injury 1 month - adulakan out for the season you just couldn't make this stuff up... independent review needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: .... What the hell? So, the latest : - tommy rowe out for 2 months - chris martin hamstring injury 1 month - adulakan out for the season you just couldn't make this stuff up... independent review needed. Something weird is going on you can't have that many injuries for it to be coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Adelukan had a sore back 4 days ago. **** me. That’s two lads who were going for promotions on their loans that have come back and have had season ending injuries in training with us after weeks of being back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Good grief.......................more conspiracy theories..........you couldn’t make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 And this is why I always switch off whenever anyone says " when we get our injured players back........" for every one that comes back, two others go out. This week Paterson back, Martin and Rowe out. Last week Mawson back, Adelekun and Pring out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J.Thribb Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: independent review needed. By who? The British Medical Council? The gas physio? Paul McKenna?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Something isn’t right to have quite so many training ground injuries. And it’s not like it’s a completely new phenomenon as Afobe’s injury last season wasn’t picked up in a competitive match but during training. Maybe Failand is cursed?! Or more likely our training and fitness regimes are seriously flawed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted February 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Basil Fawlty said: By who? The British Medical Council? The gas physio? Paul McKenna?? Gas physios a good shout... Don't think they've got 18 injured players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.J.Thribb Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Something isn’t right to have quite so many training ground injuries. And it’s not like it’s a completely new phenomenon as Afobe’s injury last season wasn’t picked up in a competitive match but during training. Maybe Failand is cursed?! Or more likely our training and fitness regimes are seriously flawed... Afobe’s was an utter fluke, landed heavily on his leg (or turned) and did most of his knee ligaments in one swoop (which means Failand is cursed ) 3 minutes ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: Gas physios a good shout... Don't think they've got 18 injured players? Or maybe you ought to go up and take the sessions? I’m sure you’ll have the methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, Robbored said: Good grief.......................more conspiracy theories..........you couldn’t make it up. You say conspiracy theories but we have had far more injuries than any other club. Last week Adekulan had a sore back, which is actually broken. That should of been diagnosed. We had Rowe play against Derby when he then got substituted after 20 mins. Now out for months. There is an issue with our medical team, be it diagnosing issues, and/or conditioning players. With the reports from the highly respected The Athletic about Williams, there is an issue I have no doubts about. Then you add the further issue of Mark Ashton not strengthen in crucial positions and instead consistently recruiting players with dubious injury records it's not a surprise to see we have a team of burnt out and highly injury prone players. The sooner we change the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Good grief.......................more conspiracy theories..........you couldn’t make it up. If it were one or two injuries then I'd agree with you, But almost every player has had muscle injury at some point this season, they can't all be bad luck, That suggests something wrong with the training methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Robbored said: Good grief.......................more conspiracy theories..........you couldn’t make it up. If this was a normal business and one key area was consistently failing then there’d be a review. Shouldn’t be any different. Because of the nature of injuries it’s easy to write it off as a ‘conspiracy’ but somewhere along the line there’s clearly something not functioning as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Selred said: Last week Adekulan had a sore back, which is actually broken. That should of been diagnosed. Hak’s Cracked His Back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 The Club have said they have reviewed it...and guess what? Because they are marking their own homework they passed...and then we get more of the same injuries. The answer is staring them in the face. Appoint a Director of Football. Said it dozens of times before. It’s frightening that a distant onlooker can see that many aspects of the Club’s business are flawed or under-performing, yet a chap who is pumping tens of millions into the Club per year is blind to structural problems of that enterprise. We are going nowhere under Ashton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 I’ve only just realised that we only had 8 on the bench last night. So presume that means Lansbury was also injured? Otherwise, why not fill the bench? Has anything been said by the club on this? Or are we into more deception?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Maybe we should get a new training ground:) In all seriousnessness. ..sometimes you can be unlucky (and maybe some of it is) but there have been too many in the past couple of seasons for it to be just bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: Hak’s Cracked His Back? Quack lacks knack, faces sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Monkeh said: If it were one or two injuries then I'd agree with you, But almost every player has had muscle injury at some point this season, they can't all be bad luck, That suggests something wrong with the training methods I think what's most notable to me is how many of those muscle injuries end up meaning long absences. It does suggest that minor niggles aren't being managed properly leading them to become far more serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 The Rowe injury is the most concerning of the whole lot for me. He clearly wasn’t fit to play, yet still played probably because he declared himself fit. The decision should have been taken out of his hands. There is no excuse for it and as he’s out of contract at the end of the season it could have major implications for his future career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, RedRock said: The Club have said they have reviewed it...and guess what? Because they are marking their own homework they passed...and then we get more of the same injuries. The answer is staring them in the face. Appoint a Director of Football. Said it dozens of times before. It’s frightening that a distant onlooker can see that many aspects of the Club’s business are flawed or under-performing, yet a chap who is pumping tens of millions into the Club per year is blind to structural problems of that enterprise. We are going nowhere under Ashton. I director of football has no bearing on the medical side of things or training methods Medical would be the head physio and club doctor training would be the head coach and his coaching team Fir once this is nothing to do with ashton or not having a director of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 hours ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: .... What the hell? So, the latest : - tommy rowe out for 2 months - chris martin hamstring injury 1 month - adulakan out for the season you just couldn't make this stuff up... independent review needed. The training is pretty much non-existent due to the quick turnaround in the games, this is what is creating the injuries. Just look at Liverpool’s defence. From people that are working on the training facilities, the players are literally in for 2 hrs a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Robbored said: Good grief.......................more conspiracy theories..........you couldn’t make it up. I have to say it's reached the point where you are literally burying your head in the sand. I really think that. It's not about conspiracy theories, its about the following: We had a clear mis-diagnosis of injury with Paterson We had the non-diagnosis of a season ender with Adelakun We had rehabilitation issues with one of our new signings which he has gone to the media about and which was confirmed in interview by the Manager We had a player who CLEARLY wasn't remotely fit to play on Saturday who is now out for months Add in the fact that we never pick up 2-3 week hamstring injuries and strains, no every single injury we get is a rupture/tear or whatever and is literally months rather than weeks out and even you must accept that some sort of root and branch investigation is in order? In fact that's another thing that Dean Holden has confirmed in interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Selred said: You say conspiracy theories but we have had far more injuries than any other club. Last week Adekulan had a sore back, which is actually broken. That should of been diagnosed. We had Rowe play against Derby when he then got substituted after 20 mins. Now out for months. There is an issue with our medical team, be it diagnosing issues, and/or conditioning players. With the reports from the highly respected The Athletic about Williams, there is an issue I have no doubts about. Then you add the further issue of Mark Ashton not strengthen in crucial positions and instead consistently recruiting players with dubious injury records it's not a surprise to see we have a team of burnt out and highly injury prone players. The sooner we change the better. I was amazed Rowe started against Derby with the way he went off against Huddersfield. Definitely something weird going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Robbored said: Good grief.......................more conspiracy theories..........you couldn’t make it up. Conspiracy Theories - you literally can make them. *Correct use of Literally btw to keep pedants corner happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, Harry said: Quack lacks knack, faces sack “Let’s be clear - we’re on the right track” States oily lying fack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, Bobbie said: The Rowe injury is the most concerning of the whole lot for me. He clearly wasn’t fit to play, yet still played probably because he declared himself fit. The decision should have been taken out of his hands. There is no excuse for it and as he’s out of contract at the end of the season it could have major implications for his future career. I think it’s reasonable to say that Rowes played his last game for us. In his 30’s, playing at the highest level he has so no progression ceiling and although good record of availability to date, now has serious injury when coming out of contract. Essentially we’re talking a 32 year old back up player with an injury. I just can’t see that being the kind of renewal you’d give. (BTW this isn’t slating TR - it’s just the likely reality now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: We had a clear mis-diagnosis of injury with Paterson We had the non-diagnosis of a season ender with Adelakun What evidence do you have to support those claims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 Maybe instead of training they've been building the training ground in flip flops and without a hard hat and hi-viz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry said: Quack lacks knack, faces sack 28 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: “Let’s be clear - we’re on the right track” States oily lying fack OTIB does Dr. Seuss, moving up a level from the tired fish puns. And people criticise this plaice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Red Alert said: Conspiracy Theories - you literally can make them. *Correct use of Literally btw to keep pedants corner happy. Step away from the troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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