Sir Geoff Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 58 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Looking forward to how the smarmy one justifies that when he appears as the guest interviewe on POF later this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: The TWTD posse will be reading!! Gassan Ahadme gone to Cambridge United on loan for the season. I may be well wide of the mark, but this is a classic example of signing someone on a 3-year deal on too much money, who you can’t move on permanently because nobody will take on his contract. Fee in 6-figures too. On the flipside, Jack Taylor a good signing for them on paper, fits their style. Is there a chance that their finances are actually all in good order? Not questioning your good work, it's just intriguing that he's going on that podcast, (presumably Kieran Maguire?), and he knows his stuff doesn't he. Sounds like he could be onto a hiding if he tries BS'ing his way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, nebristolred said: Is there a chance that their finances are actually all in good order? Not questioning your good work, it's just intriguing that he's going on that podcast, (presumably Kieran Maguire?), and he knows his stuff doesn't he. Sounds like he could be onto a hiding if he tries BS'ing his way through. I haven’t questioned their finances!!! I have said that some of their fans are poorly informed if they think their owners can invest their way out of the Championship like the SCMP rules allow in Lg1 (and Lg2). P&S in the Championship is a different beast though. I posted similar on their forum. I actually think they have headroom to spend, just not as much as they think. Even Benjamin Bloom asked KM / POF if they could front-load their costs this season for the 3-year cycle, but KM advised (like I did on their forum) that the first 3-year cycle includes 21/22 (£12m loss), 22/23 (similar according to many Ipswich fans who heard Ashton speak as their forum)…leaving 23/24. Who knows what the loss will be. Pros: match day revenue increases, they’ll sell out nigh on most weeks probably. commercial revenues increased tv money up Cons: wage bill getting bigger and bigger amortisation getting bigger and bigger Squad getting bigger and bigger and having to subsidise wages by loaning out fringe players on wages too high to sell. It’s a bit like us having to loan Taylor Moore out, because nobody could afford to buy him…so he costs you dead amortisation and a portion of his wages. What loss amount that equates to I don’t know. If they buy sensibly like your Jack Taylor type signing, they’ll be fine. If they start spending £4s and £5s millions on players like Simms, then they are really playing a “we need to go straight up” game. To clarify, only thing I’m calling out as BS is his claim of “net neutral” for a season that hasn’t started yet, let alone finished. I can go into more detail if need be. Edited June 27, 2023 by Davefevs 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I haven’t questioned their finances!!! Apologies a poor choice of wording on my part, I didn't mean you'd suggested any irregularity. Just intrigued to see if KM is likely to push him on a risky strategy of sorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 minute ago, nebristolred said: Apologies a poor choice of wording on my part, I didn't mean you'd suggested any irregularity. Just intrigued to see if KM is likely to push him on a risky strategy of sorts. It will be an interesting listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 There’s finances won’t be helped by Impairment either: https://twitter.com/ipswichtown/status/1674009754488934401?s=46&t=2lwAuEEyCQZFuWYNTbSjeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 He's literally everywhere, unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 That’s the problem with throwing as much shit as you can at a wall. It doesn’t all stick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Talk of ITFC increasing their bid to £6m (4+2 adds ons) for Ellis Simms. Where’s the money coming from or is it just Ashtonomics? (i.e. trouble down the road for FFP)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: That’s the problem with throwing as much shit as you can at a wall. It doesn’t all stick: That will be blamed on Paul Cook no doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, Selred said: He's literally everywhere, unbelievable. He'll claim to have built the website soon enough. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, chinapig said: He'll claim to have built the website soon enough. The website is dynamic, cutting edge, will give Ipswich a clear USP in the digital space. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, Selred said: He's literally everywhere, unbelievable. He's here, he's there, he's ev'ry *****n where, Swiss Tony, Swiss Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: That will be blamed on Paul Cook no doubt To quote MA at the time, from one of his early interviews: ”Mike (O’Leary) and I said - we’ve got to get Rakeem here” Chairman and CEO driving who to sign, not Cook. They knew Harper from their time at West Brom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 20 hours ago, nebristolred said: Apologies a poor choice of wording on my part, I didn't mean you'd suggested any irregularity. Just intrigued to see if KM is likely to push him on a risky strategy of sorts. KD does the interviews although I suspect KM prepares the questions. I always find them a bit nicey, nice with interviews. The Huw Jenkins one being an example. He may have been the Messiah at the start of Swansea's run but he brought the house down by inviting American investment then appointing himself CEO. In which role he bought a crocked Bony and gave him £100,000 per week wages, signed quite a few duds for a lot of money (£14 million Sam Clucas), appointed a dismal American manager etc, etc. My point being that there were no awkward questions about things that had gone wrong only questions about the good stuff. Personally expecting a bit of a love in with smarmy Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, chinapig said: He'll claim to have built the website soon enough. He invented the internet . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 50 minutes ago, Davefevs said: They knew Harper from their time at West Brom. Cosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Warwickshire Red said: Talk of ITFC increasing their bid to £6m (4+2 adds ons) for Ellis Simms. Where’s the money coming from or is it just Ashtonomics? (i.e. trouble down the road for FFP)? Umm, can only have a rough guess here but maybe the yank owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Selred said: He's literally everywhere, unbelievable. In this case its a plebsite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwickshire Red Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, frenchred said: Umm, can only have a rough guess here but maybe the yank owners? Yes get that and maybe not quite the right question. Was trying to say, without sufficient balancing income, looks like he’s starting to take Ipswich down a similar road we’ve been on to FFP issues. Potential worrying signs for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warwickshire Red said: Yes get that and maybe not quite the right question. Was trying to say, without sufficient balancing income, looks like he’s starting to take Ipswich down a similar road we’ve been on to FFP issues. Potential worrying signs for them. I'm not sure their fans have quite grasped how FFP is applied in the Championship. Whereas Ashton has he just doesn't care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Warwickshire Red said: Yes get that and maybe not quite the right question. Was trying to say, without sufficient balancing income, looks like he’s starting to take Ipswich down a similar road we’ve been on to FFP issues. Potential worrying signs for them. Ah ok mate, agree with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 I’m finding this obsession with MA a bit weird now to be honest. Is anyone else? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: I’m finding this obsession with MA a bit weird now to be honest. Is anyone else? No! 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: No! Haha, seriously though, I do find it odd. I know he’s (MA)a bit of a t*t, but what’s done is done. Let’s forgot about MA, it’s in the past. I feel we as a club are always looking backwards and it’s not healthy. Even our new Robin (splat) has a cricked neck looking behind him. We even keep looking backwards with our bloody retro kits. Let’s look forwards, look ahead and forget what happened before, it’s toxic IMO. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: That will be blamed on Paul Cook no doubt It’s Hakeeb Adelakun all over again. They’ll probably have a Liam Walsh type departure soon. Are the cracks starting to show? Tune in next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: Haha, seriously though, I do find it odd. I know he’s (MA)a bit of a t*t, but what’s done is done. Let’s forgot about MA, it’s in the past. I feel we as a club are always looking backwards and it’s not healthy. Even our new Robin (splat) has a cricked neck looking behind him. We even keep looking backwards with our bloody retro kits. Let’s look forwards, look ahead and forget what happened before, it’s toxic IMO. I've been re-watching the Fast Show on iPlayer recently. The show is in the past but Swiss Tony is still a funny character. Ashton similarly is always good for a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: In this case its a plebsite There's a plebiscite joke in here somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said: I’m finding this obsession with MA a bit weird now to be honest. Is anyone else? Yep it’s gone on too long now. I doubt other clubs he was with are this obsessed. Edited June 28, 2023 by Clevedon Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Selred said: He's literally everywhere, unbelievable. Clicking towards adversity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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