Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Updated to date, after I posted it on a match thread a couple of games ago..... Dean Holden (Numpty who should never have been appointed) P36, W16, L17 PPG 1.42. Nigel Pearson (the experienced manager that everyone wanted) P32, W7, L18, PPG 0.875 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Makes little difference who the manager is when the board are absolutely clueless. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 I didn’t want Pearson from the start but this isn’t time for “i told you so”. Point scoring etc and who to blame is pointless. Don’t want to sound like a cheerleader but we are bang in trouble and i think the fans could be huge to keeping us up. A few weeks away for internationals feels like it’s come at the perfect time. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Wiltshire robin said: Makes little difference who the manager is when the board are absolutely clueless. Bollocks..! He's the man who sends us out with no shape, no game plan & doesn't have a clue about our best starting 11, after 9 months! 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Wiltshire robin said: Makes little difference who the manager is when the board are absolutely clueless. Board has nothing to do with coaching and motivating players. The two things shouldn't be conflated as that would appear to be an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, GTFABM said: I didn’t want Pearson from the start but this isn’t time for “i told you so”. Point scoring etc and who to blame is pointless. Don’t want to sound like a cheerleader but we are bang in trouble and i think the fans could be huge to keeping us up. A few weeks away for internationals feels like it’s come at the perfect time. Who's point scoring....? I've just presented some cold hard facts. You make your own conclusions from them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Updated to date, after I posted it on a match thread a couple of games ago..... Dean Holden (Numpty who should never have been appointed) P36, W16, L17 PPG 1.42. Nigel Pearson (the experienced manager that everyone wanted) P32, W7, L18, PPG 0.875 Holden wasn’t the answer. I wouldn’t swap Pearson for Holden. That’s a weird comparison. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Bar BS3 said: Bollocks..! He's the man who sends us out with no shape, no game plan & doesn't have a clue about our best starting 11, after 9 months! :laugh: yes Pearson is underachieving and I’ve backed him from the start but now think we need a change. The main cause of the problems at this club is the lansdowns being totally out of there depth running a football club . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 To be fair, none of us would have had a team of people going through his work history with a fine tooth combe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: Makes little difference who the manager is when the board are absolutely clueless. Rubbish nobody wanted Holden because everyone thought he was part of the problem- everyone wanted Pearson because he was a name and I think up until today everyone was still clinging to the hope he would recreate his past glories. The numbers speak for themselves he is dreadful up against holdens stats. If we lose at home to Blackburn next up he has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Selred said: Holden wasn’t the answer. I wouldn’t swap Pearson for Holden. That’s a weird comparison. No, I agree - yet look at his stats compared to what Pearson has managed..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, VT05763 said: Board has nothing to do with coaching and motivating players. The two things shouldn't be conflated as that would appear to be an excuse. Your right but all this started with king Steve being totally oblivious to what is going on at the club and letting his mates just get on with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, MC RISK77 said: Rubbish nobody wanted Holden because everyone thought he was part of the problem- everyone wanted Pearson because he was a name and I think up until today everyone was still clinging to the hope he would recreate his past glories. The numbers speak for themselves he is dreadful up against holdens stats. If we lose at home to Blackburn next up he has to go Agreed but lansdowns been in charge for 20+ years now and spent more than most but we are still heading back to league one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Wiltshire robin said: yes Pearson is underachieving and I’ve backed him from the start but now think we need a change. The main cause of the problems at this club is the lansdowns being totally out of there depth running a football club . I disagree, but respect your opinion. Without the Lansdowns, we'd be.... No better than Rovers...! They've built the club amazingly. But we need someone to take control of the footballing decisions & appointments. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Wiltshire robin said: Your right but all this started with king Steve being totally oblivious to what is going on at the club and letting his mates just get on with it Ashton appointed Pearson for example, is that what you mean ? Just now, Bar BS3 said: I disagree, but respect your opinion. Without the Lansdowns, we'd be.... No better than Rovers...! They've built the club amazingly. But we need someone to take control of the footballing decisions & appointments. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Bar BS3 said: I disagree, but respect your opinion. Without the Lansdowns, we'd be.... No better than Rovers...! Ok but that point can go both ways , just as likely we could of had some success just like Brighton , Stoke , Swansea , Cardiff ,Brentford and many more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Updated to date, after I posted it on a match thread a couple of games ago..... Dean Holden (Numpty who should never have been appointed) P36, W16, L17 PPG 1.42. Nigel Pearson (the experienced manager that everyone wanted) P32, W7, L18, PPG 0.875 Just out of interest, do you know what Johnson’s was? COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Good shout. The problem is what we have on the pitch for 90 minutes. It's like having Pep try to teach a lump of turd how to play football. Ain't going to happen. Time to get the shovel out and start again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Who's point scoring....? I've just presented some cold hard facts. You make your own conclusions from them. How does it look after both were in charge after pre season etc? I ignore Pearson’s record completely from last season cause in my opinion he was shafted with the injuries & contract situation of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: yes Pearson is underachieving and I’ve backed him from the start but now think we need a change. The main cause of the problems at this club is the lansdowns being totally out of there depth running a football club . SL is not picking the team or tactics, he has employed an experience manager to do that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Carey 6 said: How does it look after both were in charge after pre season etc? I ignore Pearson’s record completely from last season cause in my opinion he was shafted with the injuries & contract situation of many. So was Holden then surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 I don’t know why but I read the starting post as a jab at people who wanted him? It made logical sense for us to go for NP, he’s just fudged it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Carey 6 said: How does it look after both were in charge after pre season etc? I ignore Pearson’s record completely from last season cause in my opinion he was shafted with the injuries & contract situation of many. Well you just need to look at the league table, surely..?! Just now, Sturny said: I don’t know why but I read the starting post as a jab at people who wanted him? It made logical sense for us to go for NP, he’s just fudged it Just a factual comparison between our last 2 managers. Sorry if the facts feel like a dig..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 If your first action after yet another last min defeat is to start a point scoring thread, it’s a bit of a strange thing to do really. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted November 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Simon79 said: Just out of interest, do you know what Johnson’s was? COYR PPG 1.41 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Not up to it under Johnson. Not up to it under Holden. Not up to it under Pearson shouldn’t come as a surprise. Blame Johnson, Ashton, Holden, Pearson or Lansdown. I couldn’t care less. Henry Weston is my friend. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: SL is not picking the team or tactics, he has employed an experience manager to do that I agree that it’s probably time for Pearson to go (I’m somebody who really wanted him and backed until today) . It’s the decisions the board have made over the last few years that have us in this mess . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: Updated to date, after I posted it on a match thread a couple of games ago..... Dean Holden (Numpty who should never have been appointed) P36, W16, L17 PPG 1.42. Nigel Pearson (the experienced manager that everyone wanted) P32, W7, L18, PPG 0.875 You can’t blame anyone for wanting Pearson though can you, on paper it is/was the perfect appointment. Isn’t working out for whatever reason but i still stand by wanting him at the time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeloshea20@gmail Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Every time the club upload a 'Robins Uncut' on YouTube I see fitness exercises, sprinting and 5 aside type matches. At no point have I ever seen any actual coaching going on, defensive set pieces, defending corners, forwards running into channels etc etc. Just wondering if there is actually any coaching going on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Pearson isn't the answer. Neither was Holden. I was happy with Pearson, but was clearly unaware how tactically inept he is. He's as bad as I've seen. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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