Seating & how it could annoy some people.

[Davefevs]

59 minutes ago, Pieman said:

The club is split into 3 separate companies. BCFC, Ashton Gate Stadium & Bristol Sport. This holy trinity is used as smoke screen when you try and pin someone down to get something done. Each part will say it’s one of the others who is to blame. This was Mark Ashton’s favourite game.

The SLO regurgitates the same line whenever you try and get a straight answer. 

Not true.  Bristol City FC Ltd together with Ashton Gate (Stadium) Ltd are part of Bristol City Holdings Ltd.  BCH does not trade itself.

Both BCFC Ltd and Bristol Bears Ltd pay rent to AGLtd.

Both also pay Bristol Sport Ltd for shared services like Ticket Sales, Marketing, etc.

Here’s a little pic (created by @Coppello initially).

In fairness to MA, and I disliked massively how he acted here, I don’t ever recall him blaming other parts of SL’s group of companies.  You, yourself might’ve been fobbed off by some employees, granted.

15 minutes ago, Pezo said:

So nothing tangible to say that the club pays rent to the stadium company?

@JerrySLO any ideas?

See above.  The club accounts refer to this.

Edited November 17, 2021 by Davefevs

[Pieman]

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Not true.  Bristol City FC Ltd together with Ashton Gate (Stadium) Ltd are part of Bristol City Holdings Ltd.  BCH does not trade itself.

Both BCFC Ltd and Bristol Bears Ltd pay rent to AGLtd.

Both also pay Bristol Sport Ltd for shared services like Ticket Sales, Marketing, etc.

Here’s a little pic (created by @Coppello initially).

In fairness to MA, and I disliked massively how he acted here, I don’t ever recall him blaming other parts of SL’s group of companies.  You, yourself might’ve been fobbed off by some employees, granted.

See above.  The club accounts refer to this.

‘Incorrect’ rather than untrue? The football and rugby are tenants who pay to use the stadium. You could argue this is no difference from if the stadium and club were one entity, because the upkeep has to be paid for somehow, but at least the club could decide what happens to the seating arrangement which is what this thread is all about.

[Pezo]

9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Not true.  Bristol City FC Ltd together with Ashton Gate (Stadium) Ltd are part of Bristol City Holdings Ltd.  BCH does not trade itself.

Both BCFC Ltd and Bristol Bears Ltd pay rent to AGLtd.

Both also pay Bristol Sport Ltd for shared services like Ticket Sales, Marketing, etc.

Here’s a little pic (created by @Coppello initially).

In fairness to MA, and I disliked massively how he acted here, I don’t ever recall him blaming other parts of SL’s group of companies.  You, yourself might’ve been fobbed off by some employees, granted.

See above.  The club accounts refer to this.

That's what I was looking for, thanks @Davefevs.

So the football club do pay rents - I wonder how that works, is that a relatively nominal fee just for upkeep of the stadium in our case?

I assume the bears pay considerably more because of there position outside the holding company, anyone know this?

coming back to the seats/tables, the club never did anything because a small minority of fans wanted it ever so having the separate doesn't make a difference IMHO. Now we can do a bit of orienteering because of the map - in this case it appears that talking to the club is pretty pointless and actually contacting Ashton gate stadium is the correct place to start - they can't say it's anyone else.

[Davefevs]

4 hours ago, Pieman said:

‘Incorrect’ rather than untrue? The football and rugby are tenants who pay to use the stadium. You could argue this is no difference from if the stadium and club were one entity, because the upkeep has to be paid for somehow, but at least the club could decide what happens to the seating arrangement which is what this thread is all about.

I’m sure the football club already have a very large say in what services / facilities Ashton Gate Ltd provide.  Mark Kelly is fully engaged with both the football and rugby club. He did a very informative interview on @3 Peaps In A PodCasta few months back.

As long as football or rugby proposals meet health and safety requirements and are not wasting money per se, I’m sure AG Ltd is very willing to undertake them.

Btw you were the one who dragged the topic away from OP.

3 hours ago, Pezo said:

That's what I was looking for, thanks @Davefevs.

So the football club do pay rents - I wonder how that works, is that a relatively nominal fee just for upkeep of the stadium in our case?

I assume the bears pay considerably more because of there position outside the holding company, anyone know this?

coming back to the seats/tables, the club never did anything because a small minority of fans wanted it ever so having the separate doesn't make a difference IMHO. Now we can do a bit of orienteering because of the map - in this case it appears that talking to the club is pretty pointless and actually contacting Ashton gate stadium is the correct place to start - they can't say it's anyone else.

In most txns of this type between one company and another, even when inside the same group structure, they tend to be at “arms length”, I.e. as if they weren’t in the same group, therefore costed at market value.  So if City and Bears receive the same “service” / facilities from AG Ltd, I’d fully expect them to pay a similar amount.  No benefit derived from being inside BCH Ltd.

[exAtyeoMax]

https://www.ajproducts.co.uk/changing-room/changing-room-benches-hook-rails/wall-mounted-benches/wall-mounted-changing-room-bench-11398-11402
 

https://www.fitness-sports.co.uk/football-goalposts/pitch-player-sideline-bench.html

i don’t understand why they can’t install fold up wall mounted seats or wall mounted benches or even bring in some freestanding benches that fit up against the wall/recesses and then be removed for events? What do other stadia and similar environments do? You have recessed benches on tube platforms? 
 

Edited November 19, 2021 by exAtyeoMax

[Bernard Lerring]

On 17/11/2021 at 08:51, Clutton Caveman said:

Don't think we need seats but some shelves to put your beer whilst attacking the pie would be good

No need mate, city solved that particular conundrum by making the pies inedible this season 

[Rich]

On 19/11/2021 at 09:18, exAtyeoMax said:

https://www.ajproducts.co.uk/changing-room/changing-room-benches-hook-rails/wall-mounted-benches/wall-mounted-changing-room-bench-11398-11402
 

https://www.fitness-sports.co.uk/football-goalposts/pitch-player-sideline-bench.html

i don’t understand why they can’t install fold up wall mounted seats or wall mounted benches or even bring in some freestanding benches that fit up against the wall/recesses and then be removed for events? What do other stadia and similar environments do? You have recessed benches on tube platforms? 
 

There are literally hundreds of different style of seating, wall mounted, floor mounted cill mounted for the Lansdown. All applicable and perfectly useable in various locations within the concourses at AG. 

I don't think it's the product or the finances, I don't think there's a willingness to do this.

Just one of the many examples available on the net:

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[Topper 123]

I think the club need to turn concourse tv OFF as soon as second half kicks off as too many fans are staying in concourse and effecting atmosphere on terraces ,large empty spaces as hundreds or even thousands stay and drink watching football on tv ? Not really what supporting your team is about , players must think **** you