CiderJar Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 We would be 9 points better off and so just outside the play-offs (or pretty much already safe from relegation) on 43 points Either way we are not going up and not going down this seasons so let's just enjoy the Semenyo, Scott and Massengo show whilst we've still got them? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, CiderJar said: We would be 9 points better off and so just outside the play-offs (or pretty much already safe from relegation) on 43 points Either way we are not going up and not going down this seasons so let's just enjoy the Semenyo, Scott and Massengo show whilst we've still got them? With Williams now getting back to fitness it's a real headache as to who he replaces. Scott and Massengo definitely don't get dropped, and with Dasilva getting back into his stride I'd be keeping him in the side. The only feasible way to fit Williams in would be to drop Martin, which is again very harsh as I think he's a solid player for us and a very composed finisher when he gets into the right position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, CiderJar said: We would be 9 points better off and so just outside the play-offs (or pretty much already safe from relegation) on 43 points Either way we are not going up and not going down this seasons so let's just enjoy the Semenyo, Scott and Massengo show whilst we've still got them? I agree. They are fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red since 87 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 We scored in injury time against Huddersfield, so only 8 points, still a shocking stat all the same!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 hour ago, TomF said: Surely we’d have to apply the logic to the other 23 teams to see where we’d actually be. I bet we’d be only slightly higher up the table Yeah exactly Tom, which is why I go on to say "Either way we are not going up and not going down this season" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted January 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Red since 87 said: We scored in injury time against Huddersfield, so only 8 points, still a shocking stat all the same!!!!!! True, my bad. Edited January 30, 2022 by CiderJar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, P'head Red said: With Williams now getting back to fitness it's a real headache as to who he replaces. Scott and Massengo definitely don't get dropped, and with Dasilva getting back into his stride I'd be keeping him in the side. The only feasible way to fit Williams in would be to drop Martin, which is again very harsh as I think he's a solid player for us and a very composed finisher when he gets into the right position. Good decision to have isn’t it. A very good team performance yesterday but I though O’dowda was poor. I’d possibly be looking to (if fit) play Atkinson left of the back three . Pring , wing back. Drop Callum . He could also put Scott back into right wing back & play jay on the left & bring williams into midfield . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Goals scored after the 90th min are still worth the same as goals scored before then, last time I checked. (I do get your point though, but I think this point has been made to death) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Good decision to have isn’t it. A very good team performance yesterday but I though O’dowda was poor. I’d possibly be looking to (if fit) play Atkinson left of the back three . Pring , wing back. Drop Callum . He could also put Scott back into right wing back & play jay on the left & bring williams into midfield . Yeah that's true, I did mention the option of pushing pring forward in another thread in replace of odowda, but feel Scott is a bit wasted at rwb, and would keep the improved Dasilva there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, P'head Red said: Yeah that's true, I did mention the option of pushing pring forward in another thread in replace of odowda, but feel Scott is a bit wasted at rwb, and would keep the improved Dasilva there. Yeah Scott is wasted there I agree. Good problems to have for a change. Jay deserves to stay in the side . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 34 minutes ago, YGBjammy said: Goals scored after the 90th min are still worth the same as goals scored before then, last time I checked. (I do get your point though, but I think this point has been made to death) Of course and as others said other clubs have dropped points after 90. We even have salvaged a few after 90. Think what gets me though is I think I counted 12 points dropped after 90th min. The 12 is bad but it was over 6-7 games out of 29. That is almost 25% of the season which is why it grates so much. You expect it 2-3 times at worst over an entire season I’d guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, P'head Red said: With Williams now getting back to fitness it's a real headache as to who he replaces. Scott and Massengo definitely don't get dropped, and with Dasilva getting back into his stride I'd be keeping him in the side. The only feasible way to fit Williams in would be to drop Martin, which is again very harsh as I think he's a solid player for us and a very composed finisher when he gets into the right position. O'Dowda! He has promised so much but never delivers. Hits crosses wildly and so rarely accurate and his attempts at shots are feeble to say the least. Yesterday's wild shot over the bar is a typical example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, P'head Red said: With Williams now getting back to fitness it's a real headache as to who he replaces. Scott and Massengo definitely don't get dropped, and with Dasilva getting back into his stride I'd be keeping him in the side. The only feasible way to fit Williams in would be to drop Martin, which is again very harsh as I think he's a solid player for us and a very composed finisher when he gets into the right position. Scott should have a rest soon, played quite a few consecutive games for such a young player. So leave Martin in but replace Odowda with Pring and if Atkinson isn't fit then Vyner comes in to the back 3 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Red since 87 said: We scored in injury time against Huddersfield, so only 8 points, still a shocking stat all the same!!!!!! I might be missing something here but we still lost that match even with the injury time goal. We didn't gain a point from that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Anyone remember the days when games did actually end on 90 minutes regardless of injuries etc? I'm not imagining that am I ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, P'head Red said: With Williams now getting back to fitness it's a real headache as to who he replaces. Scott and Massengo definitely don't get dropped, and with Dasilva getting back into his stride I'd be keeping him in the side. The only feasible way to fit Williams in would be to drop Martin, which is again very harsh as I think he's a solid player for us and a very composed finisher when he gets into the right position. No. COD is dropped. All day long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, cidered abroad said: O'Dowda! He has promised so much but never delivers. Hits crosses wildly and so rarely accurate and his attempts at shots are feeble to say the least. Yesterday's wild shot over the bar is a typical example. At the moment I'd like COD to play for the 1st hour and then bring Williams on, until Williams is fully up to match fitness. . tt would be good for COD to have competion (Ngiel favours him)and I'd actually like to see COD take the corners like he used to back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 9 hours ago, P'head Red said: With Williams now getting back to fitness it's a real headache as to who he replaces. Scott and Massengo definitely don't get dropped, and with Dasilva getting back into his stride I'd be keeping him in the side. The only feasible way to fit Williams in would be to drop Martin, which is again very harsh as I think he's a solid player for us and a very composed finisher when he gets into the right position. Atkinson for Odowda once fit and move pring to LWB and that’s a very solid team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsene's Wanger Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Anyone remember the days when games did actually end on 90 minutes regardless of injuries etc? I'm not imagining that am I ? I've been watching football for 50 years and don't remember that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, Arsene's Wanger said: I've been watching football for 50 years and don't remember that. There`s always been injury time as far as I can remember. Back before you knew how much was due to be added on was fun though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said: There`s always been injury time as far as I can remember. Back before you knew how much was due to be added on was fun though! I don't think the ref knew either as it was stop the watch for an injury, restart the watch when the sponge man left the pitch and play restarted. Hence the match always lasted for 90 minutes on the ref's watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, redysteadygo said: I don't think the ref knew either as it was stop the watch for an injury, restart the watch when the sponge man left the pitch and play restarted. Hence the match always lasted for 90 minutes on the ref's watch. Constant whistling from the crowd once ninety minutes was up if you were hanging on to a 1-0. Happy days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 16 hours ago, CiderJar said: We would be 9 points better off and so just outside the play-offs (or pretty much already safe from relegation) on 43 points Either way we are not going up and not going down this seasons so let's just enjoy the Semenyo, Scott and Massengo show whilst we've still got them? Nice Excel Table work 13 hours ago, Red since 87 said: We scored in injury time against Huddersfield, so only 8 points, still a shocking stat all the same!!!!!! We were 3-1 down, so doesn’t matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Constant whistling from the crowd once ninety minutes was up if you were hanging on to a 1-0. Happy days! Some games, the whistling started around 85 minutes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Nice Excel Table work We were 3-1 down, so doesn’t matter. It does matter though Fevs, it renders the Excel work invalid, here it is updated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 17 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Anyone remember the days when games did actually end on 90 minutes regardless of injuries etc? I'm not imagining that am I ? That was back in the days of 10 minutes halftime wasn't it, 3 o'clock games finished at 20 to 5 and midweek games started at 7.30 and finished at 10 past 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 19 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Anyone remember the days when games did actually end on 90 minutes regardless of injuries etc? I'm not imagining that am I ? Remember games finishing at 4.45 on a Saturday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 If it weren't for goals in added time, we would never have enjoyed THAT Smith goal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: If it weren't for goals in added time, we would never have enjoyed THAT Smith goal.... Absolutely! Or Nahki's fine winner at QPR season. The point of this thread, that I was trying to make, was that it makes no difference this season. We've been unlucky, or more likely a bit sloppy and careless in seeing games out, but we wouldn't be winning the league, as some would suggest, if we hadn't conceded those late goals. And we wouldn't have played Manchester in the semi-final had we not scored the winner against Manchester after 90 minutes of the quarter-final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 hours ago, CiderJar said: It does matter though Fevs, it renders the Excel work invalid, here it is updated... I didn’t realise you had it at -1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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