AshtonRobin21 Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Dean Gerken returning to the club as a youth goalkeeping coach according to Gregor. What a great bloke Gerken is. I remember being in my early teens, me and my mates were going to buy some away tickets from the ground. Gerken walked past us, and asked us how we were and what we were up to. Once we said that we were getting away tickets, he asked how many we needed. He gave us all (6 of us) tickets for free. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Someone mentioned him on the u21 MDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Dean Gerken returning to the club as a youth goalkeeping coach according to Gregor. What a great bloke Gerken is. I remember being in my early teens, me and my mates were going to buy some away tickets from the ground. Gerken walked past us, and asked us how we were and what we were up to. Once we said that we were getting away tickets, he asked how many we needed. He gave us all (6 of us) tickets for free. That’s because players don’t need/want their away comps home tickets a different matter, like rabid animals fighting over them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Hope he doesn’t take the pee this time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted August 31, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Dean Gerken returning to the club as a youth goalkeeping coach according to Gregor. What a great bloke Gerken is. I remember being in my early teens, me and my mates were going to buy some away tickets from the ground. Gerken walked past us, and asked us how we were and what we were up to. Once we said that we were getting away tickets, he asked how many we needed. He gave us all (6 of us) tickets for free. He is already back here and working already 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 4 hours ago, alexukhc said: Hope he doesn’t take the pee this time Didn't he get in a bit of a pickle over that incident? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Zeppelin Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 Latest NP conference, Dean is coaching the U21s but "not an appointment or mine..." and became highly defensive around the question. A hairline fracture with club management, or reading too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Red Zeppelin said: Latest NP conference, Dean is coaching the U21s but "not an appointment or mine..." and became highly defensive around the question. A hairline fracture with club management, or reading too much? No, I just think he was emphasising that we have a management structure and it's not for him to be making appointments outside his remit. The football operation seems to be united from top to bottom and people are trusted to do their jobs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, Red Zeppelin said: Latest NP conference, Dean is coaching the U21s but "not an appointment or mine..." and became highly defensive around the question. A hairline fracture with club management, or reading too much? Also thought he said “no” when asked if he was joining as a coach? Was a bit odd/tense either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, petehinton said: Also thought he said “no” when asked if he was joining as a coach? Was a bit odd/tense either way It was an unnecessarily tetchy answer, I got the impression he was trying to be too clever, but that Gerken is here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 12, 2022 Report Share Posted September 12, 2022 1 hour ago, chinapig said: No, I just think he was emphasising that we have a management structure and it's not for him to be making appointments outside his remit. The football operation seems to be united from top to bottom and people are trusted to do their jobs. Without having watched it I imagine its basically him saying he's not involved with academy appointments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Red Zeppelin said: Latest NP conference, Dean is coaching the U21s but "not an appointment or mine..." and became highly defensive around the question. A hairline fracture with club management, or reading too much? Reading too much, np has a say over first team matters, gerks would of been appointed by the u21 manager, Also it's gmg asking and I get a sense that np can't stand him Edited September 13, 2022 by Monkeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 13, 2022 Report Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Monkeh said: Reading too much, np has a say over first team matters, gerks would of been appointed by the u21 manager, Also it's gmg asking and I get a sense that np can't stand him It wasn’t Gregor. Was Rich Forrester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Not sure why this job is really necessary. How many coaches do we have now and after losing £40 million, I would have thought that these types of roles would have been the first to have their numbers cut. Good luck to him and I hope he does well, but a goalkeeping coach never sounded like a full time job to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) What if he’s just here to do “some hours” whilst he looks for a full-time position? edit: or…. From Gregor interview with Ali Hines Edited September 14, 2022 by Davefevs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Not sure why this job is really necessary. How many coaches do we have now and after losing £40 million, I would have thought that these types of roles would have been the first to have their numbers cut. Good luck to him and I hope he does well, but a goalkeeping coach never sounded like a full time job to me. Surely you can appreciate that clubs need goalkeeping coaches? Outfield coaches cannot coach goalkeepers. Even independent academies have goalkeeper coaches to coach and improve their under 11s keepers. Very much a specialised area and certainly as much a full time job as an outfield coach. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Not sure why this job is really necessary. How many coaches do we have now and after losing £40 million, I would have thought that these types of roles would have been the first to have their numbers cut. Good luck to him and I hope he does well, but a goalkeeping coach never sounded like a full time job to me. The academy gets audited, as part of being a cat 2 academy we need certain jobs filled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lrrr said: The academy gets audited, as part of being a cat 2 academy we need certain jobs filled Out of interest wasn’t Ali Hines a GK coach? Guess Gilmartin was part filling the role too at one point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Out of interest wasn’t Ali Hines a GK coach? Guess Gilmartin was part filling the role too at one point? Hines was previous 21’s goalkeeper coach, Gilmartin was 21’s assistant coach with Hines as GK coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 Whilst I understand the above, how many coaches do we have though? It seems like a new one gets appointed every month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Whilst I understand the above, how many coaches do we have though? It seems like a new one gets appointed every month or two. Academy level tends to be age group head, age group assistant and a goalkeeper coach one does schoolboys ages, one does 18’s and 23’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Whilst I understand the above, how many coaches do we have though? It seems like a new one gets appointed every month or two. I'm not sure its any more than previously just we are hearing about it a lot more and the club is a lot more open. It also feels like we are targeting 'up and coming' coaches who I imagine would be on a significantly lower contract than what we would have dished out previously and have abandoned the 'jobs for boys/family' approach. Yes, ex players are leading a number of roles but these individuals have been handpicked and worked for these roles, not just given them It feels like we have a really good blend of experience and youth both on and off the pitch right now and there is a real togetherness and energy at the club. I would say there's been noticeable improvements in individuals performances and abilities over the last 12 months so by all means get as many coaches as you want! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: Not sure why this job is really necessary. How many coaches do we have now and after losing £40 million, I would have thought that these types of roles would have been the first to have their numbers cut. Good luck to him and I hope he does well, but a goalkeeping coach never sounded like a full time job to me. You'd be surprised at what ' specialist' coaches exist. Throw in specialists, set piece specialists. All manner of coaches that specialise in different parts of the game. Not saying we have those...but every angle is covered, both mentally and physically. And the further up the pyramid you go...the more you get. We are after all competing in the 5th biggest league in the world. Which when you think about it, is a bit mad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 minute ago, spudski said: You'd be surprised at what ' specialist' coaches exist. Throw in specialists, set piece specialists. All manner of coaches that specialise in different parts of the game. Not saying we have those...but every angle is covered, both mentally and physically. And the further up the pyramid you go...the more you get. We are after all competing in the 5th biggest league in the world. Which when you think about it, is a bit mad Sorry if I'm being a bit dense but which football leagues are bigger than the English pyramid set up of Prem, EFL and National? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Sorry if I'm being a bit dense but which football leagues are bigger than the English pyramid set up of Prem, EFL and National? I meant division rather than nationality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, spudski said: You'd be surprised at what ' specialist' coaches exist. Throw in specialists, set piece specialists. All manner of coaches that specialise in different parts of the game. Last season we had a need for a "re-start" coach - we kicked off more than 100 times, didn't score once. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underhanded Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 if people are worrying about wage expenditure on a role like Dean Gerken has, I can assure you he is paid absolutely **** compared to any of our players. I've banged this drum before but wages for everyone apart from the very senior coaching/management staff at this level is poor. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Last season we had a need for a "re-start" coach - we kicked off more than 100 times, didn't score once. Well I definitely think we've been working on throw ins. So much better now. More options, more movement...and some thought as to where to throw the ball. Before we were awful at movement, and also just threw it, without thought to how it could be received. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, underhanded said: if people are worrying about wage expenditure on a role like Dean Gerken has, I can assure you he is paid absolutely **** compared to any of our players. I've banged this drum before but wages for everyone apart from the very senior coaching/management staff at this level is poor. Absolutely. I remember seeing an advert for our under 23s manager position a few years ago and it was £35k per year. That is a very important role! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 14, 2022 Report Share Posted September 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Absolutely. I remember seeing an advert for our under 23s manager position a few years ago and it was £35k per year. That is a very important role! Yep...the U23 manager role was C £37,500 The average wage for an academy coach is C £27,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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