Robbored Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Redtucks said: I don't remember you mentioning taking a club to the PL making you a proper manager. You mentioned managers with promotions on their CV, so I suggest Gary Johnson and Steve Cotterill. I'm sure you wouldn't agree that GJ was a proper manager though! Promotion to the PL - not promotion from the lower leagues qualifies any manager as ‘proper’…….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Robbored said: Promotion to the PL - not promotion from the lower leagues qualifies any manager as ‘proper’…….. By your rationale then, Parker is 2 x the manager of NP. Two Championship seasons, 2 promotions...a lot more to it. Clearly Wilson's achievements at Barnsley taking them up are to be applauded but here, twice close but no cigar. Couldn't get us over the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: By your rationale then, Parker is 2 x the manager of NP. Two Championship seasons, 2 promotions...a lot more to it. Clearly Wilson's achievements at Barnsley taking them up are to be applauded but here, twice close but no cigar. Couldn't get us over the line. Scott Parker has achieved two promotions to the PL and that makes him a proper manager Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Robbored said: Scott Parker has achieved two promotions to the PL and that makes him a proper manager Imo. What’s your explanation of a ‘proper manager ‘ then ? That phrase means nothing and is waft, without an explanation ? or is it as shallow as you’ve inferred ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: Scott Parker has achieved two promotions to the PL and that makes him a proper manager Imo. So if GJ wins against Hull only then is he a proper manager…he was so close 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Logical-City said: So if GJ wins against Hull only then is he a proper manager…he was so close He didn’t win it tho………… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: What’s your explanation of a ‘proper manager ‘ then ? That phrase means nothing and is waft, without an explanation ? or is it as shallow as you’ve inferred ? A ‘proper’ manager to me is someone who has significant experience of managing higher up in the football pyramid with promotion to the PL on their CV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: A ‘proper’ manager to me is someone who has significant experience of managing higher up in the football pyramid with promotion to the PL on their CV. So Ian Holloway then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Robbored said: A ‘proper’ manager to me is someone who has significant experience of managing higher up in the football pyramid with promotion to the PL on their CV. So , Phil Brown another ? @Code Red Holloway This is going to be fun Edited September 5, 2022 by Sheltons Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Logical-City said: Anyone who watched city between 02-04 should know City would have been at there best with Doherty and Tinnion in the middle we dropped a lot of points to teams teams like Colchester, Chesterfield by playing Doherty and Brunell every week in the middle. I've been watching city since 1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Promotion to the PL - not promotion from the lower leagues qualifies any manager as ‘proper’…….. Taking Yeovil to the championship is a bigger achievement imo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 This thread is comedy gold! Destined for the classics already! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: So , Phil Brown another ? @Code Red Holloway This is going to be fun Iain Dowie… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Logical-City said: Anyone who watched city between 02-04 should know City would have been at there best with Doherty and Tinnion in the middle we dropped a lot of points to teams teams like Colchester, Chesterfield by playing Doherty and Brunell every week in the middle. Yes, but to be fair Isambard was at his peak around the time that Temple Meads Station was built and designing the Suspension Bridge, so was well past his best during DW's time here and was never really a midfielder. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 04/09/2022 at 11:20, Sheltons Army said: He’s like that middle aged , weathered RAC guy who turns up to you as you are marooned on the side of the M5 with steam emerging from somewhere under the bonnet and a very poorly motor, you’re thinking catastrophic Stressed , because you absolutely have to get somewhere and babbling your stress in blind panic to him He gives a slight grin as he opens the side door on his van reaching for some tools , turns to you , chuckles and says with a slight smile ‘Don’t worry mate ............I’ll have you off and running in 20 mins or so’ And you realise......he will I'm having this tattooed. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, CodeRed said: So Ian Holloway then? Absolutely. Players that have played for him all respect and rate him as a top manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Taking Yeovil to the championship is a bigger achievement imo Absolutely It’s nonsense , there are and have been some great / really decent managers over the years like GJ , who have never got near the Premier League , probably for a reason , different jobs , requirements , skill sets etc Johnson’s achievements particularly at Yeovil and and us p*** all over Parker’s promotion to PL with parachute clubs for example ‘Proper manager’ is waffle , , shallow & meaningless without real context Square pegs in square holes is the key Pep for example is clearly an exceptional coach with top end players to play his absolute requirements We all joke about it , but see how good you are if thrown in at Chesterfield with players that simply can’t play the way you demand Someone like Klopp would find a way and both are unquestionably ‘elite’ managers but the fit , the requirements , the ingredients/tools available are all different 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, glynriley said: Iain Dowie… Nice glyn That may take some beating ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Pep for example is clearly an exceptional coach with top end players to play his absolute requirements We all joke about it , but see how good you are if thrown in at Chesterfield with players that simply can’t play the way you demand Someone like Klopp would find a way and both are unquestionably ‘elite’ managers but the fit , the requirements , the ingredients/tools available are all different Never taken a team from the Championship to the Premier League though have they. Bald fraud and a toothy conman respectively. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Gary Johnson took Yeovil from the Conference to league 1 in 4 seasons. He then took City into the championship and to within 90 minutes of the prem in his first 2 full seasons. ( something his apparently more illustrious predecessor DW failed to do) On his return to Yeovil he took them into the championship. In between he "called out" Robbored in his office. I think that qualifies him as a "proper manager". The championship play off final season a perfect demonstration of a manager making a team greater than the sum of it's parts and it's a shame that for many he will be remembered more for the manner of his departure than the peak of his time here. 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, TomF said: Wondered why this was a hot topic. Wish I hadn’t Same. Though to be fair, it must be at least a whole month since the resident attention seeker last did this argument, so it was probably due again. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TomF said: Wondered why this was a hot topic. Wish I hadn’t Hmm...I wonder ... are you sure you can't reinstate that function of the ignore feature which meant that you didn't have to see the resident troll even quoted? The fact that he feels able to even comment on what makes a proper manager boggles my mind. Btw GJ gave me some of my happiest memories at the city, loved him and so did his players...Cotts demanded respect and built a formidable maybe l league one team.. DW? flattered to deceive imo... Edited September 5, 2022 by Will Rollason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Can someone come and collect Robbotwat please? He’s shat himself for attention again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Gary Johnson is still a whole lot of fans favourite ever City Manager , (Hes mine and I was here for Alan Dicks onwards ) ... probably currently fighting the accolade with Cotts for many Great isn’t it * Big Nige quietly heading towards the podium for me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Same. Though to be fair, it must be at least a whole month since the resident attention seeker last did this argument, so it was probably due again. He repeats himself over and over all the time. About any topic, we’ve heard it about a million times. It’s tedious. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Nice glyn That may take some beating ! Tim Sherwood. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 Just now, Silvio Dante said: Tim Sherwood. Oooooooooooh Silvio pushes to the top of the betting at 8/11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Tim Sherwood. Who did he manage to a PL promotion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Tim Sherwood. 6 minutes ago, glynriley said: Who did he manage to a PL promotion? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted September 5, 2022 Report Share Posted September 5, 2022 dont forget dopey,he must have been a proper manager, loads of others have done it but he got a tented village up into the football league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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