Foxes Forum -Views on Nigel Pearson

[Abraham Romanovich]

Just to add to the feelgood factor 

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/123374-nigel-pearson-here-and-now/#comments

"Rodgers ain’t a patch on Nige. Bring him back. "

"So jealous of the ride the Bristol City fans are going on at the moment. He gave me some of my favourite years following football, you just knew they were going to turn up week in week out and give absolutely everything. "

Going to be a bitter pill for a lot on here when we're in a lower league than Nige next season! 

[P'head Red]

Most clubs have their relative cycle. I don't think they'll go down this season, but they're obviously a long way from where they were a couple of years ago. And I expect they'll bounce back a few years down the line. 

[Ostrich]

What's interesting about our fans and Pearson, and I say this as someone who would swap Rodgers for Pearson in a heartbeat, is many of them seem to be forgetting that exactly what they say about Rodgers now is what they were saying about Pearson at times after he came back in 11/12 and certainly when we collapsed in the second half of 12/13 - they certainly weren't saying "you just knew they were going to turn up week in week out and give absolutely everything" after Barnsley away that year for example.

The tendency of selective memory.

[Port Said Red]

3 minutes ago, Ostrich said:

What's interesting about our fans and Pearson, and I say this as someone who would swap Rodgers for Pearson in a heartbeat, is many of them seem to be forgetting that exactly what they say about Rodgers now is what they were saying about Pearson at times after he came back in 11/12 and certainly when we collapsed in the second half of 12/13 - they certainly weren't saying "you just knew they were going to turn up week in week out and give absolutely everything" after Barnsley away that year for example.

The tendency of selective memory.

It's like Lee Johnson on here but in reverse.

[samo II]

1 minute ago, Ostrich said:

What's interesting about our fans and Pearson, and I say this as someone who would swap Rodgers for Pearson in a heartbeat, is many of them seem to be forgetting that exactly what they say about Rodgers now is what they were saying about Pearson at times after he came back in 11/12 and certainly when we collapsed in the second half of 12/13 - they certainly weren't saying "you just knew they were going to turn up week in week out and give absolutely everything" after Barnsley away that year for example.

The tendency of selective memory.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Think all football fans who’ve had good times under a manager or with a player have a tendency to hark back to them when things go south.

But I think with Pearson, we’re probably proving a decent project for him due to a number of factors; as you say, he’s worked under restrictions that have granted him time, and he’s been mainly shrewd in his buys and blessed with solid youth players, so would be surprised if he’d leg it to a bigger club in a difficult situation at the drop of a hat.

[Ostrich]

13 minutes ago, samo II said:

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Think all football fans who’ve had good times under a manager or with a player have a tendency to hark back to them when things go south.

But I think with Pearson, we’re probably proving a decent project for him due to a number of factors; as you say, he’s worked under restrictions that have granted him time, and he’s been mainly shrewd in his buys and blessed with solid youth players, so would be surprised if he’d leg it to a bigger club in a difficult situation at the drop of a hat.

Depends on the individual - if you value the project, seeing things through, and not upsetting the apple cart once you're in the groove then stick with it. I do think that is Pearson. Certainly think as his years progress with not perfect health, he will value things other than climbing the ladder so to speak.

 The only question is whether he thinks he has unfinished business again. Immaterial because I doubt he'd be under consideration anyway.

[glynriley]

14 minutes ago, samo II said:

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

Think all football fans who’ve had good times under a manager or with a player have a tendency to hark back to them when things go south.

But I think with Pearson, we’re probably proving a decent project for him due to a number of factors; as you say, he’s worked under restrictions that have granted him time, and he’s been mainly shrewd in his buys and blessed with solid youth players, so would be surprised if he’d leg it to a bigger club in a difficult situation at the drop of a hat.

I watched his interview, from when he was appointed full time, back the other day. 
 

It’s a good reminder for some of our fans, as it was for me, that the project that Nige spoke about that day, is running along just as he had mapped out in his head. 
 

 

[Sheltons Army]

34 minutes ago, glynriley said:

I watched his interview, from when he was appointed full time, back the other day. 
 

It’s a good reminder for some of our fans, as it was for me, that the project that Nige spoke about that day, is running along just as he had mapped out in his head. 
 

 

He’s like that middle aged , weathered RAC guy who turns up to you as you are marooned on the side of the M5 with steam emerging from somewhere under the bonnet and a very poorly motor, you’re thinking catastrophic 

Stressed , because you absolutely have to get somewhere and babbling your stress in blind panic to him

He gives a slight grin as he opens the side door on his van reaching for some tools , turns to you , chuckles and says with a slight smile

‘Don’t worry mate ............I’ll have you off and running in 20 mins or so’

 

And you realise......he will

 

[Street red]

3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

He’s like that middle aged , weathered RAC guy who turns up to you as you are marooned on the side of the M5 with steam emerging from somewhere under the bonnet and a very poorly motor, you’re thinking catastrophic 

Stressed , because you absolutely have to get somewhere and babbling your stress in blind panic to him

He gives a slight grin as he opens the side door on his van reaching for some tools , turns to you , chuckles and says with a slight smile

‘Don’t worry mate ............I’ll have you off and running in 20 mins or so’

 

And you realise......he will

 

Sums it up perfectly 

[Sheltons Army]

If you listen to him , he’s  actually a gentleman , straight talking but very measured , and very ‘strong’ in stature and presence , but conducts himself so well

 

( * mind you , I Would have loved to have been a bystander when he found Marley hiding in the HPC to avoid training )

You can guarantee he will be giving , say Alex Scott , a roasting mid training on Tuesday for sloppy passing , and walking off from the session 25 mins later with his arm around him , grin on his face , pulling Scott’s leg and reminding him what a good player he is and how well he is doing !

Edited September 4, 2022 by Sheltons Army

[Davefevs]

Thanks @glynrileyfor re-linking.

The things that stood out for me watching back…

• the vision / objective is PL

Thats the easy bit!

But the important bit is planning how to get from A to B.  Changing the culture is a big part in that.

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, Abraham Romanovich said:

Just to add to the feelgood factor 

https://www.foxestalk.co.uk/topic/123374-nigel-pearson-here-and-now/#comments

"Rodgers ain’t a patch on Nige. Bring him back. "

"So jealous of the ride the Bristol City fans are going on at the moment. He gave me some of my favourite years following football, you just knew they were going to turn up week in week out and give absolutely everything. "

Going to be a bitter pill for a lot on here when we're in a lower league than Nige next season! 

He is doing the same job here. Luckily SL is letting him get on with it. Bristol City Premier League Champions in two seasons. 

[Kid in the Riot]

1 hour ago, Ostrich said:

The only question is whether he thinks he has unfinished business again. Immaterial because I doubt he'd be under consideration anyway.

Why, out of interest? Because they'd want a bigger name?

There was a Leicester fan on 606 last Saturday, who'd been at our game at Blackpool. He said he wanted Pearson back, and ever since then, the more I've been thinking about it, the more it worries me that it could happen. I agree, unlikely. However, I think it would also make a lot of sense for your owners assuming Pearson keeps us up in the top 4/5 of the division and you guys continue to struggle. 

As I say, an outside chance, but much stranger things have happened in football. Pearson has made some "interesting" career choices over the years too. 

[Midred]

After he got Leicester promoted and they were doing well why did he leave/get the sack for the club to then bring Ranieri in to take the plaudits for winning the Championship? 

[Southport Red]

This quote is my favourite. 

[Keepers Ball]

Absolutely laughable. When Rodgers went in they were all getting excited.

And now Nige has gone on a mini run of results they want him? They wouldn't have given him a second glance last season.

[AshtonRobin21]

16 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Why, out of interest? Because they'd want a bigger name?

There was a Leicester fan on 606 last Saturday, who'd been at our game at Blackpool. He said he wanted Pearson back, and ever since then, the more I've been thinking about it, the more it worries me that it could happen. I agree, unlikely. However, I think it would also make a lot of sense for your owners assuming Pearson keeps us up in the top 4/5 of the division and you guys continue to struggle. 

As I say, an outside chance, but much stranger things have happened in football. Pearson has made some "interesting" career choices over the years too. 

My worry also. 

I think it's more possible than some may think. He has a fantastic relationship with their owners still to this day. 

He was at the opening ceremony of their new training ground last year, after being personally invited by their chairman. 

Some managers click at certain clubs, and Pearson is certainly well-suited to Leicester. 

I really hope it doesn't happen, but I wouldn't rule it out. 

[Sheltons Army]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Thanks @glynrileyfor re-linking.

The things that stood out for me watching back…

• the vision / objective is PL

Thats the easy bit!

But the important bit is planning how to get from A to B.  Changing the culture is a big part in that.

Yes thanks @glynriley , I’ve listened to it , and then listened again !

I found it absolutely fascinating , listening to it now , and considering his words in various interviews since , and yesterday’s , and what has happened and what we’ve seen along a bumpy road

I found the interview good, interesting,  and quite reassuring at the time ,

but when you listen to it back , now , it was IMHO absolutely brilliant 

Hes a very level headed , intelligent , strong , wise , man , deep thinking and the absolute epitome (For me) of a true ‘leader’

It’s absolutely clear that he  made a brilliant and very astute professional assessment of the Club and its issues at that time and you could feel that he had a clear plan and idea of what he needed to do, and you can see , one by one , things he talked about in that interview being ticked off or significantly improved 

Besides the improvement on the pitch , it leaves me feeling very reassured about our trajectory and our current health

Its ironic , that the actual mess we were in , I actually believe in a twist of fate did us a favour

Nigel Pearson is himself , clearly stimulated , and I’d guess ‘at his best’ , by a ‘challenge’ and to a large degree we may have been the perfect fit for him (With the facilities etc we were at least a Club in decent shape) , a project , a challenge with the potential tools attainable or available , in time

I think we needed him , he’s possibly the most assured ‘leader’ I can recall in my years , and I think we , and the challenge have brought / are bringing out , the best of him 

I really like and admire the fact , that he was so realistic about the challenge , especially knowing the financial constraints moving forward, and actually openly relished it, and no changing goalposts since,  whining about lack of budget etc etc , just got on with it and attempted to deliver exactly what he said he would do , or try to.

I like that he absolutely gets supporters , and their desire to see commitment (He mentions it regularly) and to enjoy their football , and the responsibility of the players in respect of supporters

Is he taking us up at some point ?
Not a clue !    
 

But personally , I think we are very fortunate to have him , ( it’s a shame we couldn’t have had him a few years back ) and their are lots of things to take real pride in being a City fan at the moment and Pearson is one of them

 

I really like him, and more importantly I really rate him , totally trust him

 

[The Bard]

22 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Why, out of interest? Because they'd want a bigger name?

There was a Leicester fan on 606 last Saturday, who'd been at our game at Blackpool. He said he wanted Pearson back, and ever since then, the more I've been thinking about it, the more it worries me that it could happen. I agree, unlikely. However, I think it would also make a lot of sense for your owners assuming Pearson keeps us up in the top 4/5 of the division and you guys continue to struggle. 

As I say, an outside chance, but much stranger things have happened in football. Pearson has made some "interesting" career choices over the years too. 

He'll stay here.  Unless there is some unwanted ownership interference that will make him think 'why am I bothering?'

However, you would hope that the work done so far means that will not happen.  

That leads me to think, if we stay in contention at the top of the table, surely the sale of the club becomes likely.  It would be typical for the Lansdowns to sell to someone who then undermines Nige and he jumps ship.  

[Sheltons Army]

2 minutes ago, The Bard said:

He'll stay here.  Unless there is some unwanted ownership interference that will make him think 'why am I bothering?'

However, you would hope that the work done so far means that will not happen.  

That leads me to think, if we stay in contention at the top of the table, surely the sale of the club becomes likely.  It would be typical for the Lansdowns to sell to someone who then undermines Nige and he jumps ship.  

Dont....just don’t......

.........my god ...you can .....can’t you

[ExiledAjax]

Living in Leicestershire means I'm meeting quite a few Foxes fans at the moment.

Generally I get told/asked something along the lines of "Pearson is doing well with you isn't he? Did you know he laid the groundwork for our PL win? You've got a good guy at the helm there. Nah wouldn't want him back though as those days are gone?"

Then I ask who they'd like and I'd say the majority say they want the bloke managing their adversary today: Potter.

Just my anecdotal evidence.

[ScottishRed]

28 minutes ago, Midred said:

After he got Leicester promoted and they were doing well why did he leave/get the sack for the club to then bring Ranieri in to take the plaudits for winning the Championship? 

IIRC there was an unpleasant incident involving young Leicester players on a post season trip to Thailand, this was a club trip and involved Nigel’s son. 

Nigel lost his job over this / resigned, can’t remember which.

[Sheltons Army]

Good posts on their forum @Superjack

[Ostrich]

54 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Why, out of interest? Because they'd want a bigger name?

There was a Leicester fan on 606 last Saturday, who'd been at our game at Blackpool. He said he wanted Pearson back, and ever since then, the more I've been thinking about it, the more it worries me that it could happen. I agree, unlikely. However, I think it would also make a lot of sense for your owners assuming Pearson keeps us up in the top 4/5 of the division and you guys continue to struggle. 

As I say, an outside chance, but much stranger things have happened in football. Pearson has made some "interesting" career choices over the years too. 

Yes. If he was out of work and they needed an interim, then they might go back there (like Watford did), but that's not going to be the case. It's 8 games into the Championship season, having finished 17th last year - anyone who is slightly in the loop or looks at this forum will know there's reasons for that but it's not quite what gets you a Premier League job at a club that, at least longer term, still aims to challenge a bit further up even if we're not going to be doing that this year. I think there's also question marks over his PL record too.

The relationship is there still that makes it a possibility which it wouldn't be for anyone else in the league, it'd also probably be quite cheap and I'm not sure of the viable alternatives. I think Rodgers is here much longer than the fans hope.

[TV Tom]

1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said:

He’s like that middle aged , weathered RAC guy who turns up to you as you are marooned on the side of the M5 with steam emerging from somewhere under the bonnet and a very poorly motor, you’re thinking catastrophic 

Stressed , because you absolutely have to get somewhere and babbling your stress in blind panic to him

He gives a slight grin as he opens the side door on his van reaching for some tools , turns to you , chuckles and says with a slight smile

‘Don’t worry mate ............I’ll have you off and running in 20 mins or so’

 

And you realise......he will

 

That is just one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard, love it

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Sheltons Army said:

He’s like that middle aged , weathered RAC guy who turns up to you as you are marooned on the side of the M5 with steam emerging from somewhere under the bonnet and a very poorly motor, you’re thinking catastrophic 

Stressed , because you absolutely have to get somewhere and babbling your stress in blind panic to him

He gives a slight grin as he opens the side door on his van reaching for some tools , turns to you , chuckles and says with a slight smile

‘Don’t worry mate ............I’ll have you off and running in 20 mins or so’

 

And you realise......he will

 

SL had been with Green Flag, that was the problem!

[GrahamC]

2 hours ago, glynriley said:

I watched his interview, from when he was appointed full time, back the other day. 
 

It’s a good reminder for some of our fans, as it was for me, that the project that Nige spoke about that day, is running along just as he had mapped out in his head. 
 

 

100%.

I’ve done so recently too & the 2 pre season ones from each year.

Not only is it as he said, but the honesty shines through (when he was offered his 3 year deal he said that results had been “terrible”).

His clarity & gravitas are very impressive, of course he repeats phrases (we all do) but he’s such a good appointment for a club that has made some frankly utterly incredible ones.
 

 

Edited September 4, 2022 by GrahamC

[TV Tom]

52 minutes ago, The Bard said:

He'll stay here.  Unless there is some unwanted ownership interference that will make him think 'why am I bothering?'

However, you would hope that the work done so far means that will not happen.  

That leads me to think, if we stay in contention at the top of the table, surely the sale of the club becomes likely.  It would be typical for the Lansdowns to sell to someone who then undermines Nige and he jumps ship.  

Give SL a bit of credit, he did appoint Pearson and stuck with him during some right dross when many, many other chairmen would of got rid

[Superjack]

13 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Good posts on their forum @Superjack

Thank you.

Didn't want them getting too excited in case their board starts listening.

[Sheltons Army]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

SL had been with Green Flag, that was the problem!

Ha ha , like it

 

I heard he’d been impressed by Jon’s friend at college who had done several courses and had told SL that he could have the Bentley doing 0-60 in 4 secs whilst doing 85 mpg , all he would need is a few parts 

Apparently initially the Bentley spluttered a bit , then ran ok for a bit , even though the new parts didn’t seem to last long , but then began to break down regularly , no pleasure to drive , and despite the repeated parts changing and ridiculous bills incurred  , had lost complete value or usefulness