Robbored Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Rangers 1 Liverpool 7……….……….and Liverpool hammered them with half their team missing. Even more evidence that the Scottish Premier is of poor quality and has always been a two horse race - consequently neither Glasgow clubs hold their own in the Champions League. That’s both of them out of the competition. I can’t wait to listen to TS later this morning. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Not sure why you’d expect anything different really - they simply don’t have the money to be remotely competitive against a side with Liverpool’s resources. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Both scottish teams out the champions leauge after a few weeks, even notradamus wouldnt have forseen that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Two birds with one stones this time, very impressive Robbo Yes we know you love Liverpool and hate Scottish football 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Tbf he has a point. Liverpòol cant buy a point with their best 11 in the leauge right now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, Robbored said: Rangers 1 Liverpool 7……….……….and Liverpool hammered them with half their team missing. Even more evidence that the Scottish Premier is of poor quality and has always been a two horse race - consequently neither Glasgow clubs hold their own in the Champions League. That’s both of them out of the competition. I can’t wait to listen to TS later this morning. Bit odd, I don’t think anyone thinks otherwise? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, Robbored said: Rangers 1 Liverpool 7……….……….and Liverpool hammered them with half their team missing. Even more evidence that the Scottish Premier is of poor quality and has always been a two horse race - consequently neither Glasgow clubs hold their own in the Champions League. That’s both of them out of the competition. I can’t wait to listen to TS later this morning. You seem obsessed with Scottish football 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, harrys said: You seem obsessed with Scottish football Not obsessed, irritated by it tho when pundits rave on about unbeaten runs or wins as if it means something. The only real test that the Old Firm have is when they play each other. Personally I’d like to see both Glasgow clubs playing in the English Leagues - never going to happen tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not obsessed, irritated by it tho when pundits rave on about unbeaten runs or wins as if it means something. The only real test that the Old Firm have is when they play each other. Personally I’d like to see both Glasgow clubs playing in the English Leagues - never going to happen tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 There is a world of difference between the PL and SPL finance being the main one. Rangers did superbly last season to reach a major final but would always struggle against the better teams in Europe. I would guess that not one Rangers player would get into the Liverpool Squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Robbored said: Not obsessed, irritated by it tho when pundits rave on about unbeaten runs or wins as if it means something. The only real test that the Old Firm have is when they play each other. Personally I’d like to see both Glasgow clubs playing in the English Leagues - never going to happen tho. And what league would they come in to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 The downs leauge 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Super said: And what league would they come in to? There's 2 parts to that question. In terms of fairness, they can't just go into the Prem In terms of competitiveness, I've no doubt if Rangers and/or Celtic were in the Prem with that big money they'd be as big a pull as any of the top clubs for top players 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, MarcusX said: There's 2 parts to that question. In terms of fairness, they can't just go into the Prem In terms of competitiveness, I've no doubt if Rangers and/or Celtic were in the Prem with that big money they'd be as big a pull as any of the top clubs for top players Absolutely right and there’s a third question - what would happen to the Scottish Premier without the Old Firm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 When Nottingham Forest spend more than the entire Eredivisie and the total Premier League net spend is over a billion, you have to question if there already is a super league. It's certainly not fair to compare Scottish football to English 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Super said: And what league would they come in to? 14 minutes ago, Robbored said: Absolutely right and there’s a third question - what would happen to the Scottish Premier without the Old Firm? The entire Scottish (and Welsh and N Irish) leagues should be absorbed into the English League system. Which should then be renamed and rebranded to be the United Kingdom Football League. The top level of each regional league should sit alongside the current National Leagues North and South, and then each of those five leagues - the English North and South, the Scottish, the Welsh, and the N Irish, get one team promoted into the National League each season. The lower leagues of Scotland, Wales and N Ireland continue to operate to feed teams into the National League. At each step above this level I would increase promotion and relegation by 1. Basically properly integrate it all into a single national League system. Then let Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, TNS, Linfield and the rest find their place within the system. Simultaneously the regional FAs become true regional FAs under the current English FA. As ana side I'd also generally dispense with the 4 national sides and amalgamate a single UK side for all international competitions. I am well aware that this will not happen. Edited October 13, 2022 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Didn’t the second best team in Scotland go further in the Europa League last year than any English team, just to play Devil’s advocate? Still not a bad achievement. Agree Scottish league is dull though, when only 2 teams ever win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Agree Scottish league is dull though, when only 2 teams ever win it. Yet hundreds of thousands watch the championship.... Where every season at least 2 of the 3 teams going up will be from the 3 that came down the previous season... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, steveybadger said: Didn’t the second best team in Scotland go further in the Europa League last year than any English team, just to play Devil’s advocate? Still not a bad achievement. Agree Scottish league is dull though, when only 2 teams ever win it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Super said: There is a world of difference between the PL and SPL finance being the main one. Rangers did superbly last season to reach a major final but would always struggle against the better teams in Europe. I would guess that not one Rangers player would get into the Liverpool Squad. Just listened to Simon Jordan discussing this on Talksport. In 3 premier league games Liverpool receive as much money as do the entire Scottish Premiership over an entire season. Liverpool's total revenues are on the region of £500m pa while Rangers' is around £60m. A gulf in class is therefore hardly a surprise! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Rangers 1 Liverpool 7……….……….and Liverpool hammered them with half their team missing. Even more evidence that the Scottish Premier is of poor quality and has always been a two horse race - consequently neither Glasgow clubs hold their own in the Champions League. That’s both of them out of the competition. I can’t wait to listen to TS later this morning. And there was me thinking this was going to be about Danny Wilson and Gary Johnson…. Or Bristol City and Preston…… was you there last night @Robbored? But **** me oh no. It’s another of your favourites. Isn’t Thursday early Post Office day to get your pension? Where’s that emoji you like? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, BigAl&Toby said: Isn’t Thursday early Post Office day to get your pension? Where’s that emoji you Both my pensions are paid into my account automatically - no need to collect cash on a weekly basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I got my wages today. Took out a tenner then i gave it away to a stranger. Did this 4 times un ten minutes. Got refered to the dr. He says i have withdraw synptons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Not a Liverpool fan or any Prem team tbh, but I have to say when I heard the score I pissed myself laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I don’t know what’s expected of these teams, football is now geared up for 3 divisions and 1 other team who have a lot of money. How does anyone expect rangers or Celtic to complete in the CL? They may get the odd good result but overall they don’t have the finance to compete. And it’s not like Liverpool and Man City have not done this in the Premier league either is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbored said: Rangers 1 Liverpool 7……….……….and Liverpool hammered them with half their team missing. Even more evidence that the Scottish Premier is of poor quality and has always been a two horse race - consequently neither Glasgow clubs hold their own in the Champions League. That’s both of them out of the competition. I can’t wait to listen to TS later this morning. Not this again! If Rangers or Celtic were in the English leagues they would have the same money as the English teams have and therefore would attract top players and would be two huge clubs. Scottish football doesn't get the same finances so they don't get the top players so they aren't as good. Seems some people think being Scottish makes them somehow inferior to the English, when it's obviously all about the money 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick jones of hereford Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 I would be appalled at the two Glasgow clubs being allowed into the Premiership. It would make it even more difficult for the likes of Bristol City to make it to the top tier. Perhaps more importantly the two Glasgow clubs playing in England would exponentially increase issues of disorder & crowd control. Fans from both clubs perpetuate sectarian hatred with their vile songs and lack of mutual respect. There’s nothing wrong with local rivalry, but the sectarian hatred is not something we want within the top English league. I remind myself that Berwick is in England but plays in the Scottish league - curiously their fans were banned from displaying English flags at away matches. it is appreciated that there’s rivalry between English & Welsh clubs and people - but generally it’s little more than that. Both societally and in football terms, it would be a retrograde step to allow the Glasgow clubs into English football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockneydave Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: The entire Scottish (and Welsh and N Irish) leagues should be absorbed into the English League system. Which should then be renamed and rebranded to be the United Kingdom Football League. The top level of each regional league should sit alongside the current National Leagues North and South, and then each of those five leagues - the English North and South, the Scottish, the Welsh, and the N Irish, get one team promoted into the National League each season. The lower leagues of Scotland, Wales and N Ireland continue to operate to feed teams into the National League. At each step above this level I would increase promotion and relegation by 1. Basically properly integrate it all into a single national League system. Then let Rangers, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, TNS, Linfield and the rest find their place within the system. Simultaneously the regional FAs become true regional FAs under the current English FA. As ana side I'd also generally dispense with the 4 national sides and amalgamate a single UK side for all international competitions. I am well aware that this will not happen. Be great to pop up to Aberdeen for an evening match.!! Hard enough getting across Bristol some of the time!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Dunno about now lulsgate used to fly to aberdeen. You probaly could get there quicker, than some routes to the gate is the mad thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Robbored said: Not obsessed, irritated by it tho when pundits rave on about unbeaten runs or wins as if it means something. The only real test that the Old Firm have is when they play each other. Personally I’d like to see both Glasgow clubs playing in the English Leagues - never going to happen tho. NO, NO THRICE NO. Why so that we stand even less chance to get there? Just because three Welsh clubs have been there for more than 100 years doesn't mean that we should turn the top tier into a British Premier League to satisfy two clubs from a country where a significant number of citizens want to be independent from GB/England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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