MrRedRobin Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Was very good at commanding his area today. Hope he will be able to keep it up. No actual saves to make today but came out a few times to claim the ball. In previous games has been solid apart from that little misunderstanding between him and Kalas. (Whether it was his fault or not I don't know) Keep it up Max . 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 The one when he came out to claim the ball on the (his) left of the area in the second half was great, he` was getting that ball no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 As a side issue, how long can a keeper keep the ball in hand? Max must take it to the limit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, marmite said: As a side issue, how long can a keeper keep the ball in hand? Max must take it to the limit. I posted on the match day thread that he was getting away with it because Obafemi was crowding him every time. I`ve no idea why he was doing it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 I counted on one occasion using the big screen....25 seconds one time...he needs to be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 And second half when he came well out if his area. I reckon Capn Dan might be moving on (up - great half time track) in January. Might provide a bit of cash and free up wages. Wouldn’t be a big loss if you ask me… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, marmite said: As a side issue, how long can a keeper keep the ball in hand? Max must take it to the limit. If Obafemi keeps moving then the ref is gonna allow the keeper as much time as he likes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 The two that impressed me were the claim at the back post when he came a long way to do so & the calm header when he was well out of his area. They didn’t exactly put him under much pressure but his handling was very steady today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, The Humble Realist said: I counted on one occasion using the big screen....25 seconds one time...he needs to be careful Why? All rhe ref will do is tell him to hurry up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 He does look far more comfortable coming for the ball. Punched and gathered well today. Out of interest, is he taller than Bentley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Bentley Vs Max as shot stopper is open to question. Bentley Vs Max 1V1, I lean to Bents. When it comes to crosses, commanding his area and distribution I've always thought Max was better. I thought he was very good today, claimed what he could, punched what he couldn't claim and was quick off of his line. Very decisive when he needed to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Considering the possession they had he really had little to do. He did well and had no chance with the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 This is Max’s best spell in the team…ever. It’s only 5 games, but at this point he appears to have grasped the nettle. Maybe he finally is thinking like a no1? Maybe he can genuinely see it’s his shirt, not just a stop gap. I’m not a huge fan of his distribution, but he seems up to speed with the game in this spell. I hope he continues this progress / form. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: This is Max’s best spell in the team…ever. It’s only 5 games, but at this point he appears to have grasped the nettle. Maybe he finally is thinking like a no1? Maybe he can genuinely see it’s his shirt, not just a stop gap. I’m not a huge fan of his distribution, but he seems up to speed with the game in this spell. I hope he continues this progress / form. There was one superb ping to Sykes first half that had he controlled we were in tbf. Agree with the point that he has to think and believe like a No.1 keeper. That’s the key, he needs to add that arrogance that says it’s my shirt and back it up with continued good performances like todays. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: This is Max’s best spell in the team…ever. It’s only 5 games, but at this point he appears to have grasped the nettle. Maybe he finally is thinking like a no1? Maybe he can genuinely see it’s his shirt, not just a stop gap. I’m not a huge fan of his distribution, but he seems up to speed with the game in this spell. I hope he continues this progress / form. I've always said he's never felt like the long term answer, just waiting for that mistake and then Bentley would be back in. However, like you said something feels a bit different this time, seems to be an extra level of confidence there. No idea what conversations have happened behind the scenes but maybe he's been told it's his spot until the World Cup so make a claim for the first game after 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Humble Realist Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: Why? All rhe ref will do is tell him to hurry up Yeah but why take the risk that a picky ref gives a free kick.. We would have no complaints if they did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: This is Max’s best spell in the team…ever. It’s only 5 games, but at this point he appears to have grasped the nettle. Maybe he finally is thinking like a no1? Maybe he can genuinely see it’s his shirt, not just a stop gap. I’m not a huge fan of his distribution, but he seems up to speed with the game in this spell. I hope he continues this progress / form. He's certainly an upgrade distribution wise on Bents though in my eyes. Hits the players with a much better accuracy, alongside not having that annoying back spin to every ball thay Bents seems to kick. This causes the kick to hang in the area a lot longer, and be significantly less effective 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 Another along with the likes of Vyner that some of our fans are happy to put the “not a championship player” tag on them. I don’t get what’s hard to understand about a player not only training every day but also playing regular championship football that there’s a pretty good chance they’ll Improve. Maybe they won’t improve enough maybe they’ll improve so much they’ll be premier league players. But to just write them off after a handful of games like that’s as good as they’ll ever be seems so odd to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, GrahamC said: The two that impressed me were the claim at the back post when he came a long way to do so & the calm header when he was well out of his area. They didn’t exactly put him under much pressure but his handling was very steady today. I stand to be corrected but I think Max started out as a CB. Had a decent game today and I for one found the way Max distributed the ball much less stressful than watching us play out from the six yard box, I know it’s the modern way but it puts me on edge every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 The key stat for me is that “shot stopping liner” Bentley has conceded 21 goals in 13 league games whereas Max who isn’t as good a shot stopper (Bentley is a very good shot stopper tbf) but is far more willing to put his cock on the block and get amongst the high balls has conceded 6 in 5. There’s more than one way to skin a cat and if you come out and catch crosses or punch them away and do it well then there is often not as much that needs saving!! Not saying Max has “arrived” yet but I would argue that with our obvious lack of aerial domination at the back the team is better defensively for having a positive keeper over a liner. Whether it is Max, Bagic or A N Other that is what we need right now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Both goalkeeper's stats so far this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Whether it is Max, Bagic or A N Other that is what we need right now. "Could it be Bagic?" Well, there's his song sorted out.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Defence does seem more stable as a whole, perhaps more confidence exuded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Both goalkeeper's stats so far this season. A Lee Johnson spreadsheet if ever I saw one. Get those percentiles up on Power Point and add the "Bomb Alley Co-Efficient" and I think they've nailed it. The stat that really matters, ultimately, is Goals Against. I am guarded using stats as the sole basis of argument as sample sizes vary, they often only tell the picture at the moment in time, and they rarely add context. You have to do that yourself. A Goalkeeper could have great stats in a dominant team where his work is relatively easy (you could have a save record of 92% comprising mainly of pea rollers and you hardly get a difficult shot to save like Swansea's goal yesterday) but put that same keeper behind our back three and the "percentiles" might change dramatically. However, you can reasonably compare stats from keepers at the same club because the variables are very similar to both keepers - same players in front of them, same style of play, same method of defending corners and set pieces, same team strengths and weaknesses etc. etc. For those who love stats the current difference between the two relates to 19-20 goals per season - how many additional points might that be? Interestingly the current stats for Crosses Stopped and Defensive Actions Outside the Penalty Area seem to back up what Pearson is saying about Max's positivity in comparison to Bentley but also back up those who say Bentley is a better shot stopper. This ultimately proves the point that for all the stats and spreadsheets what we see with our own eyes is often what the stats are also saying. However, that's also why scouts exist in addition to scouting reports - someone needs to physically check that what the stats are saying is real. Edited October 30, 2022 by Numero Uno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Nothing detrimental to Bentley but I am guessing that NP is not over enamored by his inability to use the ball quickly. And also the fact that he stays rooted on the line from crosses. Max is getting a chance now and Bajic will be pushing for the number one spot before we realise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 If Max can establish himself as our No 1, and this French kiddie is as good as has been reported, getting Bents off the books next summer opens the possibility of bringing in a quality outfield player. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Malago said: If Max can establish himself as our No 1, and this French kiddie is as good as has been reported, getting Bents off the books next summer opens the possibility of bringing in a quality outfield player. Looks like that is the plan if Max can make himself no1 over Bentley. Until this batch of games I’ve been totally happy with my view that Bents is the better keeper, but Max is changing my mind. He appears to be a “different” keeper in this spell, much more confident and decisive. Really hope he takes his chance. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Threw some turf at us yesterday, he apologised after, played well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Threw some turf at us yesterday, he apologised after, played well Where there's blame there's a claim........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: He appears to be a “different” keeper in this spell, much more confident and decisive. Really hope he takes his chance. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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