beaverface Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, Riaz said: I think changing the policy from signing young hungry players to attempting to go for it a bit, is where we went wrong. We sold Flint Bryan and Reid the same summer and started signing slightly older players on high wages - that was a mistake IMO Was that the summer when LJ was coming out with quotes saying he needs backing to take us to the next level? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Losing Josh Brownhill in that January window killed off LJ. Selling off his best players every year combined with poor recruitment would kill any manager, particularly in the Championship where there is a massive gap in finances from the haves (parachute payment receivers) and the have nots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Must. Not. Enter. Debate. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Edit: **** it. I can’t help it. Already showing signs of this… Every successful incoming/outgoing: Well done LJ - absolute masterclass. Every unsuccessful incoming/outgoing: Dam you Ashton. Horrible toad. Edited June 7, 2023 by Fordy62 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, Fordy62 said: Already showing signs of this… Every successful incoming/outgoing: Well done LJ - absolute masterclass. Every unsuccessful incoming/outgoing: Dam you Ashton. Horrible toad. Well I give credit to both for the first half of their stint. And think they are both at fault for how it downhill south after. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Fordy Willpower levels! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 40 minutes ago, beaverface said: Was that the summer when LJ was coming out with quotes saying he needs backing to take us to the next level? Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Edit: **** it. I can’t help it. Already showing signs of this… Every successful incoming/outgoing: Well done LJ - absolute masterclass. Every unsuccessful incoming/outgoing: Dam you Ashton. Horrible toad. Of course that’s ridiculous. (Not that I’m aware of anyone on here who holds quite such an extreme view). It’s just as ridiculous as “LJ was a complete disaster and never did anything good in his whole time with us”. (Of which there are one or two!) LJ had his strengths and his weaknesses. He gave us good times as well as bad. Just like any manager has. Ashton had his strengths too: he was more adept at cashing in on our assets than anyone else I can remember. (Although he was a horrible toad too!) But (my view) the dynamics have to work, the competing objectives have to work, and for their last year or two together (Johnson and Ashton) they didn’t. And SL didn’t seem to be able to sort that out and (for example) be clear that ultimately LJs footballing objectives had to take priority over the financial objectives. LJ once talked about writing a book one day about what was going on behind the scenes - and there was lots of speculation about what he meant. My money is that much of it was about that conflict. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 One of the main downfalls of LJ/MA as a pair was that they had different attitudes to signing players, LJ naturally wanted players that would get us to the play offs, MA wanted players we could sell for profit and therefore they’re never truly aligned in their aims, it caused us to sign too many players Szmodics, Eisa etc where LJ never truly wanted them but still meant we had to sign more for the ones who he did want. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 10:51, Davefevs said: Fair. We had a right mixed bag under Lee…good and bad. But his bad spell still wasnt as bad as other manager’s bad spells. So Lee even misses out on being the best ‘ worst manager.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Lee Johnson was an OK manager or rather coach. It's the people above him who screwed the wage structure up, and then appointed his assistant after a rigorous process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 39 minutes ago, italian dave said: But (my view) the dynamics have to work, the competing objectives have to work, and for their last year or two together (Johnson and Ashton) they didn’t. And SL didn’t seem to be able to sort that out and (for example) be clear that ultimately LJs footballing objectives had to take priority over the financial objectives. LJ once talked about writing a book one day about what was going on behind the scenes - and there was lots of speculation about what he meant. My money is that much of it was about that conflict. Lot of sense in that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Lost 2-1 today to an Andorran side in the preliminary round of the Europa Conference league. Firstly I can never recall a side from Andorra winning any game in Europe & secondly their subs included Jojo Wollacott (who will get his chance soon based on the error made by their keeper) & Jamie McAllister’s son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritAbroad Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Wonder how much longer they will give LJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Hibernian have just lost their ECL qualifier to a team from Andorra. Some Hibs fans on Twitter saying it’s the worst result in their modern history. Do a good thing, followed up something terrible, seems to sum up LJ’s managerial career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, petehinton said: Hibernian have just lost their ECL qualifier to a team from Andorra. Some Hibs fans on Twitter saying it’s the worst result in their modern history. Do a good thing, followed up something terrible, seems to sum up LJ’s managerial career. Second leg to come. My man’s got this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Park Reds Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 My bet there wasn’t enough box entries or some other bollocks or lack off. A smug charlatan imho.I did enjoy the Man Utd game as I did the Liverpool fa cup games with Osman. He should be an youth coach where some kids might believe his shite.Either that or sell used cars or double glazing.Absolute **** with the money he had and wasted at our club. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, BritAbroad said: Wonder how much longer they will give LJ. Who cares? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Who cares? Bitch! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Terrible result for Johnson and Hibs, however, you'd fancy them to turn it around at Easter Road next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Excellent, another thread about to be ruined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Lost 2-1 today to an Andorran side in the preliminary round of the Europa Conference league. Firstly I can never recall a side from Andorra winning any game in Europe & secondly their subs included Jojo Wollacott (who will get his chance soon based on the error made by their keeper) & Jamie McAllister’s son. I watched it. Small ground - one stand - had the air of a preseason match. Hibs had been training in Spain. Maybe we're spoiled but the quality was nothing like what we see in the the preseason highlights, players struggling to pick a pass. The main Hibs threat was coming from their continually used right back's long throw. You'd never have known that one of the managers was one of the up and coming coaching geniuses - and if you were told you'd never have guessed he was managing Hibs! He's been sussed though - from their forum: 'will still be grinning from ear to ear giving his post match interviews where he will blame everything and everybody other than himself.' Edited July 27, 2023 by Red Exile 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 38 minutes ago, BritAbroad said: Wonder how much longer they will give LJ. Shocking manager,, he probably had some high level technical approach all laid out that no one can understand so they got beaten, its not his fault, it’s everyone elses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 39 minutes ago, petehinton said: Hibernian have just lost their ECL qualifier to a team from Andorra. Some Hibs fans on Twitter saying it’s the worst result in their modern history. Do a good thing, followed up something terrible, seems to sum up LJ’s managerial career. It was only the first leg, and only by the odd goal. They need to calm down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 There’s certainly no denying how obsessed with LJ some City fans are. No fewer than three of the top 7 threads on our football forum at the moment are talking about a manager who left us more than three years ago. 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 A thread for the LJ Sub forum! But no one listens to me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, italian dave said: There’s certainly no denying how obsessed with LJ some City fans are. No fewer than three of the top 7 threads on our football forum at the moment are talking about a manager who left us more than three years ago. I wouldn't say it was an obsession, but rather the satisfaction that comes with being able to say 'told you'. More seriously - in modern times he was a hugely consequential Bristol City manager, given the keys to the kingdom, always a divisive appointment, wasn't up to the job but was given what seemed like an age to prove himself, squandered the opportunity, left us in a mess. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Purely out of interest where was it played. Was it at the Estadi Nacional on an artificial surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 Rent free 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Excellent, another thread about to be ruined. We already gave the LJ thread. So need to merge the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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