Mr Popodopolous Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) A tale of two penalties. Others can put the clips back together again but that Sunderland account deleted it for some reason. Now personally I don't think ours was and the same with Sunderland's, but if one is both are. The one that tbh was maybe maybe maybe not v Watford in November. No penalty. Set against Sunderland's today. Fry was the last man so the straight red makes sense but the penalty calls are remarkably similar. One was given... Edited January 22, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: A tale of two penalties. Others can put the clips back together again but that Sunderland account deleted it for some reason. Now personally I don't think ours was and the same with Sunderland's, but if one is both are. The one that tbh was maybe maybe maybe not v Watford in November. No penalty. Set against Sunderland's today. Fry was the last man so the straight red makes sense but the penalty calls are remarkably similar. One was given... Nowhere near the box for a start 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Nowhere near the box for a start Which one? Both very much begun outside the box granted. Don't think either was a penalty for a start. Both either are or aren't. Edited January 22, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 34 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Which one? Both very much begun outside the box granted. Don't think either was a penalty for a start. Both either are or aren't. Sunderlands started and finished well outside the box, very strange decision if it was even a foul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 22, 2023 Report Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Lew-T said: Just found this brilliant thread… I’d argue 80% of those are stonewallers… Some stonewall, some more subjective. However even with the subjective ones, you'd normally expect to get at least a couple of them purely by law of averages. Also eagerly awaiting one of the usual contrarians to come on and explain that every single one of those was correctly not given, because reasons. Edited January 22, 2023 by Northern Red 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 Been that long now the last penalty was 2007, and meatloaf got that for singing till 1030; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Been that long now the last penalty was 2007, and meatloaf got that for singing till 1030; I’ve told you a million times, do not exaggerate…. does feel like it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Northern Red said: Some stonewall, some more subjective. However even with the subjective ones, you'd normally expect to get at least a couple of them purely by law of averages. Also eagerly awaiting one of the usual contrarians to come on and explain that every single one of those was correctly not given, because reasons. Your first comment is accurate. Yes with your second comment, in respect of one or two. Luckily I’m not paying them between 8 and 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Posted January 23, 2023 Report Share Posted January 23, 2023 20 hours ago, Davefevs said: 2) it’s not scientific to use lines from feet. Exactly, it’s the furthest forward point of his body that is able to be used in the act of goalscoring. If his hand was ahead of the defender but the rest of his arm / body was behind it would be onside because you can’t score with your hand. A defenders hand can be used as a goal can be deflected off of a hand. Bell’s body is ahead of his feet, so the line must be drawn vertically down…and therefore he is just ahead of the RB marking Wells. Offside! Yeah that was what I was trying to say above - close, but you can imagine the VAR would be something like this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Adrian Chiles is on the case on Radio 5. Mentions it every week and spent 5 minutes on it just now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Darkwood Red Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Adrian Chiles is on the case on Radio 5. Mentions it every week and spent 5 minutes on it just now. Just listened to it, shame it also involved those two welsh idiots Elis James and John Robins, theirs is the worst program on British Radio bar none 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambo Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, A Darkwood Red said: Just listened to it, shame it also involved those two welsh idiots Elis James and John Robins, theirs is the worst program on British Radio bar none John Robins is from Bristol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Darkwood Red Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 Is he? To be fair, he doesn't sound like it but then i can't listen to them on the radio and instantly turn them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 27, 2023 Report Share Posted January 27, 2023 6 hours ago, A Darkwood Red said: Just listened to it, shame it also involved those two welsh idiots Elis James and John Robins, theirs is the worst program on British Radio bar none At least James is a proper football fan and has some insight into what being a diehard fan of a perennially underachieving club is all about. I quite like him TBF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 I made a site that pulls data automatically every day from across Europe so you can see the very latest view of how bad our penalty record actually is. Sorry. http://nopen.co.uk 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 And in the mean time James Tavernier scores his 49th!!!!!!! pen for Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 29, 2023 Report Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Olé said: I made a site that pulls data automatically every day from across Europe so you can see the very latest view of how bad our penalty record actually is. Sorry. http://nopen.co.uk Excellent work @Olé This highlights it beautifully, the first graph is staggering in particular. What was that stat where we were rhe worst in Europe's top however many Leagues over a given period. Possibly per expected goals and this was a year ago! Send it to Dean Eldredge maybe if you haven't already, NP's agent seemed interested online in the last week or 2 (Twitter). Edited January 29, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) Was just having a read of a Reddit thread on this. Some of the ignorance of wilful ignorance of fans of clubs comparing penalty records is laughable.. Examples- LEAGUE ONLY Reading fan bemoaning a lack of pens 2021-22...4 for. 2022-23...7 and counting. Had they played like a cross between Fulham last year, Burnley this year, Bielsa Leeds and Nuno Wolves then maybe but they're nothing like that, they're probably in a similar rate or creation to us over this and last season. Blackpool fan bemoaning a lack of pens 2021-22...7 for. 2022-23...1 and counting. I think they are not a terrible side to watch and under Critchley were decent but 7:1 fold?? Luton fan bemoaning a lack of pens 2021-22...6 for. 2022-22...1 and counting. I wasn't aware Luton were sharp and creative, they have their moments but by some metrics they were very similar to us last year albeit maybe some good runners. It's one thing not to know ours but to plead poverty for their own when being spectacularly wrong?? Edited February 6, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) May as well also update: League only 0 in 58 games and counting. All competitive games 0 in 65 games and counting. Days since last one to present 457 days and counting. Let alone the longer records of League and Cup, gap between, last since home, last since we got one in front of home fans etc. Edited February 6, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Was just having a read of a Reddit thread on this. Some of the ignorance of wilful ignorance of fans of clubs comparing penalty records is laughable.. Examples- LEAGUE ONLY Reading fan bemoaning a lack of pens 2021-22...4 for. 2022-23...7 and counting. Had they played like a cross between Fulham last year, Burnley this year, Bielsa Leeds and Nuno Wolves then maybe but they're nothing like that, they're probably in a similar rate or creation to us over this and last season. Blackpool fan bemoaning a lack of pens 2021-22...7 for. 2022-23...1 and counting. I think they are not a terrible side to watch and under Critchley were decent but 7:1 fold?? Luton fan bemoaning a lack of pens 2021-22...6 for. 2022-22...1 and counting. I wasn't aware Luton were sharp and creative, they have their moments but by some metrics they were very similar to us last year albeit maybe some good runners. It's one thing not to know ours but to plead poverty for their own when being spectacularly wrong?? The latest Reading pen was soft for a push on Shane long and typifies the penalties we don't get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: May as well also update: League only 0 in 58 games and counting. All competitive games 0 in 65 games and counting. Days since last one to present 457 days and counting. Let alone the longer records of League and Cup, gap between, last since home, last since we got one in front of home fans etc. The all time record run with no penalty, so far as these things are recorded, appears to be Port Vale's 72 matches, but I can't tell if this is league matches only or not. Either way we are closing in..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, richwwtk said: The all time record run with no penalty, so far as these things are recorded, appears to be Port Vale's 72 matches, but I can't tell if this is league matches only or not. Either way we are closing in..... Port Vale was reported as 'competitive games', so same as us. I hadn't realised they acheived this just last year. I think they actually won a penalty shoot out during that time though which is odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 1 hour ago, mozo said: Port Vale was reported as 'competitive games', so same as us. I hadn't realised they acheived this just last year. I think they actually won a penalty shoot out during that time though which is odd. They also broke their drought with two penalties in the same game! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: May as well also update: League only 0 in 58 games and counting. All competitive games 0 in 65 games and counting. Days since last one to present 457 days and counting. Let alone the longer records of League and Cup, gap between, last since home, last since we got one in front of home fans etc. So, the game where we'll set a new record (all competitive games) will be Blackpool. Live on TV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 Samuel Pepys reported our last penalty in his diary! 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 2 hours ago, italian dave said: So, the game where we'll set a new record (all competitive games) will be Blackpool. Live on TV! I'd actually be shouting "no pen, ref!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 I'm going to be well annoyed if we get a penalty soon, and don't break all the records. We're so close, it'll be a shame if we fall short 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: I'm going to be well annoyed if we get a penalty soon, and don't break all the records. We're so close, it'll be a shame if we fall short You know we will fall one short and will miss it. Worse, everyone will know it should never have been given, as TV replays will conclusively show Subsequently the referee's boss will send us a letter of apology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 11 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: The latest Reading pen was soft for a push on Shane long and typifies the penalties we don't get. Reading will always win plenty of penalties with Shane Long & Tom Ince in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2023 Report Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, harrys said: Reading will always win plenty of penalties with Shane Long & Tom Ince in the team Although a very quick check suggests that those two have only won one each this season so..site could be wrong of course but 7 for a midtable moderate side is quite something. Divisional high in fact! Edited February 6, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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