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pillred

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4 hours ago, JackiDziekanowski said:

Just knocked this up quickly for those, who like me can't believe the stat.... Surely this will guarantee a Penalty on Boxing Day!

https://bristolcitypenalty.co.uk/

The law of averages is just that, I once span number 32 4 times in a row when I worked in a casino it cost them thousands, the odds on it happening are nearly two million to one but just occasionally these anomaly's happen, live long enough and we might even be awarded a penalty in 4 successive games, IT will happen one day.

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JackiDziekanowski

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8 hours ago, pillred said:

The law of averages is just that, I once span number 32 4 times in a row when I worked in a casino it cost them thousands, the odds on it happening are nearly two million to one but just occasionally these anomaly's happen, live long enough and we might even be awarded a penalty in 4 successive games, IT will happen one day.

Haha yes! Not one to moan but when you add some of our penalty claims into the mix it really is perplexing - Anyone got that Alex Scott one v QPR to hand?? Beggar's belief!

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Port Said Red

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9 hours ago, pillred said:

The law of averages is just that, I once span number 32 4 times in a row when I worked in a casino it cost them thousands, the odds on it happening are nearly two million to one but just occasionally these anomaly's happen, live long enough and we might even be awarded a penalty in 4 successive games, IT will happen one day.

I think the record I saw was 27 six times, and as I remember no one had a big bet on it.  Long runs of Reds or Blacks were common, but often went without comment unless someone was betting the outside chances. It's something the average punter fails to understand, as a colleague of mine used to say to those who bet based on history. "Don't ask the wheel what the last number was, it doesn't have a memory"

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1960maaan

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2 hours ago, Nomad said:

Who was the last against and did we score? My mathematics tell me is was just before HT after a 3pm kick off.

I think it was Cov away last year, they waited until I went for a Pee. First time for almost 40 years I’d missed a goal. 
typical ?

pillred

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4 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

I think the record I saw was 27 six times, and as I remember no one had a big bet on it.  Long runs of Reds or Blacks were common, but often went without comment unless someone was betting the outside chances. It's something the average punter fails to understand, as a colleague of mine used to say to those who bet based on history. "Don't ask the wheel what the last number was, it doesn't have a memory"

Very true, I used to have people on my tables sit there for ages writing down the numbers that came up, I unfortunately wasn't able to indulge in small talk with the punters or I would have said to them the numbers really do come up randomly, the wheels were tested for accuracy being level etc often and at random times to make sure of complete honesty for the punters, but wow 6 times I bet that croupier was popular with the casino I thought my experience was rare enough.

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cidercity1987

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26 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

It's currently 56 competitive matches without a penalty. I believe the record is 73 matches held by Port Vale. They got two in the match that broke that run!

I'll be well hacked off when we get a pen in the 90th min of the 72nd match when 3-0 down

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downendcity

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34 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

I'll be well hacked off when we get a pen in the 90th min of the 72nd match when 3-0 down

Worse if it's 0-0 and we miss the pen!

marcofisher

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22 hours ago, pillred said:

The law of averages is just that, I once span number 32 4 times in a row when I worked in a casino it cost them thousands, the odds on it happening are nearly two million to one but just occasionally these anomaly's happen, live long enough and we might even be awarded a penalty in 4 successive games, IT will happen one day.

We’re Bristol City; the sun will implode wiping out civilisation as we know it first.

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RedZepperin

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4 hours ago, downendcity said:

We've had 2 monarchs and 3 Prime Minister's since we last got a penalty!

Liz Truss could come and go as prime minister ten times between one Bristol City penalty and the next.

MarcusX

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22 hours ago, pillred said:

Amazed the odds are so low.

Well statistically I guess, how many games we’ve gone since a penalty has no bearing on how likely we are to get one today

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italian dave

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Is that graph still around that shows the number of minutes a club has to play in order to get a penalty? I remember seeing one a few months ago but Incant find where it came from. It looked at clubs throughout Europe.

Because what that showed iirc was that even the 400+ days since Coventry isn’t some freak oddity - we got penalties just as rarely before then too. For quite some time now we’ve been the least likely club in Europe to get a penalty. 

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Mr Popodopolous

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Meanwhile, Reading who I never saw as a wildly free flowing and dangerous side got awarded their 5th of the League season to date. (They missed).

Think that is their 8th in the League since our last one.

8 in 53 League games or 9 from the beginning of last season to present- not bad going at all...like I say not a strongly dangerous or free flowing side.

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Mr Popodopolous

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On 26/12/2022 at 09:47, italian dave said:

Is that graph still around that shows the number of minutes a club has to play in order to get a penalty? I remember seeing one a few months ago but Incant find where it came from. It looked at clubs throughout Europe.

Because what that showed iirc was that even the 400+ days since Coventry isn’t some freak oddity - we got penalties just as rarely before then too. For quite some time now we’ve been the least likely club in Europe to get a penalty. 

That graph will be well off the graph/charts now as thst ran until maybe late 2021 or early 2022!?

We've been awarded zero penalties since then so I dread to think! ?

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GrahamC

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19 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Meanwhile, Reading who I never saw as a wildly free flowing and dangerous side got awarded their 5th of the League season to date. (They missed).

Think that is their 8th in the League since our last one.

8 in 53 League games or 9 from the beginning of last season to present- not bad going at all...like I say not a strongly dangerous or free flowing side.

As we know from a game at our place Tom Ince dives a lot, though..

Mr Popodopolous

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As we know from a game at our place Tom Ince dives a lot, though..

Yes good point, was just pondering how they might win them- skill, running at defences, trickery on the ball- or more like dark arts trickery ie diving?

cockneydave

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Haven’t we had a few apologies fro m refs who said they had got things wrong about not giving us penalties?we could employ spec saves on match days to see if they should be wearing glasses. Normally people say we are biased in thinking about not getting a pen. But then it’s only us not getting them.

Mr Popodopolous

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Cardiff, Hull and Swansea also haven't been awarded a huge number across the last season and a half, ie back to the start of 2021-22 but I think we are dead last.

Certainly an apology letter regarding Hull away in August, penalties at both ends were an issue.

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Caseleyhas2chins

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On 26/12/2022 at 09:47, italian dave said:

Is that graph still around that shows the number of minutes a club has to play in order to get a penalty? I remember seeing one a few months ago but Incant find where it came from. It looked at clubs throughout Europe.

Because what that showed iirc was that even the 400+ days since Coventry isn’t some freak oddity - we got penalties just as rarely before then too. For quite some time now we’ve been the least likely club in Europe to get a penalty. 

Ask Danny Murphy talksport, he said these things always even theirselves out when this was discussed on talksport and particularly us and are lack of penalties ??????

italian dave

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1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

That graph will be well off the graph/charts now as thst ran until maybe late 2021 or early 2022!?

We've been awarded zero penalties since then so I dread to think! ?

At the time I think it was about 1 penalty for every 600 minutes played, over a couple of years, for City. Got to be a lot more than that now - and at the time that was hugely longer than anyone else. 

Mr Popodopolous

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Is now.

League only.

0 in 55 games.

1 in 109 games

League and Cup

0 in 59 games

Or depending on how you measure it.

2 in 117 games if we include the start of November 2020 to present.

Or if it's post Millwall away just under 2 years ago.

1 in 100 games.

League only if we go back to say the start of 2020-21 it is 3 in 118 games and counting. Reading have been awarded 6 in 25 this season alone.

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GrahamC

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6 minutes ago, Greyrobbo said:

What is record games without a pen in professional football? 
Are we getting close? Would be good to celebrate a record.

Port Vale went 70 odd league games without one up until earlier this season.

Bizarrely I think they then got 2 in a game at Derby & have had 4 in total since.

1960maaan

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5 minutes ago, luke_bristol said:

Any shouts for a pen today?

Pring nearly had his shirt pulled off, but managed to get a shot away. We didn't score, headed off the line, so the Ref considered it either advantage played, or just ignored it.

 

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Mr Popodopolous

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Port Vale went 70 odd league games without one up until earlier this season.

Bizarrely I think they then got 2 in a game at Derby & have had 4 in total since.

Yep, 4 in 13 games.

Certainly not checked much but wonder if their drought also extended to Cup games.

sh1t_ref_again

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2 minutes ago, luke_bristol said:

“5 shouts for a penalty” according to some on Facebook 

I have seen replays of the semenyo one from multiple angles several times and looks clear pen, only seen the one on Atkinson a couple of times but also looked a pen 

AppyDAZE

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In know people will disagree, but I feel like we are over-clasiming penalty appeals on the pitch.

There seems a sort of desperation to it and tbh, I'm not sure I saw a nailed-on penalty today.

 

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italian dave

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6 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

In know people will disagree, but I feel like we are over-clasiming penalty appeals on the pitch.

There seems a sort of desperation to it and tbh, I'm not sure I saw a nailed-on penalty today.

 

Agree, but on the law of averages we should be getting some of those “I’ve seen them given” ones. 

Man U’s one v Everton was one we’d never get

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Kodjias Wrist

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5 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

In know people will disagree, but I feel like we are over-clasiming penalty appeals on the pitch.

There seems a sort of desperation to it and tbh, I'm not sure I saw a nailed-on penalty today.

 

But teams get given pens that aren't nailed on all the time. Hell we seen one against us at Hull this season.

Olé

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On 05/01/2023 at 13:35, JackiDziekanowski said:

Updated to now include the penalty we got awarded the time before (Millwall away FA Cup 23rd Jan 2021 I think - Please let me know if I've got this wrong!). Obviously discounting the Forest Green penalty shoot-out....

https://bristolcitypenalty.co.uk/

Little quirk, today marked our 100th game in all competitions since that day at Millwall (I was actually there for Famara's penalty!).

This means we've now officially reached the 1 in 100 games mark (in a competition that hovers around 1 in 10 frequency for award).

And what better way to do it than with just the 3 shouts (Atkinson one looked nailed on to me, Semenyo less so but does on video).

Slack

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3 minutes ago, Superjack said:

We'd only miss them anyway. They must have stopped practicing them at least six months ago.

Wouldn't even blame them if they said they'd forgotten how to take one in the post match interview 

cidercity1987

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Semenyos is as blatent as they come and a clear major error that VAR would change. Pawson pointed to the ball but the defender was no where near. Awful decision.

Atkinson was also a penalty but a little more subjective. Given the major error for the first most humans would definitely give that one following. 

My question is WTF is the crowd doing. Need to get right on the refs back but there is none of that these days

 

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Kodjias Wrist

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Just now, cidercity1987 said:

My question is WTF is the crowd doing. Need to get right on the refs back but there is none of that these days

 

Think some have given up trying but yeah of we could give them shit for the entire game then that might work?

1960maaan

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10 minutes ago, Slack said:

Wouldn't even blame them if they said they'd forgotten how to take one in the post match interview 

Picture the scene.....

Penalty Bristol City, umm the players seem to be wandering around not sure what to do next. They are consulting the bench, but they seem unaware what the next step is ....

The Ref has now given a goal Kick :facepalm:

Shuffle

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11 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Semenyos is as blatent as they come and a clear major error that VAR would change. Pawson pointed to the ball but the defender was no where near. Awful decision.

Atkinson was also a penalty but a little more subjective. Given the major error for the first most humans would definitely give that one following. 

My question is WTF is the crowd doing. Need to get right on the refs back but there is none of that these days

 

The one on Atkinson, Pawson 100% moved whistle to mouth before pulling it away.  Not seen Semenyo one back but thought at time it was a pen.  

Bazooka Joe

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3 minutes ago, spudski said:

Should get this countdown clock on the screens during the games, and I'm sure someone could get a song going about it ??

Okay.

Whilst we're waiting for one ...

Pen will I see you again" - Three Degrees

and if/once we start getting lots of penalties ....

"It's raining pens, hallelujah ! "

 

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East Londoner

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15 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Semenyos is as blatent as they come and a clear major error that VAR would change. Pawson pointed to the ball but the defender was no where near. Awful decision.

Atkinson was also a penalty but a little more subjective. Given the major error for the first most humans would definitely give that one following. 

My question is WTF is the crowd doing. Need to get right on the refs back but there is none of that these days

 

That also highlights how ridiculous it is to have a competition with effectively different rules dependent on whose ground it is. VAR should be at all grounds or no grounds in this competition 

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1960maaan

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1 minute ago, East Londoner said:

That also highlights how ridiculous it is to have a competition with effectively different rules dependent on whose ground it is. VAR should be at all grounds or no grounds in this competition 

I have said from the start, it's a disgrace that just because you are in the Prem and have VAR, you can get a decision that a team from a lower League wouldn't. The whole thing about the FA Cup is that it is the same for every team that enters, it aint now.

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italian dave

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7 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I have said from the start, it's a disgrace that just because you are in the Prem and have VAR, you can get a decision that a team from a lower League wouldn't. The whole thing about the FA Cup is that it is the same for every team that enters, it aint now.

I think I’m right in saying that some games don’t have goal line technology either? 

1960maaan

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1 minute ago, italian dave said:

I think I’m right in saying that some games don’t have goal line technology either? 

I thought that was standard throughout the League now, so I guess that's just non League teams. But I guess that is similar.
At least it would be just Non League Teams playing home that don't have it , so the differences are limited. 

From 1st round you get 32 qualifiers to add to the 72 League teams. So VAR is available at 20 out of 124 clubs, what's the point.
Ref it Old School.

REDOXO

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37 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Semenyos is as blatent as they come and a clear major error that VAR would change. Pawson pointed to the ball but the defender was no where near. Awful decision.

Atkinson was also a penalty but a little more subjective. Given the major error for the first most humans would definitely give that one following. 

My question is WTF is the crowd doing. Need to get right on the refs back but there is none of that these days

 

Yes I’ve mentioned this before. We are so passive at home. 
 

we have no home End but give the away team an entire stand behind the goal. 
 

When you have to label a corner of the ground a singing section that tells you all you need to know about how intimidating it is at AG. 

 

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