Dean smith - Sacked (merged)

[Banjo Island]

Just been sacked by norwich he’ll do

[Rob k]

No better than what we have 

[Lew-T]

He wouldn’t come here.

[richyy66]

Every club will sack a Manager when results and performances have dropped off.  I am not saying we should hire Dean Smith but not so sure why our club are reluctant to get rid. I have supported Pearson since he came and thought he would be a good fit. Its just not working out and think nows the time to say Goodbye to Nige.

He is certainly not doing himself any favours at the minute.

 

[RedorDead BCFC]

Also Shakespeare. Maybe Nige can reform the band again and get him with us. 

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

He wouldn’t come here.

I think he would but not in current circumstances.

[Rob k]

2 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Also Shakespeare. Maybe Nige can reform the band again and get him with us. 

Great point

Hes been crucial to NP in the past 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Rob k

[sh1t_ref_again]

11 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Also Shakespeare. Maybe Nige can reform the band again and get him with us. 

This really could be the trigger to transform?

[BCFCGav]

Dean doesn’t have to be out of a job for long if he doesn’t want to be.

[tin]

Craig Shakespeare’s suddenly available now, I wonder

[One Team]

18 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Also Shakespeare. Maybe Nige can reform the band again and get him with us. 

If NP is staying then this is a great shout. Could be the missing link. 

[Pezo]

23 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said:

Also Shakespeare. Maybe Nige can reform the band again and get him with us. 

But wasn't that recruitment, we've just publicly said how good it is having Tinnion doing that following his success with the academy, are we going to now say that was a mistake before a single transfer window?

[GrahamC]

35 minutes ago, Banjo Island said:

Just been sacked by norwich he’ll do

Let’s get Dyche in, much more ambitious move..

[Rob k]

2 minutes ago, Pezo said:

But wasn't that recruitment, we've just publicly said how good it is having Tinnion doing that following his success with the academy, are we going to now say that was a mistake before a single transfer window?

Shakespeare was his coach/assistant, Walsh was recruitment

[robinforlife2]

Norwich, 5th in the league sack there manager.

Meanwhile here at Bristol City, Nigel Pearson with a 26% win rate, can't win at home, can't play players in their correct positions, seems to be unsackable. 

[CodeRed]

3 minutes ago, Pezo said:

But wasn't that recruitment, we've just publicly said how good it is having Tinnion doing that following his success with the academy, are we going to now say that was a mistake before a single transfer window?

Shakespeare was a coach/assistant under Nige. Steve Walsh was Nige's DoF who did the recruitment (the guy who recommended Mahrez, Vardy etc)

Just now, robinforlife2 said:

Norwich, 5th in the league sack there manager.

Meanwhile here at Bristol City, Nigel Pearson with a 26% win rate, can't win at home, can't play players in their correct positions, seems to be unsackable. 

It's the Lansdown way !

[Redrascal2]

34 minutes ago, richyy66 said:

Every club will sack a Manager when results and performances have dropped off.  I am not saying we should hire Dean Smith but not so sure why our club are reluctant to get rid. I have supported Pearson since he came and thought he would be a good fit. Its just not working out and think nows the time to say Goodbye to Nige.

He is certainly not doing himself any favours at the minute.

 

The reason we keep Managers when they are failing is due to Steve Lansdown. He will keep Pearson until we are in the relegation zone or start getting heavily beaten at home. Otherwise he will let Pearson blunder on and on. 

[GrahamC]

8 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

Norwich, 5th in the league sack there manager.

Meanwhile here at Bristol City, Nigel Pearson with a 26% win rate, can't win at home, can't play players in their correct positions, seems to be unsackable. 

You haven’t heard of parachute payments, have you?

Norwich rightly expect to get promoted every time they go down, their wage bill is £33m & Pukki is on £47k a week.

The only similarity with us is we’re in the same division.

[Kingswoodactor]

15 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Let’s get Dyche in, much more ambitious move..

Dyche favourite for Norwich job now apparently 

[GrahamC]

2 minutes ago, Kingswoodactor said:

Dyche favourite for Norwich job now apparently 

I was being sarcastic, we have as much chance of appointing Dyche (who also hates us) as we do Klopp.

[Davefevs]

16 minutes ago, Rob k said:

Shakespeare was his coach/assistant, Walsh was recruitment

For info, Walsh was also his coach too.  He spent training sessions on the grass with Nige and CS.  As did Rennie too.  Walsh had Mackenzie doing the technical scouting.  I honestly don’t know what actual scouting they had.

[megansdad]

21 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

Norwich, 5th in the league sack there manager.

Meanwhile here at Bristol City, Nigel Pearson with a 26% win rate, can't win at home, can't play players in their correct positions, seems to be unsackable. 

Norwich with benefit of huge parachute monies in a slightly different situation to ours with FFP issues I would suggest

[Davefevs]

6 minutes ago, megansdad said:

Norwich with benefit of huge parachute monies in a slightly different situation to ours with FFP issues I would suggest

Indeed!

They posted a profit in 2021 that wipes out the loss of 2022, let alone FFP allowable losses and Covid allowances.  They have huge FFP headroom and a good squad too, inc two players that cost £10m combined in the summer.

[Bris Red]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I think he would but not in current circumstances.

You are right he wouldn’t come here now with the dire financial situation we are in.
 

I’ve said it many times before on this forum but when are stock was at the highest it has been in long long time (2017 to the summer of 2019 ish) we could have had the pick of many managers IMO.
 

As we all know the Lansdown family spectacularly backed the wrong Horse in the Ashton/Johnson regime and let the numpties spunk away millions and millions. We now find ourselves in the situation we are in.

[marcofisher]

More chance of Delia Smith

[cheddarwedlocker]

Sacked by Norwich. Right decision?

Didnt realise there was another thread, my bad

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by OliOTIB

[WarksRobin]

Craig Shakespeare too

 

[David Brent]

Ummm…we have a manager already 

[Merrick's Marvels]

1 hour ago, robinforlife2 said:

Norwich, 5th in the league sack there manager.

Meanwhile here at Bristol City, Nigel Pearson with a 26% win rate, can't win at home, can't play players in their correct positions, seems to be unsackable. 

Yes, because the ambitions of both clubs, the problems their managers are trying to resolve, and their ability to address those problems, are so similar aren't they? 

**** me. 

[Robbored]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Let’s get Dyche in, much more ambitious move..

Dyche plays even more drab football than GJ.

Edited December 27, 2022 by Robbored

[Fuber]

3 hours ago, Pezo said:

But wasn't that recruitment, we've just publicly said how good it is having Tinnion doing that following his success with the academy, are we going to now say that was a mistake before a single transfer window?

Recruitment was Walsh - CS was Nige's assistant at Hull and Leicester.

[Talk Of The Town]

Brutal being sacked at Christmas.

 

[REDOXO]

6 minutes ago, Bobby Bollax said:

Brutal being sacked at Christmas.

 

Yeah. All those payments must really help softening the blow. 

[Red-Robbo]

3 hours ago, tin said:

Craig Shakespeare’s suddenly available now, I wonder

 

It would be As You Like It, if he came here, for sure!

 

[Sorry, I'll get me coat...]

[BCFCGav]

Just looking at Dean Smith’s wiki page - his first managerial role was Walsall and he oversaw their EFL Trophy final defeat to us in 2014/15.

He’s loved the City for years, get him in

[Wade Wilson]

1 hour ago, Bobby Bollax said:

Brutal being sacked at Christmas.

 

[Jerseybean]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64017762

[spudski]

Quote... 

Smith publicly questioned the attitude of some fans after the home defeat by Blackburn on 17 December and said playing away was better for his side.

"I think a lot of them have been waiting for this period to happen, or wanting it to - I don't know," he told BBC Radio Norfolk at the time. 

must be a Wurzel thing

Edited December 27, 2022 by spudski

[Lack of Action Man]

Just now, spudski said:

Quote... 

Smith publicly questioned the attitude of some fans after the home defeat by Blackburn on 17 December and said playing away was better for his side.

"I think a lot of them have been waiting for this period to happen, or wanting it to - I don't know," he told BBC Radio Norfolk at the time. 

 Christ, what a blunder...

[spudski]

9 minutes ago, OddBallJim said:

 Christ, what a blunder...

Very similar to what NP implied post match against WBA

[Lack of Action Man]

1 minute ago, spudski said:

Very similar to what NP implied post match against WBA

I know... NP's post match interview was a bit bizarre I thought.

[BasSavage88]

1 hour ago, Bobby Bollax said:

Brutal being sacked at Christmas.

 

[spudski]

1 minute ago, OddBallJim said:

I know... NP's post match interview was a bit bizarre I thought.

It's frustration coming out. Ground hog day. You could tell by his demeanor in the interview that he was punch drunk.

You can only keep saying the same things over and over...you eventually run out of narrative.

He may as well have said...' same old shit, different day '.

[Lack of Action Man]

13 minutes ago, spudski said:

It's frustration coming out. Ground hog day. You could tell by his demeanor in the interview that he was punch drunk.

You can only keep saying the same things over and over...you eventually run out of narrative.

He may as well have said...' same old shit, different day '.

I think I might have preferred it if he did say that to be honest!

[bristol red]

Craig Shakespeare could only help our relegation battle if recruited.

[Dolman_Stand]

35 minutes ago, OddBallJim said:

I know... NP's post match interview was a bit bizarre I thought.

To be honest I could see where NP was coming from, we've just been booed off and you could hear the frustration and criticism all afternoon so his instinct was to say it may be better away from the pressure of playing at home. I think as soon as he said it he wanted to get away from that subject and trued to word it as kindly as possible thereafter, do those interviews go out live on Robins TV cus they could have just cut it short and started again surely?

[robin_unreliant]

Having watched Cotts team wallop Dean Smith's Walsall on multiple occasions I was always dubious of his ability. He was lucky to manage Brentford who recruited class players for his side. Wouldn't want him here.

[Curr Avon]

37 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Having watched Cotts team wallop Dean Smith's Walsall on multiple occasions I was always dubious of his ability. He was lucky to manage Brentford who recruited class players for his side. Wouldn't want him here.

I didn't know you subscribed to the History channel.

[Mr Popodopolous]

41 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Having watched Cotts team wallop Dean Smith's Walsall on multiple occasions I was always dubious of his ability. He was lucky to manage Brentford who recruited class players for his side. Wouldn't want him here.

Always thought Frank was a bit of an upgrade on him, although it could also have been a bit right place right time sort of thing.

[Mr Popodopolous]

City specific, I go on about finances but is there now a chance Shakespeare and perhaps even Walsh could be available here. Get two and maybe all 3 subject to availability back together.

[Mendip City]

2 hours ago, OddBallJim said:

I know... NP's post match interview was a bit bizarre I thought.

Almost like he was trying to get sacked I thought…. Wouldn’t be surprised if he felt success here now was a decent pay-off and early retirement.   
 

As for everyone suggesting Shakespeare - which of the coaching team NP brought in (to replace the existing coaching team he was going to work with) do you think he will sack? Euell or Fleming? 

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, robin_unreliant said:

Having watched Cotts team wallop Dean Smith's Walsall on multiple occasions I was always dubious of his ability. He was lucky to manage Brentford who recruited class players for his side. Wouldn't want him here.

I always quite liked Dean Smith until he went to Villa.  My mate who’s followed him quite closely says “he can’t build a defence”.  No word of a lie!

[firstdivision]

15 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

Norwich, 5th in the league sack there manager.

Meanwhile here at Bristol City, Nigel Pearson with a 26% win rate, can't win at home, can't play players in their correct positions, seems to be unsackable. 

Quite right too. He’s still cleaning up the mess created by the Visigoths in the 4th century. 

[GrahamC]

3 hours ago, firstdivision said:

Quite right too. He’s still cleaning up the mess created by the Visigoths in the 4th century. 

I know it was a really poor attempt at humour, but even you must see that trying to draw any parallel between us & Norwich is simply ridiculous?

Eustace at Birmingham would surely be the better argument or even Ince at Reading, if you’re trying to make the case?

Probably this is all lost on you though..

[firstdivision]

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

I know it was a really poor attempt at humour, but even you must see that trying to draw any parallel between us & Norwich is simply ridiculous?

Eustace at Birmingham would surely be the better argument or even Ince at Reading, if you’re trying to make the case?

Probably this is all lost on you though..

I’ve literally no idea what you’re talking about, Graham.  

[Bazooka Joe]

18 hours ago, Bobby Bollax said:

Brutal being sacked at Christmas.

No time like the present.

Delia has sent out a call for potential replacements.

"Let's be havin' you !"  . . .  "hic !"

 

 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

I am as worried as anyone. Our current form two awkward away games to come. But is it really the time for big changes? There must be plans for incoming and outgoing players from Jan window. A new manager and/coaching staff just seems to me to be too big a change. Yes I have been big NP fan but my patience is wearing thin. But I just feel we need stability and to get behind the team. I could not make last few games I been away. But just feeling we need to trust in NP

[Red_Alligator]

Well, I do remember him being a popular choice on here. Not for me though.

[Davefevs]

Didn’t see this happening.  Going back to the old German model!

cue pictures of Wagner from X-Factor!

[Port Said Red]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Didn’t see this happening.  Going back to the old German model!

cue pictures of Wagner from X-Factor!

Oh give some of us more credit than that Dave......

I didn't even go this route ...

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

Oh give some of us more credit than that Dave......

I didn't even go this route ...

How many people answer “Max” to the Q - what was the dog’s name in Hart to Hart?  It was Freeway, not Max.