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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

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crazy!

That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out".  At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs.............

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2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out".  At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs.............

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

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2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

Equally Rowatt and Robins bringing through Academy too.

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Just now, Silvio Dante said:

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

Absolutely. The likes of Conway, Bell, Kadji and Taylor-Clarke don't guarantee you performances. They are young, they have talent but have good games and very ordinary ones too. Doesn't guarantee you will keep your job like you say. But these lads are going to be where Semenyo is in time (I won't say Scott as he is a different animal completely).

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2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros.

The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the  squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 

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2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros.

The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the  squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 

Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. 
 

With apologies to @BigTone

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25 minutes ago, bpexile said:

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I may be mistaken, but I got the impression that the 'Nige deserves no credit' post was a sarcastic comment aimed at the previous poster, who seemed to suggest just that, i.e. that no credit was due to NP for picking the academy players (having first invited them to train with the first team) but all credit (rather than a lot of credit) was due to the academy - NP was certainly not mentioned in the previous poster's praise.  

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35 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros.

The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the  squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 

How do you know other clubs are not in a position to play their youth . You know the ability of every academy player in the league do you ? 

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16 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said:

Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers.

Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. 

No.

The littering of academy players is because they’d rather go to a top quality training facility and break through to a championship team as opposed to going to some kind of park setup. Meaning we get all the best players locally and you’re left with the dregs.

So, we reap the benefits of you being shit and laughable. Again.

 

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