Gillies Downs Leeds Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Never Ever. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Appleton has the same agent as Nige, the one who took to twitter a couple of weeks ago to defend Nige's record. That agent is good friends with John Percy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Must already have someone lined up to take over, given it’s pretty odd timing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Remember when he was coming here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj77 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Job for Cotts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Remember when he was coming here Several times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: He was their rock. With relegation candidates written right through it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 It’s been coming. Majority of fans wanted him gone. Wilder favourite but won’t happen surely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Mark Ashton should be on the phone…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 crazy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: crazy! That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out". At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs............. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out". At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs............. What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high Equally Rowatt and Robins bringing through Academy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Silvio Dante said: What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high Absolutely. The likes of Conway, Bell, Kadji and Taylor-Clarke don't guarantee you performances. They are young, they have talent but have good games and very ordinary ones too. Doesn't guarantee you will keep your job like you say. But these lads are going to be where Semenyo is in time (I won't say Scott as he is a different animal completely). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, alexukhc said: Remember when he was coming here I’ve tried my hardest to forget it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros. The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros. The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. With apologies to @BigTone 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, glynriley said: Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. With apologies to @BigTone W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, bpexile said: W I hope that’s aimed at the other bloke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Small Champ club performing as per resources Sack the manager they say but will the desperation to remain in this division affect their L1 promotion challenge next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, bpexile said: W I may be mistaken, but I got the impression that the 'Nige deserves no credit' post was a sarcastic comment aimed at the previous poster, who seemed to suggest just that, i.e. that no credit was due to NP for picking the academy players (having first invited them to train with the first team) but all credit (rather than a lot of credit) was due to the academy - NP was certainly not mentioned in the previous poster's praise. Edited January 18, 2023 by PHILINFRANCE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: crazy! No wonder results, except perhaps Burnley’s, are so unpredictable this season - not much chance of teams showing any continuity with all the managerial changes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, glynriley said: Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. With apologies to @BigTone Condensed version: SL deserves the credit for starting it- NP deserves the credit for playing them. End of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, East End Old Boy said: No wonder results, except perhaps Burnley’s, are so unpredictable this season - not much chance of teams showing any continuity with all the managerial changes! Nor is a new manager bounce guaranteed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: Nor is a new manager bounce guaranteed. Thanks, as I was going to add perhaps teams desperate for the new manager bounce! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros. The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. How do you know other clubs are not in a position to play their youth . You know the ability of every academy player in the league do you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 The profit we made on Adam Webster and Josh Brownhill more than paid for Kalas, Bentley, Tomlin and Palmer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers. Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. No. The littering of academy players is because they’d rather go to a top quality training facility and break through to a championship team as opposed to going to some kind of park setup. Meaning we get all the best players locally and you’re left with the dregs. So, we reap the benefits of you being shit and laughable. Again. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Malago said: The profit we made on Adam Webster and Josh Brownhill more than paid for Kalas, Bentley, Tomlin and Palmer. Absolutely… ….it was the other 57 players it didn’t cover! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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