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5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

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crazy!

That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out".  At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs.............

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out".  At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs.............

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

Equally Rowatt and Robins bringing through Academy too.

Posted
Just now, Silvio Dante said:

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

Absolutely. The likes of Conway, Bell, Kadji and Taylor-Clarke don't guarantee you performances. They are young, they have talent but have good games and very ordinary ones too. Doesn't guarantee you will keep your job like you say. But these lads are going to be where Semenyo is in time (I won't say Scott as he is a different animal completely).

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Posted
1 hour ago, alexukhc said:

Remember when he was coming here ?

I’ve tried my hardest to forget it 

Posted
2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids.

Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high

In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros.

The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the  squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 

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2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros.

The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the  squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 

Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. 
 

With apologies to @BigTone

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Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, bpexile said:

W⚓

I may be mistaken, but I got the impression that the 'Nige deserves no credit' post was a sarcastic comment aimed at the previous poster, who seemed to suggest just that, i.e. that no credit was due to NP for picking the academy players (having first invited them to train with the first team) but all credit (rather than a lot of credit) was due to the academy - NP was certainly not mentioned in the previous poster's praise.  

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Posted
Just now, East End Old Boy said:

No wonder results, except perhaps Burnley’s, are so unpredictable this season - not much chance of teams showing any continuity with all the managerial changes!

Nor is a new manager bounce guaranteed.

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35 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros.

The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the  squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 

How do you know other clubs are not in a position to play their youth . You know the ability of every academy player in the league do you ? 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said:

Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers.

Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. 

No.

The littering of academy players is because they’d rather go to a top quality training facility and break through to a championship team as opposed to going to some kind of park setup. Meaning we get all the best players locally and you’re left with the dregs.

So, we reap the benefits of you being shit and laughable. Again.

 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Malago said:

The profit we made on Adam Webster and Josh Brownhill more than paid for Kalas, Bentley, Tomlin and Palmer.

Absolutely…

 

 

 

 

 

….it was the other 57 players it didn’t cover!

???

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said:

Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers.

Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. 

£300,000 for Matty Taylor though, so we do identify value?

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Posted
5 hours ago, Davefevs said:

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crazy!

I’m surprised Nige is the oldest manager in the championship! Especially as I’m only 8 months younger.

This news and Mickey Bell’s son scoring last night is taking its toll.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said:

Aaron Collins, who was a youth player for us, would walk into your side. But you'd need to be able to afford him first....

Scott Sinclair, who came through the Rovers set-up, also p*sses over Semenyo and his one in seven strike rate. 

 

He wasn't worth that judging by his record with you....

Oh dear

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Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said:

Aaron Collins, who was a youth player for us, would walk into your side. But you'd need to be able to afford him first....

Scott Sinclair, who came through the Rovers set-up, also p*sses over Semenyo and his one in seven strike rate. 

 

 

Go to bed lad, you’re drunk.

Scott Sinclair, who was released by Preston at this level and wanted by no other teams - hence moving to you - at which point Helen Flanagan left him as she couldn’t stand the shame, is seriously comparable at this stage of his career to Semenyo? Basically, you’ve got the old timer whose seen better days and that’s your academy product?

**** me, I might bring up Trevor Tainton next!

 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Oh Yeah Hello GIF

I know, ******* hell.

Apparently their first choice was some Man U coach but he turned them down.

Not exactly a “like for like” replacement..

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Oh dear

I’ve put him on ignore, attention seeking c0ck.

Posted
1 minute ago, Ashton Hero said:

I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23?

Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers. 

If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. 

I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23?

OK can I have Bobby Reid at 25 Vs Aaron Collins at 25? Thought not.

Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers.

Name them. With corroborating sources. And then prove why he’d move miles from his family home in preference.

If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. 
 

So, £23,5m then? No issues there. Thanks for the price tag.

Don’t bring a blunt knife to a gunfight son.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Ashton Hero said:

Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers.

Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. 

No f*cking way, surely it can't be, oh my god it actually is, a Rag Ass Rovers fan mocking our transfer fees paid from the pitiful position of a Tilson in 1993 or whatever it was, a figure declining with the seasons in direct proportion to the accumulation of the years in the Gap

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said:

I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23?

Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers. 

If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. 

Eat shit and die, saggie.

Posted
1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23?

OK can I have Bobby Reid at 25 Vs Aaron Collins at 25? Thought not.

Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers.

Name them. With corroborating sources. And then prove why he’d move miles from his family home in preference.

If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. 
 

So, £23,5m then? No issues there. Thanks for the price tag.

Don’t bring a blunt knife to a gunfight son.

To be fair, Scott Sinclair hails from Bath, where his parents and, by extension, his children's grandparents still live.

I understand that Sinclair is very close to/dotes on his children, and that his parents babysit the children when he is training/playing etc.  

I have never understood Helen Flanagan, although I can perhaps understand Sinclair's initial attraction to them her.

Posted
9 hours ago, Ashton Hero said:

Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers.

Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. 

Don’t they still have to be good enough? If you pick seven Academy grown players who aren’t up to it you get obliterated. **** me you come across as bitter and twisted even by Blue Few standards……….

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Posted
9 hours ago, Ashton Hero said:

Aaron Collins, who was a youth player for us, would walk into your side. But you'd need to be able to afford him first....

Scott Sinclair, who came through the Rovers set-up, also p*sses over Semenyo and his one in seven strike rate. 

 

He wasn't worth that judging by his record with you....

Aaron Collins was a youth player for you or are you just bullshitting as most, sorry pretty much all, Gas do? Did you let him go to Newport because he wasnt deemed good enough as a youth team player then? Since the age of 17 where he started his football playing career AT NEWPORT he’s had TEN different clubs. Hardly in the category of amazing youth team player is it? Yes, he seems to have made a distinct improvement over the last two seasons at lower league level but that doesn’t guarantee he’ll “walk” into ANY Championship side. Billy Bodin is a good place to start - better than Tammy wasn’t he?

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Posted (edited)
10 hours ago, Ashton Hero said:

He wasn't worth that judging by his record with you....

Oh, it was worth it :dance:

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and we knocked you down from £10,000,000 , so there's that.

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