Kid in the Riot Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Appleton has the same agent as Nige, the one who took to twitter a couple of weeks ago to defend Nige's record. That agent is good friends with John Percy. 1 Quote
petehinton Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Must already have someone lined up to take over, given it’s pretty odd timing Quote
East Londoner Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, alexukhc said: Remember when he was coming here Several times Quote
Curr Avon Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: He was their rock. With relegation candidates written right through it! Quote
And Its Smith Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 It’s been coming. Majority of fans wanted him gone. Wilder favourite but won’t happen surely. Quote
Gert Mare Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Mark Ashton should be on the phone…. 1 Quote
Numero Uno Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: crazy! That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out". At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs............. 2 Quote
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: That's the modern fan for you. Lose a few games and "we want {Name} out". At least 15 of the 18 clubs who have had Managers in charge for less than a year in this division are likely to be disappointed at the end of this season. Another 12 AT LEAST next season etc. etc. Fast forward 365 days and that table will probably look remarkably similar but with a slightly different mix of clubs............. What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high 7 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high Equally Rowatt and Robins bringing through Academy too. Quote
Numero Uno Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Silvio Dante said: What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high Absolutely. The likes of Conway, Bell, Kadji and Taylor-Clarke don't guarantee you performances. They are young, they have talent but have good games and very ordinary ones too. Doesn't guarantee you will keep your job like you say. But these lads are going to be where Semenyo is in time (I won't say Scott as he is a different animal completely). 1 Quote
pongo88 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, alexukhc said: Remember when he was coming here I’ve tried my hardest to forget it Quote
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: What it also does is show how the time in job stifles the desire to play youngsters. Over 50% of the division changing bosses this season means that if you take over, you know you’re expected to produce immediately. That being the case, you’d always go to senior pros rather than kids. Niges time in job and the number of academy players being brought through isn’t a coincidence. It’s an outcome that only is attained through time in job being (relatively) high In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros. The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. 2 Quote
glynriley Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros. The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. With apologies to @BigTone 5 Quote
bpexile Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, glynriley said: Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. With apologies to @BigTone W Quote
glynriley Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, bpexile said: W I hope that’s aimed at the other bloke. 1 Quote
cidercity1987 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Small Champ club performing as per resources Sack the manager they say but will the desperation to remain in this division affect their L1 promotion challenge next year? Quote
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, bpexile said: W I may be mistaken, but I got the impression that the 'Nige deserves no credit' post was a sarcastic comment aimed at the previous poster, who seemed to suggest just that, i.e. that no credit was due to NP for picking the academy players (having first invited them to train with the first team) but all credit (rather than a lot of credit) was due to the academy - NP was certainly not mentioned in the previous poster's praise. Edited January 18, 2023 by PHILINFRANCE 1 Quote
East End Old Boy Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: crazy! No wonder results, except perhaps Burnley’s, are so unpredictable this season - not much chance of teams showing any continuity with all the managerial changes! Quote
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, glynriley said: Condensed version - Nige deserves no credit. With apologies to @BigTone Condensed version: SL deserves the credit for starting it- NP deserves the credit for playing them. End of. 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, East End Old Boy said: No wonder results, except perhaps Burnley’s, are so unpredictable this season - not much chance of teams showing any continuity with all the managerial changes! Nor is a new manager bounce guaranteed. 1 Quote
East End Old Boy Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: Nor is a new manager bounce guaranteed. Thanks, as I was going to add perhaps teams desperate for the new manager bounce! 1 Quote
steviestevieneville Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said: In the past at BCFC, the reliance on youngsters was minimal because there was no obvious ability- it was fairly shocking. This was a subject on here for years. Other clubs are not in a position to play their youth for the simple reason is that the quality is not there in abundance and quite rightly the manager has to rely on senior pros. The fact that we now have one of the best academies which continues to produce quality players is testament to the long term determination of our club to make it happen. The fact that the squad at Swansea was littered with academy players is not down to the last two years- it's down to the last decade of investment , quality facilities and coaching staff. It starts at around age 10 or less in most cases. How do you know other clubs are not in a position to play their youth . You know the ability of every academy player in the league do you ? 1 Quote
Malago Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 The profit we made on Adam Webster and Josh Brownhill more than paid for Kalas, Bentley, Tomlin and Palmer. 1 Quote
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers. Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. No. The littering of academy players is because they’d rather go to a top quality training facility and break through to a championship team as opposed to going to some kind of park setup. Meaning we get all the best players locally and you’re left with the dregs. So, we reap the benefits of you being shit and laughable. Again. 6 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Malago said: The profit we made on Adam Webster and Josh Brownhill more than paid for Kalas, Bentley, Tomlin and Palmer. Absolutely… ….it was the other 57 players it didn’t cover! 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Blackpool home to Huddersfield this Saturday. What timing!!! Quote
GreedyHarry Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers. Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. £300,000 for Matty Taylor though, so we do identify value 5 Quote
ralphindevon Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: crazy! I’m surprised Nige is the oldest manager in the championship! Especially as I’m only 8 months younger. This news and Mickey Bell’s son scoring last night is taking its toll. 5 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Aaron Collins, who was a youth player for us, would walk into your side. But you'd need to be able to afford him first.... Scott Sinclair, who came through the Rovers set-up, also p*sses over Semenyo and his one in seven strike rate. He wasn't worth that judging by his record with you.... Oh dear 1 Quote
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: Aaron Collins, who was a youth player for us, would walk into your side. But you'd need to be able to afford him first.... Scott Sinclair, who came through the Rovers set-up, also p*sses over Semenyo and his one in seven strike rate. Go to bed lad, you’re drunk. Scott Sinclair, who was released by Preston at this level and wanted by no other teams - hence moving to you - at which point Helen Flanagan left him as she couldn’t stand the shame, is seriously comparable at this stage of his career to Semenyo? Basically, you’ve got the old timer whose seen better days and that’s your academy product? **** me, I might bring up Trevor Tainton next! Edited January 18, 2023 by Silvio Dante 6 Quote
GrahamC Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I know, ******* hell. Apparently their first choice was some Man U coach but he turned them down. Not exactly a “like for like” replacement.. 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Oh dear I’ve put him on ignore, attention seeking c0ck. Quote
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I thought you were joking, but it seems it may be true. Bad news for Cardiff, as well . Quote
Silvio Dante Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Ashton Hero said: I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23? Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers. If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23? OK can I have Bobby Reid at 25 Vs Aaron Collins at 25? Thought not. Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers. Name them. With corroborating sources. And then prove why he’d move miles from his family home in preference. If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. So, £23,5m then? No issues there. Thanks for the price tag. Don’t bring a blunt knife to a gunfight son. 1 2 Quote
Porto Red Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Ashton Hero said: Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers. Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. No f*cking way, surely it can't be, oh my god it actually is, a Rag Ass Rovers fan mocking our transfer fees paid from the pitiful position of a Tilson in 1993 or whatever it was, a figure declining with the seasons in direct proportion to the accumulation of the years in the Gap 1 Quote
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ashton Hero said: I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23? Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers. If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. Eat shit and die, saggie. Quote
AshtonGreat Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Malago said: The profit we made on Adam Webster and Josh Brownhill more than paid for Kalas, Bentley, Tomlin and Palmer. That was money well spent then :laugh: Quote
PHILINFRANCE Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: I was comparing like-for-like. Sinclair at 23 or Semenyo at 23? OK can I have Bobby Reid at 25 Vs Aaron Collins at 25? Thought not. Sinclair actually had interest from Championship clubs before resigning with Rovers. Name them. With corroborating sources. And then prove why he’d move miles from his family home in preference. If Semenyo goes to Bournemouth, he'll be another Rhian Brewster. So, £23,5m then? No issues there. Thanks for the price tag. Don’t bring a blunt knife to a gunfight son. To be fair, Scott Sinclair hails from Bath, where his parents and, by extension, his children's grandparents still live. I understand that Sinclair is very close to/dotes on his children, and that his parents babysit the children when he is training/playing etc. I have never understood Helen Flanagan, although I can perhaps understand Sinclair's initial attraction to them her. Quote
Numero Uno Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: Isn't it more that you have such a poor record in the transfer market and your financial constraints oblige you to bring through youth players? If so, it would be more accurate to say that the littering of academy players is due to poor and misguided investment by previous managers. Eight million pounds for Kalas, two million for Bentley and how much for Tomlin and Palmer? Ouch. Don’t they still have to be good enough? If you pick seven Academy grown players who aren’t up to it you get obliterated. **** me you come across as bitter and twisted even by Blue Few standards………. 1 Quote
Numero Uno Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 9 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: Aaron Collins, who was a youth player for us, would walk into your side. But you'd need to be able to afford him first.... Scott Sinclair, who came through the Rovers set-up, also p*sses over Semenyo and his one in seven strike rate. He wasn't worth that judging by his record with you.... Aaron Collins was a youth player for you or are you just bullshitting as most, sorry pretty much all, Gas do? Did you let him go to Newport because he wasnt deemed good enough as a youth team player then? Since the age of 17 where he started his football playing career AT NEWPORT he’s had TEN different clubs. Hardly in the category of amazing youth team player is it? Yes, he seems to have made a distinct improvement over the last two seasons at lower league level but that doesn’t guarantee he’ll “walk” into ANY Championship side. Billy Bodin is a good place to start - better than Tammy wasn’t he? 1 1 Quote
1960maaan Posted January 19, 2023 Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ashton Hero said: He wasn't worth that judging by his record with you.... Oh, it was worth it and we knocked you down from £10,000,000 , so there's that. Edited January 19, 2023 by 1960maaan Quote
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