Jacki Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I was in S82 and had no idea what was going on. Seemed from where I was like the security guy didn’t like people celebrating a goal, which is bizarre. I can understand why they check tickets to get into our section. Lots of kids want to go in there and it would be massively over populated if they didn’t. I have no issue with it at all. As for checking them as you approach the stadium, it’s the lack of consistency that I find strange. Sometimes they check, sometimes they don’t, and I go through the same entrance by KFC UPevery week. Very strange As a general point, I’ve got to know the stewards near where I stand and have no issues with any of them at all. Most of them are polite, friendly and helpful and ‘get it’. As long as you don’t act like an obnoxious idiot, in general there are no problems. This private security firm seem like a different breed though… they seem like a completely unnecessary solution to a problem that never existed on the first place 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said: Mate I'm with my six year old grandson I'm hardly gonna start lighting up flares That’s a shame. Teach ‘em young I say! Mind you, this as a policy would discriminate against people without 6 year old grandsons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Super said: It's quite funny how something so simple to do annoys people. Yeh it’s only a post on a forum and people get so annoyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, Jacki said: As long as you don’t act like an obnoxious idiot, in general there are no problems. That's a pretty decent guide normally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red94 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Funny how the overweight ‘steward’ with the beard who was causing trouble in the singing section is a gas head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Red94 said: Funny how the overweight ‘steward’ with the beard who was causing trouble in the singing section is a gas head. Is that correct? If we are thinking of the same individual he was a security guard, not steward. As I’ve said on this thread, the stewards weren’t an issue. In fact one I spoke to after it happened thought the security guards being in there was causing more issues than it was (presumably) set up to resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 11 hours ago, 2015 said: Some tosser from Winterstoke Road entrance shouting at people Saturday and Today to show their tickets. Get a proper job mate, we wouldn't be walking to the Ground for no reason. Jobsworths everywhere Agreed. May not have a ticket but could be going to the City shop or just having a drink at one of the outside places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted February 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, WECANDO said: Agreed. May not have a ticket but could be going to the City shop or just having a drink at one of the outside places. Be interesting to see what response one would get saying that you have no ticket and just want to go to the shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, One Team said: Be interesting to see what response one would get saying that you have no ticket and just want to go to the shop. I'm not sure they'd have any legal authority to stop or detain anyone, as the route around the stadium along the back of the Lansdown Stand (Marina Dolman Way is it?) is publically accessible which I think - and I could be wrong, means that if they wanted to stop people to check tickets etc, they'd need to put a fixed barrier up to prevent people from just wandering through, that would need to be in place permanently. I'm sure someone with some knowledge of the legal positon will be along shortly to tell me I'm wrong, but that was my assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: I'm not sure they'd have any legal authority to stop or detain anyone, as the route around the stadium along the back of the Lansdown Stand (Marina Dolman Way is it?) is publically accessible which I think - and I could be wrong, means that if they wanted to stop people to check tickets etc, they'd need to put a fixed barrier up to prevent people from just wandering through, that would need to be in place permanently. I'm sure someone with some knowledge of the legal positon will be along shortly to tell me I'm wrong, but that was my assumption. As far as I’m aware, the entire footprint is private property but public access is granted whenever there isn’t an event on. There’s a sign on the Raynes Rd entrance giving the legal spiel if - I can be arsed to walk around the corner I’ll post a pic of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red94 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, One Team said: Is that correct? If we are thinking of the same individual he was a security guard, not steward. As I’ve said on this thread, the stewards weren’t an issue. In fact one I spoke to after it happened thought the security guards being in there was causing more issues than it was (presumably) set up to resolve. Yes, his pictures have been posted on a few Facebook groups. They are always causing trouble the standard stewards are normally spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, richwwtk said: That's a pretty decent guide normally Except last night when it was this security company (hawk security) that we’re wondering around being obnoxious pricks and causing trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, One Team said: Be interesting to see what response one would get saying that you have no ticket and just want to go to the shop. Don’t think they would stop anyone from doing that. They also keep lost property in the shop, so there’s another excuse.. It’s only a token gesture. I walk straight past them every game and not once have I been stopped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, frenchred said: On the odd occasion when a mate has my ticket I just tell them I'm in corporate, no questions asked! Alternatively, tell them you're in continent. But maybe they'd then tell you to piss off. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Jacki said: I was in S82 and had no idea what was going on. Seemed from where I was like the security guy didn’t like people celebrating a goal, which is bizarre. Imagine the bl**dy pandemonium when we are eventully awarded a penalty. . . and, worse still, the riot that will follow if we miss it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 14 hours ago, Mr Hankey said: What’s the issue with showing your ticket? No different to being on a train/airplane/bus ect Exactly 14 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said: What about you walk up the steps in B Block to be greeted with a girl in a vest I personally was with my 6 year old grandson she,asked for my ticket I said how the **** do you think I got through the turnstiles . Getting through the turnstiles is irrelevant. It’s where you go after the turnstiles that counts. Unfortunately there are quite a few people who buy tickets for one area and then decide to go and sit / stand somewhere else. A lot of people forget how progressive the redevelopment of Ashton Gate is, as the concours runs under three stands without interruption. This means supporters who sit in different stands can meet up before the match for a drink and a chat. The downside is what I mentioned - some people who have the “I can go where I want attitude”. Try going to Old Trafford. There everything is divided into small sections and once you’re in your section you can’t move around the ground. This type of segregation could have been introduced with the redevelopment but SL decided to trust the supporters. Unfortunately this trust is being betrayed by a significant minority of fans. PS - if you really said “how the **** do you think I got through the turnstiles” then that’s being extremely rude to someone who was doing their job. Perhaps you could apologise the next time you go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 53 minutes ago, pongo88 said: PS - if you really said “how the **** do you think I got through the turnstiles” then that’s being extremely rude to someone who was doing their job. Perhaps you could apologise the next time you go And a six year old , really ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, pongo88 said: Exactly Getting through the turnstiles is irrelevant. It’s where you go after the turnstiles that counts. Unfortunately there are quite a few people who buy tickets for one area and then decide to go and sit / stand somewhere else. A lot of people forget how progressive the redevelopment of Ashton Gate is, as the concours runs under three stands without interruption. This means supporters who sit in different stands can meet up before the match for a drink and a chat. The downside is what I mentioned - some people who have the “I can go where I want attitude”. Try going to Old Trafford. There everything is divided into small sections and once you’re in your section you can’t move around the ground. This type of segregation could have been introduced with the redevelopment but SL decided to trust the supporters. Unfortunately this trust is being betrayed by a significant minority of fans. PS - if you really said “how the **** do you think I got through the turnstiles” then that’s being extremely rude to someone who was doing their job. Perhaps you could apologise the next time you go I'm getting at these jobsworths being over zealous read my post again was with my grandson hes no threat not gonna play up in A block is he bar wave his scarf when sat down these Hitler's walking up an down B block dragging young kids out I pay to watch the games not to see their asses go up and down blocking my view . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombsy Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Most of the stewards are good and friendly its the new SIA guys they think they’re in a night club 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Coombsy said: Most of the stewards are good and friendly its the new SIA guys they think they’re in a night club Faircop_ on Twitter has posted about this at other grounds- it's happened here in the past, shame if it's happening again now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said: I'm getting at these jobsworths being over zealous read my post again was with my grandson hes no threat not gonna play up in A block is he bar wave his scarf when sat down these Hitler's walking up an down B block dragging young kids out I pay to watch the games not to see their asses go up and down blocking my view . Read my post again. Getting through the turnstiles is irrelevant as there are too many people who think they can buy a ticket for one area and then go somewhere else. That’s why the steward asked to see your ticket. She isn’t a jobsworth, she’s a person doing what she was employed to do. If people could be trusted there would be no need for stewards. The fact that you said “how the **** do you think I got through the turnstiles” is disgraceful. I suggested you apologise to her the next time you go, but what about the example you’re setting to your 6 year old grandson? Not a good example is it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stone Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 30 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Read my post again. Getting through the turnstiles is irrelevant as there are too many people who think they can buy a ticket for one area and then go somewhere else. That’s why the steward asked to see your ticket. She isn’t a jobsworth, she’s a person doing what she was employed to do. If people could be trusted there would be no need for stewards. The fact that you said “how the **** do you think I got through the turnstiles” is disgraceful. I suggested you apologise to her the next time you go, but what about the example you’re setting to your 6 year old grandson? Not a good example is it? So how about me then, 56 and no threat to anyone. Walk up the steps with a Clarke pie in one hand and a tea in the other. Season ticket is in my wallet and i then get by asked by a kid to show her my ticket. I said I've been sitting in my seat for years I know where I'm going and carried on walking. Then she starts shouting at me and i refused a second time, am in the wrong as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 It could be worse, see Sunderland away fans requirements thread. No coins, no vapes, some sort of issue with chargers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Mike Stone said: So how about me then, 56 and no threat to anyone. Walk up the steps with a Clarke pie in one hand and a tea in the other. Season ticket is in my wallet and i then get by asked by a kid to show her my ticket. I said I've been sitting in my seat for years I know where I'm going and carried on walking. Then she starts shouting at me and i refused a second time, am in the wrong as well. Sounds like some of our stewards or more accurately security are a problem but we also seem to have an issue with people migrating to the block and obviously they got wise to Block specific ticket checks and migrate via other parts of the stand. In other words if they want to go into that block they need to have season tickets or tickets for it- but at the same time it does sound like some are ott, need to cool it a little. Whether the searches should be more targeted well this is another layer. Edited February 16, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Mike Stone said: So how about me then, 56 and no threat to anyone. Walk up the steps with a Clarke pie in one hand and a tea in the other. Season ticket is in my wallet and i then get by asked by a kid to show her my ticket. I said I've been sitting in my seat for years I know where I'm going and carried on walking. Then she starts shouting at me and i refused a second time, am in the wrong as well. What I tend to do is pass them the stuff that's in my hand to get my ticket out, once they realise it's going to take a minute to get the ticket out and there is a large queue behind they tend to wave through. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Mike Stone said: So how about me then, 56 and no threat to anyone. Walk up the steps with a Clarke pie in one hand and a tea in the other. Season ticket is in my wallet and i then get by asked by a kid to show her my ticket. I said I've been sitting in my seat for years I know where I'm going and carried on walking. Then she starts shouting at me and i refused a second time, am in the wrong as well. Your attitude sums up the problem. The person who asked you to show your ticket had probably never met you before, so how did she know you’ve been sitting in your seat for years? Also age is not a factor. You seem to think that being 56 is ok but a steward who is young is just a “kid”. It was the fact that you carried on walking that caused the problem. If you bother to read my posts properly, instead of having a strop, you’ll understand the point I’m trying to make. There is a significant minority of supporters who can’t be trusted which is why the club employs stewards to check tickets. If you don’t like being asked to show your ticket, don’t blame the stewards. Blame the “I can do what I want” fans who force the club to employ the stewards PS - well done for buying a Clarks pie Edited February 16, 2023 by pongo88 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 16, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Coombsy said: Most of the stewards are good and friendly its the new SIA guys they think they’re in a night club The new team mentioned earlier in this article are well known around Weston for looking after doors on a few bars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted February 16, 2023 Admin Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Mike Stone said: So how about me then, 56 and no threat to anyone. Walk up the steps with a Clarke pie in one hand and a tea in the other. Season ticket is in my wallet and i then get by asked by a kid to show her my ticket. I said I've been sitting in my seat for years I know where I'm going and carried on walking. Then she starts shouting at me and i refused a second time, am in the wrong as well. Playing devil's advocate in this instance she wouldn't know whether it was your first or your thousandth visit It's because of people not sitting in the correct seats that is the cause for the additional checks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stone Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, phantom said: Playing devil's advocate in this instance she wouldn't know whether it was your first or your thousandth visit It's because of people not sitting in the correct seats that is the cause for the additional checks All down to training though, targeting the wrong age groups I'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Mike Stone said: All down to training though, targeting the wrong age groups I'm afraid Training and experience. Both of those will be variable- I read that football clubs lost quite a lot of experienced stewards post Covid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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