old_eastender Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Play him centrally up front, or in the no.10 role but not out wide. Amazed it took 77 mins before he was finally hooked. Reckon Cornick would make a better rotational switch for Sykes. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 ... they cross the ball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnheadbcfc Posted February 15, 2023 Report Share Posted February 15, 2023 Don't think hes a automatic starter anymore, just alot more competition this season 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, johnheadbcfc said: Don't think hes a automatic starter anymore, just alot more competition this season Nige has made him captain il bet he does but agree shouldn't on recent performances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 He's not yet fully match fit, IMO. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Definitely not a wide man… He’s actually quite slim 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Rich Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 He's only one letter away though! Don't write him off yet! Someone give him a d to go after the i!!! 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said: Nige has made him captain il bet he does but agree shouldn't on recent performances. Players chose him as captain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, cidered abroad said: He's not yet fully match fit, IMO. I think this is the issue here. He has been made Captain so pretty much nailed on to start, but how does Pearson shoe him into a side which has done well without him? He didn't play in his best position last night and wasn't match fit, and it showed. I think we have been spoilt by him being so naturally fit and he seems to recover fast from injuries, hopefully he can progress quickly again but age catches everyone sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said: Nige has made him captain il bet he does but agree shouldn't on recent performances. Wasn’t it voted by the players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) He's been made Club Captain. That's slightly different to match captain. If he plays then yes he'll wear the armband, but it doesn't automatically mean he'll play. Bentley was Club Captain for the whole time he was on the bench this season. Edited February 16, 2023 by ExiledAjax 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 He is a runner who likes to get in behind, that’s his strength….he isn’t creative, a good passer or someone who is a natural goalscorer (last season being the anomaly). Playing him against a side like Wigan who sit deep didn’t make much sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Him and Sykes offer different things so I don’t mind which one starts. However, if we kept everyone this summer that would be the area I’d like to see strengthened the most from the front 3 and 1 behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Vidal said: He is a runner who likes to get in behind, that’s his strength….he isn’t creative, a good passer or someone who is a natural goalscorer (last season being the anomaly). Playing him against a side like Wigan who sit deep didn’t make much sense to me. He got in fairness in some cracking positions, but flashed balls across the box seemingly not having a clue who was there. That is about partnerships as much as anything. Maybe Bell takes a risk, attacks the six yard line and gets on the end of one or two of them, don’t know. Either way, it was frustrating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, cityexile said: He got in fairness in some cracking positions, but flashed balls across the box seemingly not having a clue who was there. That is about partnerships as much as anything. Maybe Bell takes a risk, attacks the six yard line and gets on the end of one or two of them, don’t know. Either way, it was frustrating! No, it's about getting your head up and looking to see who is available where, unfortunately this is not one of Andi's strong points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 The OP is correct. Weimann has never been particularly effective if being shoved out to play on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 hours ago, cidered abroad said: He's not yet fully match fit, IMO. He was out injured for ages, no surprise that he was off the pace. His crossing was particularly poor. The hour or so that he got will really benefit him tho ‘miles in the legs’ is essential when coming back from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Haven't seen anyone spelling it Widemann anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Not wishing to be critical of Weimann, as I think he just had one of those nights last night, and he got into some great positions…so he can’t be all bad, can he? But I thought this summed it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Wiemann is cursed with versatility 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: He's been made Club Captain. That's slightly different to match captain. If he plays then yes he'll wear the armband, but it doesn't automatically mean he'll play. Bentley was Club Captain for the whole time he was on the bench this season. Thank you, the difference didn't register with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Percy Pig said: Bentley was captain before him and didn't play, so I'm not sure that quite adds up. See my reply above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, RedM said: Thank you, the difference didn't register with me. To be fair the Club have never to my knowledge fully set out exactly what the "Club Captain" role entails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: To be fair the Club have never to my knowledge fully set out exactly what the "Club Captain" role entails. Sorting out complimentary tickets and collecting fines 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: Sorting out complimentary tickets and collecting fines I assume he also texts everyone the meeting time on Friday night, and sorts the sandwiches for the away team. Probably also does the Christmas raffle - although he's dodged that this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I assume he also texts everyone the meeting time on Friday night, and sorts the sandwiches for the away team. Probably also does the Christmas raffle - although he's dodged that this year. Robbing the other team of their pound coins after the game, under the pretense they actually have a chance of winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Percy Pig said: I think, and it is only think as I don't have the stats or some amazing artwork to back it up (You put us all to shame, Fevs), that Weimann is too different to Sykes to suit our established pattern of play. If he is to play wide right then we are going to need to adjust slightly. Over the last few months (The 4-3-3 era, let's say) we've primarily attacked down the left with Semenyo and Bell charging forward with the ball and looking to beat a fullback on the outside. Sykes on the other side has tended to cut inside and attack the back post when that happens. Weimann has always made "inside out" runs, especially when playing central. His stock run is to go around the right forward and into the channel between LCB and LB of the opposition. (I can barely think of a goal of his that wasn't scored from the right hand side of the box!) When his starting position is wider he tends to end up playing as an out and out winger and with Mehmeti hugging the left touchline it just left Cornick isolated in the box. If it was Wells playing on the left of the three, it might have been a little bit better. One other "issue" with Weimann playing right is he makes so many positive and good runs that it's almost impossible not to give him the ball all the time. I felt last night we needed to recycle out to the left more often, Mehmeti and Pring looked fairly dangerous down that side when we did but too often Andi made a great run and we went down his side. Sykes is very good at standing still and sucking players in then playing it to Tanner who shifts it central and then we move it out the other side. I personally think that little pattern has been a major success story since going to 4-3-3 He's still class, even if he had a stinker last night. I talk about this in this weeks OSIB, just recorded. with Semenyo in the line-up we played a bit lop-sided, Semenyo closer to Wells, Sykes on the right, Pring space to get forward. Scott naturally drifts left so he can go either way. Last night, spaced out, but stopped Pring going on the outside. He had to take up positions infield at times but it also allowed Atkinson to drive forward when they marked Pring out wide. So pros and cons. What I’d like to see is the lop-sided set up being able to flex more. With the above, Weimann becomes the narrower player, which probably suits him more. Cornick could also play that if Wells is CF, as he likes being in that mid-position too. The game is obviously fluid, but one of my fears of 433 is when the wide forwards both play wide. I think one needs to try to play narrower, closer to the other CF. We also saw how both Cornick and Wells had to try to cover a lot of ground w/o the ball when Wigan played out from the back. Instead of Weimann coming across to help as Wigan moved it towards their right, Scott got dragged in to help, which meant James and Williams suddenly had big distances between them and Scott / Forwards. They did suss it out, but it gave Wigan confidence for that spell after h-t, especially with Lang knowing he could drift into those spaces infield from Pring, but not covered by James or Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Not wishing to be critical of Weimann, as I think he just had one of those nights last night, and he got into some great positions…so he can’t be all bad, can he? But I thought this summed it up. Those stats are shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 I don't really know what andi is or where his best position, bar one good goalscoring season in his whole career (not just with us) I think it's fair to say it's a bit of a dilemma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Well what is he, if wor Weimann's not a wideman? Could he share no.9 duties with Wells? His preferred position, after all, though not necessarily his best - a freer role in behind which allows him to arrive in the box unmarked was how he scored so many last season. He demonstrated real instinct for space and being in the right place at the right time. Was the W-S-M formation key to that though? What now for Weimann without his S&M? Steady! And fwiw, I'm not convinced by Cornick in a central position either but it's early days for him, tbf. Still got Conway to come back too - that'll complicate things further - and his form before injury surely puts him in a matchday squad at least, if not the starting 11. Wor Weimann might not even make the bench then - club captain consigned to the stiffs! And if he plays like did last night, he won't be missed - anonymous, apart from when he was f!k ing up. Deary me. Edited February 16, 2023 by Merrick's Marvels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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