Norn Iron Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: 47 minutes ago, elhombrecito said: It's been five months not two. I would also question how this could be called a highly successful partnership over such a short time, but it's just marketing spin. Bristol Sport was mentioned because they've got the Bears contract for the sole reason that they are under the Bristol Sport banner. As somebody else mentioned, previous Bristol Sport kits were made in Scotland. I know, for whatever reason, you are keen to stick up for O'Neills as much as possible, but I'm afraid the quality of previous Bristol Sport clothing is not a reason to do so. I know, for whatever reason, you are keen to stick up for O'Neills as much as possible, but I'm afraid the quality of previous Bristol Sport clothing is not a reason to do so. So what you are saying is that my logic is flawed? I'm offended. Regarding my keenness to stick up for O'Neills. It is partly due to the shirts are made locally but all the shirts I have seen in their Megastore in Derry are of very good quality. If you have seen and touched the O'Neills shirt or even bought it and you say they are below standard then I believe you. I was at first surprised when O'Neills was announced as our new manufacturer. However, I was genuinely pleased along with another City family around the corner from us here in Northern Ireland. It is a popular brand that has weathered the Troubles and is accepted by all factions as a reliably good product. However, if a product is genuinely below that of a professional standard, people have a right to say so. I am merely trying to put across other viewpoints here. Consequently, the question is why can O'Neills make such good garments but not for us? Edited June 17, 2023 by Norn Iron Spelling 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Banksy Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: So what you are saying is that my logic is flawed? I'm offended. Regarding my keenness to stick up for O'Neills. It is partly due to the shirts are made locally but all the shirts I have seen in their Megastore in Derry are of very good quality. If you have seen and touched the O'Neills shirt or even bought it and you say they are below standard then I believe you. I was at first surprised when O'Neills was announced as our new manufacturer. However, I was genuinely pleased along with another City family around the corner from us here in Northern Ireland. It is a popular brand that has weathered the Troubles and is accepted by all factions as a reliably good product. However, if a product is genuinely below that of a professional standard, people have a right to say so. I am merely trying to put across other viewpoints here. Consequently, the question is why can O'Neills make such good garments but not for us? All good points .. and hear what you’re saying. After going into our megastore and looking at the products I personally feel they have a way to go when designing kits for football teams. I can’t be the only one here that just think they don’t look right? Maybe this is just all of us being snobby but personally I feel that everything they have created for us so far has been naff and doesn’t look like what a football team should be wearing. I always thought this about Wycombe when they wore it and it never improved over there. Really and truly if we go up no one will care in the slightest and all of this isn’t that big a deal… but as football and City means so much to so many people.. I don’t think it’s unfair to want the club to to look like a proper football team for 1 and 2nd for the club to offer products to their supporters that they want to buy to represent their team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: So what you are saying is that my logic is flawed? I'm offended. Regarding my keenness to stick up for O'Neills. It is partly due to the shirts are made locally but all the shirts I have seen in their Megastore in Derry are of very good quality. If you have seen and touched the O'Neills shirt or even bought it and you say they are below standard then I believe you. I was at first surprised when O'Neills was announced as our new manufacturer. However, I was genuinely pleased along with another City family around the corner from us here in Northern Ireland. It is a popular brand that has wethered the Troubles and is accepted by all factions as a reliably good product. However, if a product is genuinely below that of a professional standard, people have a right to say so. I am merely trying to put across other viewpoints here. Consequently, the question is why can O'Neills make such good garments but not for us? I wouldn't say flawed, just... Misguided To be fair, I don't have any strong opinions on the quality of the kits, as I've only really seen the mini kit up close (which definitely was nowhere near Hummel quality), so not gonna argue that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: So what you are saying is that my logic is flawed? I'm offended. Regarding my keenness to stick up for O'Neills. It is partly due to the shirts are made locally but all the shirts I have seen in their Megastore in Derry are of very good quality. If you have seen and touched the O'Neills shirt or even bought it and you say they are below standard then I believe you. I was at first surprised when O'Neills was announced as our new manufacturer. However, I was genuinely pleased along with another City family around the corner from us here in Northern Ireland. It is a popular brand that has weathered the Troubles and is accepted by all factions as a reliably good product. However, if a product is genuinely below that of a professional standard, people have a right to say so. I am merely trying to put across other viewpoints here. Consequently, the question is why can O'Neills make such good garments but not for us? I went into the shop to look at the quality as I like to buy the shorts each season. The quality is very poor compared to Hummel . I’m too old to buy the shirts now. However I do like to see the players looking the part & not some Sunday league team . Which is what these kits are like . Especially with splat the robin , although that’s obviously nothing to do with O’Neil’s . That solely belongs to crayon boy & his tracing paper 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, OddBallJim said: I can’t speak for Norn Iron but their justification of support for O’Neills has been sound from what I’ve read previously. O’Neills GAA range is of fine quality, no better or worse than any other sports wear. Granted the initial kits they produced for us seem to have been a bit rushed on quality control, but the revised 3rd kit looks to have sorted that. This entire thread has reeked of kit fashion snobbery imo. Yes I think it is down to “kit fashion snobbery”…. We deserve so much better. Compare ourselves to our peers in the championship… anyone carrying an O’Neills logo… actually anyone in the other 92 clubs with this logo? Just so disappointed… as an earlier poster pointed out, worst kit I’ve seen … both home & 3rd. Oh well, we’ll see how successful the sales are for it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 53 minutes ago, Not Banksy said: All good points .. and hear what you’re saying. After going into our megastore and looking at the products I personally feel they have a way to go when designing kits for football teams. I can’t be the only one here that just think they don’t look right? Maybe this is just all of us being snobby but personally I feel that everything they have created for us so far has been naff and doesn’t look like what a football team should be wearing. I always thought this about Wycombe when they wore it and it never improved over there. Really and truly if we go up no one will care in the slightest and all of this isn’t that big a deal… but as football and City means so much to so many people.. I don’t think it’s unfair to want the club to to look like a proper football team for 1 and 2nd for the club to offer products to their supporters that they want to buy to represent their team. Thank you. I agree entirely with your points. It makes it all the more surprising that the new home strip is retro. I too, was disappointed with the look but as others have indicated, it could be our lack of fashion or being snobby! I still think the fault is with who suggested/wanted O'Neills to go back to the double pin-stripe. I don't like it. There, I've said it but I'm not blaming O’Neills currently for the look of the shirt.....especially if in 10 months time we're getting over the fact we've been promoted! Someone had to think up this retro look and then commission it. It has surely to be a BCFC decision as many others are pointing their crayons at! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Lrrr said: Can you buy and own a stock image? See if you can buy it and ask City to pay to be able to use it . Edited June 17, 2023 by BasSavage88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Lrrr said: Can you buy and own a stock image? See if you can buy it and ask City to pay to be able to use it Anyone can own the image for about £30. Theyve changed it and put an additional copyright on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 19 hours ago, JackMarch said: Shameless Imagine JL using google for a new badge In fairness JL has done his best to disguise the image as a canary. Norwich will be furious at his genius idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Mendip City said: In fairness JL has done his best to disguise the image as a canary. Norwich will be furious at his genius idea! The shirts should be 'cheep' then 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Banksy Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Norn Iron said: Thank you. I agree entirely with your points. It makes it all the more surprising that the new home strip is retro. I too, was disappointed with the look but as others have indicated, it could be our lack of fashion or being snobby! I still think the fault is with who suggested/wanted O'Neills to go back to the double pin-stripe. I don't like it. There, I've said it but I'm not blaming O’Neills currently for the look of the shirt.....especially if in 10 months time we're getting over the fact we've been promoted! Someone had to think up this retro look and then commission it. It has surely to be a BCFC decision as many others are pointing their crayons at! It's not necessarily the design though.. it's not actually the design on the home that I dislike and feel that this design manufactured by Hummel/Adidas/Puma/Nike/Castore etc would have been executed effectively. (Though I am bored of every single kit we seem to make being a 'nod to the past'.. loved it when it happened the first couple times but would love to see something new now). Look at the way the fabric around the neck groups as it is stitched, how the rest of the fabric sits on the body and the way that the badge is nearly under the armpit its so far left. It's hard to put my finger on it but the kits don't fit like every other manufacturer out there. In person at games it just looks wrong. (When I have my glasses on at least! haha) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Just seen two lads wearing the new away shirt absolutely shocking…. utter crap Edited June 17, 2023 by sticks 1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: Just seen two lads wearing the new away shirt absolutely shocking…. utter crap The away shirt that's not been revealed or available for sale yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Not Banksy said: It's not necessarily the design though.. it's not actually the design on the home that I dislike and feel that this design manufactured by Hummel/Adidas/Puma/Nike/Castore etc would have been executed effectively. (Though I am bored of every single kit we seem to make being a 'nod to the past'.. loved it when it happened the first couple times but would love to see something new now). Look at the way the fabric around the neck groups as it is stitched, how the rest of the fabric sits on the body and the way that the badge is nearly under the armpit its so far left. It's hard to put my finger on it but the kits don't fit like every other manufacturer out there. In person at games it just looks wrong. (When I have my glasses on at least! haha) Well made points. It seems a thing these days to have the stitching clearly on view at the bottom of the v. I've never liked that as it just doesn't look right. You may have hit the nail on the head re the badge. It does indeed look too far left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: The away shirt that's not been revealed or available for sale yet? Must have copies? yellow with the crap robin on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC81 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just been into the club shop to go and collect my sons shirt as part of his season ticket. No home shirts in his size, or goalkeeper shirts in his size, which he wanted to buy separately . My other boy was there as well and wanted his first City kit, no kits whatsoever in sizes 3-4 year old. Asked behind the counter for extra sizes and said that everything they had out was what was available and best to order online. I checked online when I was in the shop and all out of stock of the 3-4 year old, so asked again and said probably be back in the end of this month beginning of next. I thought the whole point from moving from Hummel was the lack of supply, and seems very odd to not have many in stock when the kids vouchers came out this week?? I hate to moan about the club as I can see we are trying to turn things around, but we always seem to mess up on the merchandise side! Very poor from the club as probably would have ended up spending best part of £150 in the shop this afternoon if it was well stocked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, SouthStand Sandwich said: Just so disappointed… as an earlier poster pointed out, worst kit I’ve seen … both home & 3rd. Oh well, we’ll see how successful the sales are for it. The Adidas "Star Trek" kit wants a word Edited June 17, 2023 by SecretSam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, sticks 1969 said: Must have copies? yellow with the crap robin on them I've not seen the photos, but don't you mean the 3rd kit? The yellow kit is the 3rd kit, not the away kit which has not been released yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, RedM said: I've not seen the photos, but don't you mean the 3rd kit? The yellow kit is the 3rd kit, not the away kit which has not been released yet. The 3 rd kit it is then but still shocking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, sticks 1969 said: The 3 rd kit it is then but still shocking I agree. Just wanted to warn you that we still got the away shirt to come yet! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, RedM said: I agree. Just wanted to warn you that we still got the away shirt to come yet! Many thanks red m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMarch Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, sticks 1969 said: Just seen two lads wearing the new away shirt absolutely shocking…. utter crap DHgate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 My other sporting team, Somerset CCC aren’t doing much better on the shirt front 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, ralphindevon said: My other sporting team, Somerset CCC aren’t doing much better on the shirt front Dear God, what is that abomination? It looks like he`s spilt Tango all down his left arm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, Lanterne Rouge said: Dear God, what is that abomination? It looks like he`s spilt Tango all down his left arm. I’ve not seen a single positive comment yet. Have they hired Jon as creative director? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, RedM said: I agree. Just wanted to warn you that we still got the away shirt to come yet! Another kit meltdown. Can't wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Banksy Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, ralphindevon said: My other sporting team, Somerset CCC aren’t doing much better on the shirt front Was gunna post this hahah! My team too. Not going well is it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Not Banksy said: Was gunna post this hahah! My team too. Not going well is it! Most of the players won't mind as it's for the 50 over cup and we usually lose 12 of our players to the 100 meaning they won't have to wear it. But I'm not sure what they were thinking there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just remember when slagging the shirts off. We had this, all be it for one game , nothing can match it for eye watering ugliness . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Just remember when slagging the shirts off. We had this, all be it for one game , nothing can match it for eye watering ugliness . Jon Lansdown is a creative genius. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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