Markthehorn Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, pillred said: I make it 5 points. They will be 2nd bottom 2 points behind 4th bottom Luton ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: Exactly- hardly a punishment really . If they are then relegated, how much will they receive in parachute payments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Coach said: And all goes quiet on Man City and Chelsea… Everton had one charge didn't they? Man City have a 100+? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 It's a landmark decision. I'm happy to see it but it should have been higher probably, Written Reasons https://www.premierleague.com/news/3788486 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, CityReds said: Everton now on 4, Luton on 6 but Everton have 9 goal advantage Yes, but Bournemouth are on 9 points and 3 go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: They will be 2nd bottom 2 points behind 4th bottom Luton ? No Bournemouth are 4th bottom on 9 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Super said: Everton had one charge didn't they? Man City have a 100+? Quite, the Man City case is much more complex and the latest Chelsea stuff has only just come to light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, pillred said: Yes, but Bournemouth are on 9 points and 3 go down. Luton 6 Sheff. U 5 Everton 4 Burnley 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 minute ago, pillred said: Yes, but Bournemouth are on 9 points and 3 go down Everton will go to 19th, putting Sheffield United up to 18th and Luton up to 17th Everton will be 2 points behind Luton, who as it stands, are in a position of safety 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityReds Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, pillred said: No Bournemouth are 4th bottom on 9 points. Not when the tables get updated, it will be as follows: 16th Bournemouth 9 points 17th Luton 6 points 18th Sheff Utd 5 points 19th Everton 4 points 20th Burnley 4 points Edited November 17, 2023 by CityReds Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Fammyfan said: Everton will go to 19th, putting Sheffield United up to 18th and Luton up to 17th Everton will be 2 points behind Luton, who as it stands, are in a position of safety Yes I see now of course everyone moves up one place (face palms himself :laugh:) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) They should have found a way to dock when Everton still on 7 pts. Big psychological difference tbh. Not saying it was a conspiracy but the timing was perhaps a bit favourable to Everton. Edited November 17, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, pillred said: Yes I see now of course everyone moves up one place (face palms himself :laugh:) Well, Burnley don't 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 This should have happened last season. The premier league dragged it out. They'd have been relegated last season if this didn't take so long. Can see the relegated clubs taking legal action against the premier league and or Everton now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fammyfan Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) It's a really lenient punishment for extreme losses, the punishment happens at a time where Everton can overcome the deduction in probably the weakest premiership league in recent years. It's frustrating that the punishment will not have the impact of warrants. Edited November 17, 2023 by Fammyfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Seems the PL reject the concept of player trading related P&S exclusions. Over to you EFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 Mint ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: This should have happened last season. The premier league dragged it out. They'd have been relegated last season if this didn't take so long. Can see the relegated clubs taking legal action against the premier league and or Everton now. They did more than drag it out, they told Burnley, Leeds and Leicester that Everton had not breached FFP. This late action is simply in support of the Premier League's continued lobbying to water down the powers of the Independent Regulator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 If your Everton you just shut your mouth and get on with that - very lenient considering. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Seems the PL reject the concept of player trading related P&S exclusions. Over to you EFL? I’m not sure it does. The difference (£32.7m) between Everton’s £87.1m and PL’s view that it should be £120.8m suggests it could be anything. The transfer trading was £61m, so it’s not that, although it could be partly of that I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, 22A said: If they are then relegated, how much will they receive in parachute payments? No idea - guess that won’t change . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, pillred said: Yes I see now of course everyone moves up one place (face palms himself :laugh:) To be fair to you, until they updated their article a few minutes ago, the BBC were also reporting that they were 5 points from safety so you were in good company! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, chinapig said: They did more than drag it out, they told Burnley, Leeds and Leicester that Everton had not breached FFP. This late action is simply in support of the Premier League's continued lobbying to water down the powers of the Independent Regulator. Aha I remember that now! There is going to be some lawyers rubbing their hands together right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rob k said: If your Everton you just shut your mouth and get on with that - very lenient considering. Unfortunately there are 3 teams much worse then them so they will probably still stay up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 I find it bizarre why Everton are singled out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, TV Tom said: I find it bizarre why Everton are singled out Man C will be punished at some point but probably got more lawyers on the case . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: Man C will be punished at some point but probably got more lawyers on the case . When they are 12 points clear with 3 to play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’m not sure it does. The difference (£32.7m) between Everton’s £87.1m and PL’s view that it should be £120.8m suggests it could be anything. The transfer trading was £61m, so it’s not that, although it could be partly of that I guess. I'll have to go back and re-read everything again later. On that particular issue though, it seemed to be Everton argued for it and PL against. There was multiple issues, the claim that was in some media back in June that it was just a minor tax issue seems to have been completely incorrect or false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Stone Posted November 17, 2023 Report Share Posted November 17, 2023 53 minutes ago, The Coach said: And all goes quiet on Man City and Chelsea… Man City 115 cases apparently, they will be playing National league North at this rate 55 minutes ago, The Coach said: And all goes quiet on Man City and Chelsea… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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