Dolman_Stand Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Why would we accept a worse deal from Bournemouth? We wouldn't, we don't know the make up of the deals on offer as fans. I was guessing at what @Kid in the Riot may have been told with it being less than £25m guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Just8 said: While i agree I'd like to see another midfielder sign if Scott departs. McCrorie has been mooted to easily slot in to midfield. Nige has recently mentioned Roberts can too. And lets not forget Benarous is on the way back and was exceptional before his injury. Don't think we'll be seeing any more than a GK and perhaps CB. Both Roberts and McCrorie are predominantly full backs/centre backs and I don’t particularly want to see square pegs in round holes. Benarous may be a bonus but until he is back playing first team football can’t be relied upon. We were a player light in midfield when HNM went out on loan last season, we’ll be in the same position when Scott goes now Knight has arrived. I don’t expect us to go out and spend big but we need one more in there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, KegCity said: Newman is down the gate a lot for a variety of reasons. Scott and Semenyo were both on their radar since January. If they won't pay over 30 for JWP, who has bags of Premier League experience I'd be very surprised if they pay similar for a player who doesn't. West Ham's priority will be players to keep them in the Premier League over potential. With JWP his value is limited due to the fact West Ham will be unlikely to make any money from him in the future due to his age. We all know Scott has incredible potential and therefore the possibility of making huge amounts of money off of him in the future, hence why he's going for 25 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddarwedlocker Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Almost 150 pages on a 19 year old kid, who is still at the club haha. Sad bunch arent we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 He leaves with my my best wishes, it will be tough to hear bournmuff fans rave over him, and they will, but this should secure us financially now for the next 3 seasons, we can be competitive in the transfer market and be on the front foot. Genuinely believe we are only 2/3 players away from something special, but on the other hand only a couple of further academy departures from a rebuild. Interesting times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) One advantage Alex will have about going to Bournemouth's Vitality Stadium is that it'll feel just like playing at our training ground. Edited August 2, 2023 by Lord Northski 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Nigel Pearson in particular will be very disappointed considering he said two days ago "I won't be happy if it's under 25 million" We've previously rejected a 22 million offer from Wolves so Bournemouths bid must be higher than that which doesn't leave much room for your suggested sizable add ons to take it to the 25 million figure. Think you're just trying to double down. Let it go mate. The £22 million offer included add ons though? It was more like £18 million plus £4 million add ons hence why it was rejected 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Nigel Pearson in particular will be very disappointed considering he said two days ago "I won't be happy if it's under 25 million" We've previously rejected a 22 million offer from Wolves so Bournemouths bid must be higher than that which doesn't leave much room for your suggested sizable add ons to take it to the 25 million figure. Think you're just trying to double down. Let it go mate. In fairness it has nothing to do with Pearson how much he gets sold for. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: With JWP his value is limited due to the fact West Ham will be unlikely to make any money from him in the future due to his age. We all know Scott has incredible potential and therefore the possibility of making huge amounts of money off of him in the future, hence why he's going for 25 million. West Ham need a Rice replacement and JWP is obviously the better choice for what they need. No doubting Scott’s potential but potential won’t keep them in the league. Ward Prowse is a Premier League midfielder who’ll hit the ground running. If they won’t go over 30 million for him they’re not spending 25 on Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Southampton have quickly rejected West Hams bid for JWP. The bid was 27 million upfront and 3 million in either installments and add ons. Interested to see if the Bournemouth negotiations will see them come to the table. We have leaked this for a reason... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, UpTheReds said: Wolves side of it. I smell bullshit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 22 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Nigel Pearson in particular will be very disappointed considering he said two days ago "I won't be happy if it's under 25 million" We've previously rejected a 22 million offer from Wolves so Bournemouths bid must be higher than that which doesn't leave much room for your suggested sizable add ons to take it to the 25 million figure. The £22m offer included £5m of add-ons. If the total package is £25m then why would Nigel Pearson be unhappy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: I smell bullshit Depends how the deal was structured. Might have been rising to £25m with myriad add-ons although seen a few posts on the Wolves forum a few weeks back that suggested were trying to spark a bidding war and being tricky etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 When Nige said we were potentially signing one more I assumed he meant GK or CB which still could be the case but perhaps we're getting in a replacement for Alex as we speak. I wouldn't be surprised as we've been on the ball with replacements so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, KegCity said: West Ham need a Rice replacement and JWP is obviously the better choice for what they need. No doubting Scott’s potential but potential won’t keep them in the league. Ward Prowse is a Premier League midfielder who’ll hit the ground running. If they won’t go over 30 million for him they’re not spending 25 on Scott. But Bournemouth will? JWP isn't a direct replacement for Rice in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, KegCity said: Both Roberts and McCrorie are predominantly full backs/centre backs and I don’t particularly want to see square pegs in round holes. Benarous may be a bonus but until he is back playing first team football can’t be relied upon. We were a player light in midfield when HNM went out on loan last season, we’ll be in the same position when Scott goes now Knight has arrived. I don’t expect us to go out and spend big but we need one more in there. No we aren't, King James Knight Naismith when fit Benarous Williams That's 6 players playing for 2 maybe 3 places You've also got other players who are perfectly capable there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Depends how the deal was structured. Might have been rising to £25m with myriad add-ons although seen a few posts on the Wolves forum a few weeks back that suggested were trying to spark a bidding war and being tricky etc. No I'm talking about the wolves bit, We never accepted a bid from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 We absolutely need to replace him with another creative attacking midfielder, someone like Scott Twine or Finn Azaz. Knight isn’t that profile and I can’t take much more of Weimann trying to play that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Super said: In fairness it has nothing to do with Pearson how much he gets sold for. I tend to agree in most cases, but given the hand he was dealt, the steadying of the ship, the 2 Year downsizing, which helped to necessitate a strong promotion of youth, the forced austerity for almost 12 months, by which I mean January 2022, summer 2022 and until Semenyo was sold January 2023...I think he would be rather disgruntled and have very decent grounds. Edited August 2, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Monkeh said: No I'm talking about the wolves bit, We never accepted a bid from them We went cold, but seemingly personal terms can be agreed before a bid accepted these days. Varies of course. Edited August 2, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: I tend to agree on most cases, but given the hand he was dealt, the steadying of the ship, the downsizing, the forced austerity for almost 12 months, by which I mean January 2022, summer 2022 and until Semenyo was sold January 2023...I think he would be rather disgruntled and have very decent grounds. Why, he's a manager, he knows the financial situation, He know his budget He knows Scott would leave once a suitable bid had been received He'd know how much that price would be and he knows how much of that he would be likely to spend I'm really doubtful he'd be disgruntled, Disappointed at losing a good player yes, disgruntled doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Depends how the deal was structured. Might have been rising to £25m with myriad add-ons although seen a few posts on the Wolves forum a few weeks back that suggested were trying to spark a bidding war and being tricky etc. Am I right in thinking that Pearson and his agent have a good friendship with John Percy? If so that suggests to me Percy is reporting on this to alert other clubs to the fact that we are in advanced negotiations with Bournemouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 One report I saw, today, from some guy called Ekrem Konur who I've never heard of, has suggested the Bournemouth offer is €30M. Don't think I believe it but if true at current exchange rate that's around £25.75M which would seem to meet our valuation. Structure of any deal could still kill it of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hocca said: We absolutely need to replace him with another creative attacking midfielder, someone like Scott Twine or Finn Azaz. Knight isn’t that profile and I can’t take much more of Weimann trying to play that role. Yeah, nightmare watching him score 22 goals from there the other year wasn't it? 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Why would we accept a worse deal from Bournemouth? Who are those people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Monkeh said: No we aren't, King James Knight Naismith when fit Benarous Williams That's 6 players playing for 2 maybe 3 places You've also got other players who are perfectly capable there I mean three of them are injured or regularly injured and ones 34. Add that none of them are similar to Scott I’d hope we get someone else in if finances allow. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, W-S-M Seagull said: Am I right in thinking that Pearson and his agent have a good friendship with John Percy? Yes, it was me that revealed this. Shame you don't listen to anything else I say! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: But Newman has been down Ashton Gate plenty of times to watch Scott as verified by Owers. Newman is very much on the side of Moyes so therefore Scott would be one of their targets rather than the new guys. Scott was very much a target for Newman and Noble, but Moyes allegedly went cold on signing him. They have now moved on to Ward Prowse and Scott looks destined for the South Coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Monkeh said: No we aren't, King James Knight Naismith when fit Benarous Williams That's 6 players playing for 2 maybe 3 places You've also got other players who are perfectly capable there If King starts more than 5 games in the league we’ve had a nightmare with injuries. Benarous is an unknown quantity due to his his knees being made of rich teas. Personally not happy with Williams, James, Naismith and Knight fighting for the three starting spots when Williams and Naismith can’t be relied upon over the course of a season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hocca Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Bard said: Yeah, nightmare watching him score 22 goals from there the other year wasn't it? Completely different role in a different formation , he’s not the man to pick up spaces in the pockets and get his head up quickly and make the right passes. I like Weimann just not in this particular role in a 433. His strengths are in behind the defence imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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