cotswoldred2 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jazzy said: Slightly off topic but one of the oddest City related moments I’ve witnessed was seeing Gary O’Neil hobble around the London Underground on his own only a couple of hours after we lost 2-0 to Brentford. I will raise you ,returning to London from Ashton Gate when we we beat Man U in the old second division, I was in the same Tube carriage as Stuart Houston, he was sporting to shiners, I had to ask how? he said 'Gow'. 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Super said: Sacked by Bournemouth. Crazy he did a superb job. Seems a very harsh decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: I'd argue the same about Big Sam too, I've no idea where he gained his reputation as a firefighter from, but when you look at the three jobs he had for a reasonable amount of time, Bolton, West Ham and Blackburn, he built a pretty decent side. His recruitment was always a strength and I still firmly believe if he had a job for a few years he'd be able to replicate some of the early success of his career. Everton would be nowhere near where they are now had they stuck with him, for instance. I'd have Big Sam here in a heartbeat. Big Sam is one I don't think got the credit or opportunities he necessarily deserved for sure. May be pushing towards the end now but he needed some time to build something- not something he has often been afforded, at Blackburn he was crazily sacked by new owners (Venkys) and then Steve Kean got given the role. That worked well.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 New American owner, who has jumped from NFL to Ice hockey to IFL (indoor) . I think it was always on the cards, he did well to see the season out. I have a feeling @chinapig is on the money with a "name" coming in, or a higher profile person in Bill Foley'a eyes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: I'd argue the same about Big Sam too, I've no idea where he gained his reputation as a firefighter from, but when you look at the three jobs he had for a reasonable amount of time, Bolton, West Ham and Blackburn, he built a pretty decent side. His recruitment was always a strength and I still firmly believe if he had a job for a few years he'd be able to replicate some of the early success of his career. Everton would be nowhere near where they are now had they stuck with him, for instance. I'd have Big Sam here in a heartbeat. Except he said when he left Leeds that he wasn't interested in a project. Can't see him doing the kind of challenging rebuild job Nigel has done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said: This has Jessie Marsch written all over it surely? Beware the Ides of Marsch! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: Except he said when he left Leeds that he wasn't interested in a project. Can't see him doing the kind of challenging rebuild job Nigel has done Yeah, it's been a decade or so now since he had that sort of gig. Since he left West Ham all his jobs have been mid-season starts and not staying beyond the end of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 34 minutes ago, Jazzy said: Slightly off topic but one of the oddest City related moments I’ve witnessed was seeing Gary O’Neil hobble around the London Underground on his own only a couple of hours after we lost 2-0 to Brentford. I think our entire treatment of him as a player was negligible to say the least. Probably got a fair few long term issues because of it tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, petehinton said: I think our entire treatment of him as a player was negligible to say the least. Probably got a fair few long term issues because of it tbh. Same with Joe Williams, who went public about it. Which is why Dave Rennie is still Nigel's best signing imo. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Isn’t Potter the most likely? You can understand why they would not necessarily rely on a novice going forward, despite his short term success. Odd to have given him an 18 month contract though. Perhaps they assumed they were going down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Gary gets a bit of stick (a pointy one maybe) but I don't think he was ever truly fully fit when he was here. He wouldn't be the first player in recent years to be played against the better advice of some. Also wouldn't be the first to be in the hands of dodgy medical staff either, but I speculate about both points there. He has coached at Liverpool, and performed wonders at Bournemouth, despite originally being seen as a stop gap appointment. This has all the marks of someone being named within hours. I don't think he'll have a problem getting another job, if he wants it. Maybe one of the more unfashionable Prem sides will take a chance if something comes up, or even a Championship side hoping to build something, as someone alluded to, maybe someone like us if Nige was to leave (hopefully no time soon though). His stock will be fairly high. Would be surprised if he isn't in a job by September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Percy Pig said: Indeed, I'm probably thinking of the missed opportunity from the last decade or so for him. Its just sad that one of the more evolutionary minds English football has produced has been pigeon holed into the same space as Warnock etc. I absolutely agree that he was an innovator in his day, especially at Bolton, but in due course the game passed him by. What West Ham and Everton fans disliked was the style of football. Not that those clubs have recruited managers very well since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, petehinton said: I think our entire treatment of him as a player was negligible to say the least. Probably got a fair few long term issues because of it tbh. I think you mean negligent, although, possibly, both are true! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Job for Lasso. Seriously, I think Jason Sudeikis could pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 I recall being excited by him signing. Wasn’t there some whoha about his wages, kicked off by Marlon’s father allegedly. Shame he barely played. Anyway crazy decision by Muff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Has to be a job for Graham Potter I'd have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, Porto Red said: I think you mean negligent, although, possibly, both are true! Hahaha bloody autocorrect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Redstart said: Has to be a job for Graham Potter I'd have thought. Nope 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, !james said: Nope Never heard of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Was probably lined up in advance, also remember new owners often want their own man- he can perhaps work permit rules permitting, tap the La Liga market a bit too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortia Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 As great of a job that O'Neil did, and I think it is ******* bonkers and unfair to sack him, you would imagine someone like Iraiola has a 'higher ceiling' in how he could progress the club. He's played consistently at the top level and been managed by some exceptional managers. Of course there are no guarantees, and just having played under some good managers is not enough, but it's presumably a calculated gamble. I'm gutted for O'Neil though and he has been very hard done by. Hopefully he can find a good job soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, !james said: Nope Wikipedia "He has the world's largest collection of hatch backs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Distortia said: As great of a job that O'Neil did, and I think it is ******* bonkers and unfair to sack him, you would imagine someone like Iraiola has a 'higher ceiling' in how he could progress the club. He's played consistently at the top level and been managed by some exceptional managers. Of course there are no guarantees, and just having played under some good managers is not enough, but it's presumably a calculated gamble. I'm gutted for O'Neil though and he has been very hard done by. Hopefully he can find a good job soon. You're making him sound like one of those player to manager coaches like Lampard or Gerrard, but he's already had managerial success and was playing good football at Vallecano last season (they wanted to retain him) finishing in 11th. He was also Leeds' preferred candidate, but Vallecano refused the approach (hence refusing the contract offer from Vallecano). He also got Mirandes (A newly promoted Spanish side into their second tier) to the semi-final of the Copa-del-Dey, which would be like Plymouth doing it in the FA Cup this season. It's a great appointment, but the treatment of O'Neill is undoubtedly foul in this case. Edited June 19, 2023 by Tom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) Could be good for Gary. Stock was high after keeping them up and think second season syndrome could easily set in next season.... Gets a nice payoff I presume too and may be able to bide his time to pick the right suitor. Edited June 19, 2023 by marcofisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, !james said: Nope Obviously Lee must have decided to take the Leeds job instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 Absurd decision. Although he’s done enough to make other clubs sit up and take notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Leveller said: Isn’t Potter the most likely? You can understand why they would not necessarily rely on a novice going forward, despite his short term success. Odd to have given him an 18 month contract though. Perhaps they assumed they were going down? There was a clause in his contract giving him an extension if he kept them up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 The only one coming out of this well is Gary tbf. Can easily see him managing in the prem again this coming season with the amount of sackings their are mid season. Either way I think sacking him is ludicrous. Would’ve built a good rapport with the team and I’d imagine the dressing room would all be behind him since he’s kept em up. Should’ve at least been given the start of the season. Especially with how weak the prem looks next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, BigTone said: Seems a very harsh decision GO’N Gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Distortia said: As great of a job that O'Neil did, and I think it is ******* bonkers and unfair to sack him, you would imagine someone like Iraiola has a 'higher ceiling' in how he could progress the club. He's played consistently at the top level and been managed by some exceptional managers. Of course there are no guarantees, and just having played under some good managers is not enough, but it's presumably a calculated gamble. I'm gutted for O'Neil though and he has been very hard done by. Hopefully he can find a good job soon. Think their fans feel the same . Appreciate he did a very good job but the owners want more . Risky though as my club can testify ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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