Red Army 87 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Keen to see what this is, considering those whose buy in is essential won’t have a clue what it is even when they hold up their ‘card’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, IAmNick said: My "what they're doing" was a why they're doing it I suppose. I think it's pretty odd to expect people to do something if they have no idea what it is (beyond holding up a card) or why, and then deflect when people are asked. Seems rather "exclusive" of the majority of people there to me It’s really not that big of a deal. I’ve been in S82 a few times with a season ticket. But I tend to move around the ground to get a different view of the game/atmosphere. If you’re a regular/ST holder then you would have noticed S82 have done plenty of displays in the past. All City related funnily enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just now, Lew-T said: It’s really not that big of a deal. I’ve been in S82 a few times with a season ticket. But I tend to move around the ground to get a different view of the game/atmosphere. If you’re a regular/ST holder then you would have noticed S82 have done plenty of displays in the past. All City related funnily enough. Well loads of people have asked so clearly people are interested! I've had a season ticket for many years, I'm well aware they do displays. That's got nothing to do with this though - thousands of people sit/stand around there, if you expect them to join in with something specific you should at least give them a rough idea of what it is imo. That's hardly unreasonable. It's not like people are even being negative about is, they just want to know! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Red Army 87 said: Keen to see what this is, considering those whose buy in is essential won’t have a clue what it is even when they hold up their ‘card’ It's OK, they've posted on the Brum forum asking if they could all hold up mirrors. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: So you are expecting everyone in the three blocks to take part even though they don't have any idea what the display will be about. Not very democratic is it. Here's a positive guess. A big thank you to Alex Scott. God that would be cringe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, IAmNick said: Well loads of people have asked so clearly people are interested! I've had a season ticket for many years, I'm well aware they do displays. That's got nothing to do with this though - thousands of people sit/stand around there, if you expect them to join in with something specific you should at least give them a rough idea of what it is imo. That's hardly unreasonable. It's not like people are even being negative about is, they just want to know! Relax my man, I’m sure it’ll be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, IAmNick said: My "what they're doing" was a why they're doing it I suppose. I think it's pretty odd to expect people to do something if they have no idea what it is (beyond holding up a card) or why, and then deflect when people are asked. Seems rather "exclusive" of the majority of people there to me It's being difficult if people ask you what they're going to be holding up/displaying and you don't tell them imo Apologies if that's how it's come across, as certainly not been the intent. I understand the logic behind the point you seem to be trying to push, however to be honest I'd interpreted the questions of 'what is it' etc to be more of an inquisitive/interested nature, rather than an "i'm not doing it unless I know all the details" one. And as I said earlier I/we are not being deliberately ambiguous or 'superior' in not giving a detailed description of what we hope to be an effective display. We just also don't want to detract from the (intended) effect. So I'm not sure it's as an unreasonable position to take, as you seem to be making it out to be... The alternative I suppose is that we offer no indication that there is anything planned and rely on some 2000+ people noticing a piece of Red/White card next to their seat, and knowing what and when to do with it. I'm not aware of a 'divisive' or controversial display which has ever been organised by us, which has caused those who partake in making it a success to feel that they have been manipulated in to presenting something not reflective of their own views etc (we do have a fairly obvious common purpose, after all. Don't we?) We can ask, as we have done, for people to help make it a success. However It is of course everyone's own prerogative, as to whether they choose to do so or not. And fingers crossed the majority opt for the former Edited August 18, 2023 by James 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, James said: Apologies if that's how it's come across, as certainly not been the intent. I understand the logic behind the point you seem to be trying to push, however to be honest I'd interpreted the questions of 'what is it' etc to be more of an inquisitive/interested nature, rather than an "i'm not doing it unless I know all the details" one. And as I said earlier I/we are not being deliberately ambiguous or 'superior' in not giving a detailed description of what we hope to be an effective display. We just also don't want to detract from the (intended) effect. So I'm not sure it's as an unreasonable position to take, as you seem to be making it out to be... The alternative I suppose is that we offer no indication that there is anything planned and rely on some 2000+ people noticing a piece of Red/White card next to their seat, and knowing what and when to do with it. I'm not aware of a 'divisive' or controversial display which has ever been organised by us, which has caused those who partake in making it a success to feel that they have been manipulated in to presenting something not reflective of their own views etc (we do have a fairly obvious common purpose, after all. Don't we?) We can ask, as we have done, for people to help make it a success. However It is of course everyone's own prerogative, as to whether they choose to do so or not. And fingers crossed the majority opt for the former I didn't mean for it to be an "I'm not doing it unless" one so sorry if that's how it came across! I'm genuinely interested, especially as I have a new baby so might not be able to make it to the game. I hope it works well and people join in - but I still think you should let people know ahead of time personally to get them on board as much as possible. Edited August 18, 2023 by IAmNick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivs Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 I'm in the South Stand further along. Please could I ask all in S25, S26 and S27 to turn precisely 90º to your left on the stroke of 14:57. Thanks. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Chivs said: I'm in the South Stand further along. Please could I ask all in S25, S26 and S27 to turn precisely 90º to your left on the stroke of 14:57. Thanks. Watch loads turn to their right instead! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 It’s just photos of people in their seats from the Preston game. Means you can hide behind it and have a pint while holding it up without the stewards ever knowing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Well I for one will not be partaking in any display. I do sit in the Dolman mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, James said: Apologies if that's how it's come across, as certainly not been the intent. I understand the logic behind the point you seem to be trying to push, however to be honest I'd interpreted the questions of 'what is it' etc to be more of an inquisitive/interested nature, rather than an "i'm not doing it unless I know all the details" one. And as I said earlier I/we are not being deliberately ambiguous or 'superior' in not giving a detailed description of what we hope to be an effective display. We just also don't want to detract from the (intended) effect. So I'm not sure it's as an unreasonable position to take, as you seem to be making it out to be... The alternative I suppose is that we offer no indication that there is anything planned and rely on some 2000+ people noticing a piece of Red/White card next to their seat, and knowing what and when to do with it. I'm not aware of a 'divisive' or controversial display which has ever been organised by us, which has caused those who partake in making it a success to feel that they have been manipulated in to presenting something not reflective of their own views etc (we do have a fairly obvious common purpose, after all. Don't we?) We can ask, as we have done, for people to help make it a success. However It is of course everyone's own prerogative, as to whether they choose to do so or not. And fingers crossed the majority opt for the former Hopefully the club are more supportive of this than the time they tried to create a St George cross for the game against Cardiff and it all went a bit squiffy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 It's going to be the big reveal for our new away kit isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby girl Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 Why are people always so negative about what S82(the actual group do)? Some of these guys put a lot of time. money and effort into what they do. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 A small hint would be nice. Is it a film, a book or a play? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Bobby girl said: Why are people always so negative about what S82(the actual group do)? Some of these guys put a lot of time. money and effort into what they do. This is a perfect example of why. The group are telling people to do something, but not telling them what it is or why 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always red Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 I'm in S25 and I'll help but I do think all this S82/Ultras c**p is overblown If what they do improves the atmosphere yep, I'm all for it but they've also done some really stupid stuff (stupid purile chants-please stop the Joey Bartons mother c**p, throwing stuff onto pitch, invading blocks in the Dolman) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Always red said: I'm in S25 and I'll help but I do think all this S82/Ultras c**p is overblown If what they do improves the atmosphere yep, I'm all for it but they've also done some really stupid stuff (stupid purile chants-please stop the Joey Bartons mother c**p, throwing stuff onto pitch, invading blocks in the Dolman) Won't half of them be in block A ? If they've taken their cards with them it will be like a giant wordle! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Always red said: I'm in S25 and I'll help but I do think all this S82/Ultras c**p is overblown If what they do improves the atmosphere yep, I'm all for it but they've also done some really stupid stuff (stupid purile chants-please stop the Joey Bartons mother c**p, throwing stuff onto pitch, invading blocks in the Dolman) Thanks for your support on tomorrow's display! Though you've also raised a common misconception which i'm glad about, as you've given me the opportunity to clarify. (Although sorry if I've misinterpreted and you were talking generally, as opposed to about S82 specifically, although may still be useful info for others!) None of the "stupid stuff" you've detailed there, has anything to do with the (sometimes ) organised group - Section 82. You are referring to other people, such as yourself, who have tickets in blocks S25-27, as they enjoy being able to stand, sing etc etc. But whom wouldn't consider themselves part of S82. As a group we try to provide a positive platform, for both fans and the team. As a group, we are relatively small in number (less than 30) so focus our time and efforts (and money) on building on that platform, rather than the other things you've mentioned. Edited August 18, 2023 by James 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziderarmy Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 hours ago, cidered abroad said: So you are expecting everyone in the three blocks to take part even though they don't have any idea what the display will be about. Not very democratic is it. Here's a positive guess. A big thank you to Alex Scott. Christ, Alex hasn’t died and I wouldn’t even have him anywhere near legendary status. Half decent player with alot of promise who has jumped ship at the first sniff of a premiership move which I don’t blame him for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) I’m not part of S82 any more but was a founder member. It’s odd to see people get so worked up about a card display. We only ever organised 1 card display before, to my knowledge. It was for when Gerry Gow sadly passed away. See below. It took me ages to coordinate the right colours for the right seats to ensure it looked anywhere near decent. And then an hour or so for 20 odd people to set it up. And the key to all of it was that everyone participated. Hopefully those complaining about not knowing what it is will ease up and just get on with it. It’s not going to be anything controversial like Celtic talking about Palestine or something! I’m sure whatever it is, is completely innocent and supportive. I honestly don’t understand why there is such negativity toward this. I’ll be up in the family stand with a great view and I hope it all goes well and enough people participate to not make it look like an embarrassment. If it fails and looks embarrassing because hardly anyone participates, I’d imagine the same people complaining on here will be back here saying “what a load of crap”. Lighten up, get involved, and make it a success. Edited August 18, 2023 by Harry 15 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Always red said: I'm in S25 and I'll help but I do think all this S82/Ultras c**p is overblown If what they do improves the atmosphere yep, I'm all for it but they've also done some really stupid stuff (stupid purile chants-please stop the Joey Bartons mother c**p, throwing stuff onto pitch, invading blocks in the Dolman) I’m sure you’ve got loads of ideas. You should post them and others will join in Alternatively I can’t wait to see you giving it your all in s25. Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 10 hours ago, James said: Please read and share!. Especially if you'll be in blocks S25, S26 & S27 for tomorrow's game. This is a display that will mean a lot, to a lot of people, so 100% participation is essential! Thank you The 2014 element is intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Harry said: I’m not part of S82 any more but was a founder member. It’s odd to see people get so worked up about a card display. We only ever organised 1 card display before, to my knowledge. It was for when Gerry Gow sadly passed away. See below. It took me ages to coordinate the right colours for the right seats to ensure it looked anywhere near decent. And then an hour or so for 20 odd people to set it up. And the key to all of it was that everyone participated. Hopefully those complaining about not knowing what it is will ease up and just get on with it. It’s not going to be anything controversial like Celtic talking about Palestine or something! I’m sure whatever it is, is completely innocent and supportive. I honestly don’t understand why there is such negativity toward this. I’ll be up in the family stand with a great view and I hope it all goes well and enough people participate to not make it look like an embarrassment. If it fails and looks embarrassing because hardly anyone participates, I’d imagine the same people complaining on here will be back here saying “what a load of crap”. Lighten up, get involved, and make it a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, pongo88 said: This is a perfect example of why. The group are telling people to do something, but not telling them what it is or why Asking not telling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 I think James has been very respectful in his request for people to join in while at the same time acknowledging it is optional. Best of luck to you for tomorrow mate and don't forget that many people appreciate what you and your pals do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziderarmy Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Open End Numb Legs said: A small hint would be nice. Is it a film, a book or a play? I think I know what it will be, but I’m not going to post it in here for obvious reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transfer reader Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Harry said: I’m not part of S82 any more but was a founder member. It’s odd to see people get so worked up about a card display. We only ever organised 1 card display before, to my knowledge. It was for when Gerry Gow sadly passed away. See below. It took me ages to coordinate the right colours for the right seats to ensure it looked anywhere near decent. And then an hour or so for 20 odd people to set it up. And the key to all of it was that everyone participated. Hopefully those complaining about not knowing what it is will ease up and just get on with it. It’s not going to be anything controversial like Celtic talking about Palestine or something! I’m sure whatever it is, is completely innocent and supportive. I honestly don’t understand why there is such negativity toward this. I’ll be up in the family stand with a great view and I hope it all goes well and enough people participate to not make it look like an embarrassment. If it fails and looks embarrassing because hardly anyone participates, I’d imagine the same people complaining on here will be back here saying “what a load of crap”. Lighten up, get involved, and make it a success. Haven't seen anyone worked up about it Have seen people asking what it will be, which is more than valid as a question to ask 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Taunton_BCFC said: God that would be cringe That would be right up there with Birmingham retiring Jude Bellinghams shirt Wet wipes vs Wet wipes today then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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