Curr Avon Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, TDarwall said: A few years ago they sacked Rowett, who was over performing & appointed Zola. It was a disaster. What is it they say about doing the same thing & expecting different results. They were 7th when Rowett was sacked. Gary Rowett: Birmingham City manager sacked by Championship club - BBC Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paulton Red said: Rooney incoming apparently Rooney? Crikey. Now its Sackatha Christie. Edited October 9, 2023 by Curr Avon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: They were 7th when Rowett was sacked. Gary Rowett: Birmingham City manager sacked by Championship club - BBC Sport Eustace 6th, Rowett 7th , if Rooney gets the gig he really wants to stay away from the top 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, 1960maaan said: Eustace 6th, Rowett 7th , if Rooney gets the gig he really wants to stay away from the top 10 It all depends what's in the hit parade, man. I'm down with the kids. Take five now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 This has been the rumour since the summer. They probably made the decision ahead of the last week, as their early season form dropped off…and then they win 2 on the trot. Will be interesting to see how this plays out, I don’t think Rooney is a bad manager btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Changing a manager when doing well is not necessarily a bad move if a better more successful and experienced of the level above happens to become available. Rooney isn't that though, managerial wise. Be interesting to see how he gets on without Rosenior as his number 2. As an aside i can imagine there are City fans looking on jealously at this move wishing we had an owner who did this kind of thing regardless of how daft it sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudgun Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 If I was a Brum fan I would be absolutely fuming. Made good signings, playing well and in the top six. Crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Eustace to QPR? Edited October 9, 2023 by Roger Red Hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Eustace to QPR? Rangers maybe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 44 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: It all depends what's in the hit parade, man. I'm down with the kids. Take five now. Thank you Dave Brubeck 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: They film parts of theirs there & that town looks like a rough part of Belarus. Bit harsh on Belarus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Eustace to QPR? Easier via Paddington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Coming here? Good old Roy 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Welcome t9 modern football , it’s all about the brand , Rooney is a household name eustace is not I’m afraid , nothing to do with how good they are as managers , this could go seriously tits up , however if it goes ok the owners will consider it a master stroke . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Does seem like an odd move and one certainly driven by the name. However, I’ll buck the trend of this thread so far …. Much to my surprise, Rooney did actually do ok at Derby (I’m sure Rosenior was a good assistant too). I thought he’d fail massively in that job but he certainly seemed to have something about his management to be able to galvanise that squad at that time. He’s also done ‘kind of ok’ in the MLS. Started slowly at DC and they finished bottom of their conference last season but he again seems to have stabilised things there and improved them this season. Yes, ditching Eustice right now is a ridiculous decision, but it’s one that’s been very much expected by manager, players and fans all season since the takeover. Rooney, whilst still very new in his managerial career, hasn’t actually done too badly in his 2 roles so far. Much to my initial surprise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Coming here? Good old Roy His timing is brilliant. It’s almost like he’s making it up. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Swiss Toni next? The B.S. statement already indicative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Silly season officially started then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, redkev said: Welcome t9 modern football , it’s all about the brand , Rooney is a household name eustace is not I’m afraid , nothing to do with how good they are as managers , this could go seriously tits up , however if it goes ok the owners will consider it a master stroke . It does make me wonder, if we got new US owners this season, would they sack NP and appoint a 'name'. Albeit they would throw some money at it too unlike the current incumbent post Scott sale! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 4 hours ago, RedM said: TV deal perhaps, like Sunderland, Wrexham etc? God, can you imagine if this was true? If i was in John Eustace's shoes i'd be considering legal action for wrongful dismissal or something. There must be grounds for some sort of legal action if this was the reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) You think not @grifty ? New owners of clubs tend to want their own man sooner or later, this is a prime example. I am still unhappy with the amount we spent in the summer post Scott and given he went but who knows if a hypothetical owner would get rid of NP. It would be shocking to us and grossly unfair but it's a common occurrence in football. I'm very much NP in and tbh a new 2-3 year deal and a bigger budget is what's required IMO. Edited October 9, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: God, can you imagine if this was true? If i was in John Eustace's shoes i'd be considering legal action for wrongful dismissal or something. There must be grounds for some sort of legal action if this was the reason for it. Probably getting his contract paid up so why go to the hassle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Davefevs said: His timing is brilliant. It’s almost like he’s making it up. Now now Dave be nice. Roy is a friend of mine.... When I say friend , I follow him on Twitter and I've stopped calling him a ***t I do wonder what he will Tweet about when Nige does move on. Edited October 9, 2023 by 1960maaan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, BigTone said: Probably getting his contract paid up so why go to the hassle Principle? Was his pay up enough/acceptable in this circumstance? Surely somewhere a line has to be drawn at some point. Appreciate it's probably not the reason for him leaving but it's an interesting thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Keep right on to the end of the . . . cliff. The Roonatics have taken over the asylum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 I've only just picked up on this. Football really has gone quite mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: The Roonatics have taken over the asylum. I've heard that Rooney's career is on the wayne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: Principle? Was his pay up enough/acceptable in this circumstance? Surely somewhere a line has to be drawn at some point. Appreciate it's probably not the reason for him leaving but it's an interesting thought. Er, I'm not really sure what you're getting het up about. Birmingham have just broken a contract. The repercussions will be no more or less than for any other club that chose to dispense with their manager's service, subject to contract. Any pay-off would form part of a legal agreement. They're not going to make his contract paid up unilaterally. The actual agreement can be anything both parties agree to, but realistically it won't involve more money than the outstanding contract is worth. And rather than a payoff, they might agree to continue to pay his salary/difference in salary if he finds another job until completion of the contract term. He'll only be taking legal action if they can't come to a reasonale compromise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Sleepy1968 said: Er, I'm not really sure what you're getting het up about. Birmingham have just broken a contract. The repercussions will be no more or less than for any other club that chose to dispense with their manager's service, subject to contract. Any pay-off would form part of a legal agreement. They're not going to make his contract paid up unilaterally. The actual agreement can be anything both parties agree to, but realistically it won't involve more money than the outstanding contract is worth. And rather than a payoff, they might agree to continue to pay his salary/difference in salary if he finds another job until completion of the contract term. He'll only be taking legal action if they can't come to a reasonale compromise. My point was related to the comment suggested earlier by someone else - the hypothetical reason he might have been sacked - which i dont think is a reasonable or justifiable reason to sack someone. Just talking about that point more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Harry said: Does seem like an odd move and one certainly driven by the name. However, I’ll buck the trend of this thread so far …. Much to my surprise, Rooney did actually do ok at Derby (I’m sure Rosenior was a good assistant too). I thought he’d fail massively in that job but he certainly seemed to have something about his management to be able to galvanise that squad at that time. He’s also done ‘kind of ok’ in the MLS. Started slowly at DC and they finished bottom of their conference last season but he again seems to have stabilised things there and improved them this season. Yes, ditching Eustice right now is a ridiculous decision, but it’s one that’s been very much expected by manager, players and fans all season since the takeover. Rooney, whilst still very new in his managerial career, hasn’t actually done too badly in his 2 roles so far. Much to my initial surprise. Agreed, it isn’t like the Zola decision at all. Still incredibly harsh on a bloke who took over a shitshow & saved them. Doubt he’ll be out of work too long though, decent CV. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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