redsocks Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 We're was Joe Williams yesterday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 I assume you mean where. He’s injured… again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, redsocks said: We're was Joe Williams yesterday ? Injured in a tackle in training on Friday. Diagnosis is he will be out for 2 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said: Injured in a tackle in training on Friday. Diagnosis is he will be out for 2 weeks. Based on our record with injuries that'll be after the next international break then - 25 November 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, RedEyez said: I assume you mean where. He’s injured… again. On the one hand I do feel for the guy. On the other hand, I can’t help but feel let down by his injury record. It’s clearly not his own doing, but is his body capable of meeting the rigorous demands of championship level football on a consistent basis? Frustrates me greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Radio Bristol commented post match that they had seen him walking round in one of those protective boots at the ground yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: On the one hand I do feel for the guy. On the other hand, I can’t help but feel let down by his injury record. It’s clearly not his own doing, but is his body capable of meeting the rigorous demands of championship level football on a consistent basis? Frustrates me greatly. To be fair to him, in this instance, it’s an unlucky event. These things happen in games / training especially if our training is an intense as a matchday scenario. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Dollymarie said: Radio Bristol commented post match that they had seen him walking round in one of those protective boots at the ground yesterday. We called them wellies when I was a lad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: To be fair to him, in this instance, it’s an unlucky event. These things happen in games / training especially if our training is an intense as a matchday scenario. Yes, I did say in my original comment that I don’t believe he is in any way responsible for his injuries. But his record since being with us isn’t great. At some point someone has to ask the question whether he would be better suited to football of a lesser intensity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 Needs to go end of season if we want to progress. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: Yes, I did say in my original comment that I don’t believe he is in any way responsible for his injuries. But his record since being with us isn’t great. At some point someone has to ask the question whether he would be better suited to football of a lesser intensity. He started every league game this season, before yesterday. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: We called them wellies when I was a lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 hours ago, OddBallJim said: Yes, I did say in my original comment that I don’t believe he is in any way responsible for his injuries. But his record since being with us isn’t great. At some point someone has to ask the question whether he would be better suited to football of a lesser intensity. If this was another recurrence of an old injury, you might have a point. But literally any footballer can get a contact injury in training. It makes no sense all to question his ability to sustain Championship football on the back of this particular injury. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said: If this was another recurrence of an old injury, you might have a point. But literally any footballer can get a contact injury in training. It makes no sense all to question his ability to sustain Championship football on the back of this particular injury. But you would agree that overall, his injury record with us makes for sad reading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Holden & Andy Rolls put a huge, career defining dent in the lads future with the way they managed his first few injuries sadly. Edited October 22, 2023 by petehinton 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, OddBallJim said: But you would agree that overall, his injury record with us makes for sad reading? Yesterday was the first game he has missed all season. We have at least 8 players in the squad who have missed more games though injury 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maldini Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, petehinton said: Holden & Andy Rolls put a huge, career defining dent in the lads future with the way they managed his first few injuries sadly. Can you expand on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtongreight Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 hours ago, OddBallJim said: But you would agree that overall, his injury record with us makes for sad reading? As was previously explained his present injury is a contact injury, something that can happen at anytime. This season he’s played every game. He had a career threatening injury previously, which he seems to now have overcome, my concern is more that although over that injury it does seem to have affected his game, he doesn’t seem the player he was before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Maldini said: Can you expand on that? Holden played him in two games back to back on rock hard pitches after a really bad hamstring tear, rather than easing him back in. No surprise he lasted 20 minutes in game 2 before tearing it again. Medical team said it was fine too. Was then getting constant mis diagnosis 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, petehinton said: Holden played him in two games back to back on rock hard pitches after a really bad hamstring tear, rather than easing him back in. No surprise he lasted 20 minutes in game 2 before tearing it again. Medical team said it was fine too. Was then getting constant mis diagnosis Yep- pretty sure it was said at one stage that he was considering legal action over his medical treatment prior to the arrival of Dave Rennie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Ashtongreight said: As was previously explained his present injury is a contact injury, something that can happen at anytime. This season he’s played every game. He had a career threatening injury previously, which he seems to now have overcome, my concern is more that although over that injury it does seem to have affected his game, he doesn’t seem the player he was before. This is a fair assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 21 hours ago, Dollymarie said: Radio Bristol commented post match that they had seen him walking round in one of those protective boots at the ground yesterday. Typical, reactive, after the horse-has-bolted Bristol City. Joe Williams needs to wear protective boots before he gets injured, ie when he's playing (and training, cooking, eating, sleeping, shopping, browsing, canoodling, driving, bathing, resting, everyth-ing) too bloody late now he's injured. Sort it out, Lansdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, OddBallJim said: But you would agree that overall, his injury record with us makes for sad reading? I don't think anyone would dispute that but I don't think that necessarily he means he can't play at the intensity of Championship level IF his recurring injuries are behind him. After a dreadful 20/21 and a difficult 21/22, my memory is that he didn't miss a lot of last season through injury and I don't think this injury is necessary a harbinger of a recurrence. As others have said, there is a wider issue in the sense that his injuries seem to have changed how he has to play the game. I think he has had games where he has shown he can do that but he's not had the impact we would have hoped for when we signed him. I've got mixed views on Williams' contract. For me, he's the one of the midfield three that I'd take out the first team if we signed a better option but I also think he's got value as a squad player. Oddly one thing I'd say for him is that I think he's dependable. There are always fans who are going to base their view of his ability to manage injuries on his first two seasons with us but I suspect that's not how the manager or his teammates view things after the last year and a bit. Edited October 23, 2023 by LondonBristolian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTeamInBristol Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 He was also injured at Wigan but played through the season before we signed him that summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriella Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 We’re t we due to sign him earlier than we did only for him to get a serious injury, can’t see him here beyond this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsince1994 Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 22 hours ago, headhunter said: Based on our record with injuries that'll be after the next international break then - 25 November 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said: I don't think anyone would dispute that but I don't think that necessarily he means he can't play at the intensity of Championship level IF his recurring injuries are behind him. After a dreadful 20/21 and a difficult 21/22, my memory is that he didn't miss a lot of last season through injury and I don't think this injury is necessary a harbinger of a recurrence. As others have said, there is a wider issue in the sense that his injuries seem to have changed how he has to play the game. I think he has had games where he has shown he can do that but he's not had the impact we would have hoped for when we signed him. I've got mixed views on Williams' contract. For me, he's the one of the midfield three that I'd take out the first team if we signed a better option but I also think he's got value as a squad player. Oddly one thing I'd say for him is that I think he's dependable. There are always fans who are going to base their view of his ability to manage injuries on his first two seasons with us but I suspect that's not how the manager or his teammates view things after the last year and a bit. I agree with your point in bold. I feel there’s definitely a potential to upgrade there. Difficulty of course is finding the player, and teasing SLs purse strings back open again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, petehinton said: Holden played him in two games back to back on rock hard pitches after a really bad hamstring tear, rather than easing him back in. No surprise he lasted 20 minutes in game 2 before tearing it again. Medical team said it was fine too. Was then getting constant mis diagnosis So not really Holden's fault then if the medics told him he was fit to play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, frenchred said: So not really Holden's fault then if the medics told him he was fit to play! You’ve still gotta be incredibly stupid to do it, even if someone says it might be okay. Especially if you’ve played the game yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 23, 2023 Report Share Posted October 23, 2023 As he is currently injured, presumably the club are looking into how he can be relieved of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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