Glen hump Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Just now, ciderwithtommy said: Can also confirm from people inside the club. Had hoped it was just nonsense. Is the agent the one who BT really doesn’t like to work with? I don’t know if they get on with each other, but he’s been involved with city for a very long time, hasn’t always been a agent if that’s who you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, HibbsyBCFC said: Completely agree. I also think SOD sounded miserable because he too had no respect for the hierarchy, so you could potentially add him to the Coppell/Cotterill/Pearson list - although that is just a gut feeling I had at the time. I am now simply left scratching my head at how our owner can be so tone deaf. Even then, I shouldn't be surprised. I mean, if his ego is big enough to name a stand after himself whilst still involved in the club?... Yeah that last point has always made me uneasy and should of sent alarm bells ringing at the type of ego were dealing with. I mean can you imagine that happening at virtually any other club? An owner that has overseen nothing but pure mediocrity and at times failure in football terms, getting away with naming a stand after himself. Just bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Glen hump said: I don’t know if they get on with each other, but he’s been involved with city for a very long time, hasn’t always been a agent if that’s who you mean Yep that’s him I would think. All I’ve heard is academy related as opposed to senior - was hoping his remit was kept there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Glen hump said: I don’t know if they get on with each other, but he’s been involved with city for a very long time, hasn’t always been a agent if that’s who you mean Danny Coles? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 minute ago, ciderwithtommy said: Yep that’s him I would think. All I’ve heard is academy related as opposed to senior - was hoping his remit was kept there. Bit of power is dangerous. 1 minute ago, Henry said: Danny Coles? 1 minute ago, Henry said: Danny Coles? No , I obviously can’t say who it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, Meh said: Personally I have long considered Brian Tinnion a brown noser but the problem is you call him out on X and you get all the “you’re a legend Tins” brigade all over you. Great player but shit manager who should be out of football matters once a player gets promoted to the first team squad training. I am sure his worshippers will be all over this - ready, steady, go Doing a pretty good jobs with the kids though. I suspect this is his level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, phantom said: It would all be relatable to how serious any illness was If Nige isn't concerned etc yet the club were pushing it as a reason then 100% it is an issue BUT, if there are genuine concerns then as the employer they should have a duty of care, I know where I would be if I was trying to push someone out of my business if they were unwell But they could simply let his contract run its course and not renew, that would be acceptable. It happens with players. Thing is, leaving it until next summer then looking for a replacement wouldn't be best for Bristol City. If the club are not convinced Nigel is well enough for another 2 or 3 years, is it ok for them not to renew? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Tony Tootle said: Tinnion is also pretty thick Glad someone said it. I’ve always had that impression. His spelling and grammar on twitter is absolutely horrendous. Not particularly an issue on pure footballing matters, but he doesn’t strike me as someone who should be having much influence on the whole direction of the club. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Glen hump said: Bit of power is dangerous. No , I obviously can’t say who it is There are always two agents (and possibly others) who are very often at Academy games, both former players, Coles is one, and the others name escapes me, a former defender who only played a handful of games, come on people….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Glen hump said: Don’t know about that but I certainly don’t buy in to the good old Brian , city legend bullshit Nor me. You might not agree with TT calling him thick, but he and the Lansdowns are definitely as thick as thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harry Posted October 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, HibbsyBCFC said: Completely agree. I also think SOD sounded miserable because he too had no respect for the hierarchy, so you could potentially add him to the Coppell/Cotterill/Pearson list - although that is just a gut feeling I had at the time. I can confirm. I had regular, often daily contact with SOD. Trust me, he had absolutely nothing positive to say about The Lansdown Family. And whilst there has been a lot said about his time here, trust me again when I say that his situation was very similar to Nigel’s - particularly in regard to finances. I was in SOD’s office one evening, and he had the squad list up on the board, with the contract lengths. We were discussing bringing in a new player. He said - that’s my squad. I can’t get rid of any of them and I have no room in the budget to bring x player in. He also didn’t have any semblance of a scouting structure and those that were in situ he had absolutely zero trust in. Whilst SOD’s time here will be viewed as a failure, trust me when I say he was completely hung out to dry, with no infrastructure, no trust in any of the hierarchy and pretty much no budget. So yes, I can absolutely confirm that he had nothing good to say about The Lansdown Family. 28 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Glad someone said it. I’ve always had that impression. His spelling and grammar on twitter is absolutely horrendous. Not particularly an issue on pure footballing matters, but he doesn’t strike me as someone who should be having much influence on the whole direction of the club. With the greatest of respect, his spelling and grammar don’t affect his knowledge of football. Now whether he’s been moved up to a level that doesn’t suit him is another matter. For me he’s much more valuable running the academy, indeed I wonder if his promotions over the last few years have been due to him being linked elsewhere, and SL’s promoted him to keep him at the club. I’m still seething about Nigel leaving, but am now concerned about who’ll be coming into replace him, and whether they’ll be getting a feee hand to do the job their way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: Doing a pretty good jobs with the kids though. I suspect this is his level. Always been sceptical of that, have said on here before. Semenyo and Scott fell into our laps, with no scouting or connections/developments. I know that’s the two northern stars, but seemingly the two he gets lauded with credit for. Kelly was sold for huge cash largely down to his England appearances, as he was shunted out of position by LJ. HPC set up has helped with the integration between ages and first team. A large amount of recent academy success is down to the management of bringing them in to first team exposure at the right time, for the right players. Not just arranging them to go out on (numerous) loan. Edited October 30, 2023 by petehinton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, BS15_RED said: With the greatest of respect, his spelling and grammar don’t affect his knowledge of football. Now whether he’s been moved up to a level that doesn’t suit him is another matter. For me he’s much more valuable running the academy, indeed I wonder if his promotions over the last few years have been due to him being linked elsewhere, and SL’s promoted him to keep him at the club. I’m still seething about Nigel leaving, but am now concerned about who’ll be coming into replace him, and whether they’ll be getting a feee hand to do the job their way. As I said, “not particularly an issue on pure footballing matters”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS15_RED Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: As I said, “not particularly an issue on pure footballing matters”. My apologies, I was lazy and only read the bit about his grammar! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Glen hump said: Maybe Be interesting to know if we have heard the same Have you heard about a bust up Sunday morning around Pearson’s reluctance to look into the free agent market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Andy082005 said: Be interesting to know if we have heard the same Have you heard about a bust up Sunday morning around Pearson’s reluctance to look into the free agent market? No I haven’t mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) This is what I have been alluding to. I have heard the same that allegedly not everyone is apparently happy for some time with a certain ex midfielder and manager. Takes a lot of credit when it’s others apparently doing the great work and was a key voice allegedly in wanting change! 2004….as I said many many weeks ago. Watch out over your shoulder! Wonder if Nige and Danny will go for a beer! Two ex PL managers with better history than anyone at the club! Edited October 30, 2023 by Shauntaylor85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Andy082005 said: Be interesting to know if we have heard the same Have you heard about a bust up Sunday morning around Pearson’s reluctance to look into the free agent market? that's covered in the return thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Countryfile said: There are always two agents (and possibly others) who are very often at Academy games, both former players, Coles is one, and the others name escapes me, a former defender who only played a handful of games, come on people….. Clayton Fortune…. by no means looking to stir the pot- but those 2 (Coles and Fortune) are present at most academy games, and both have a “unimpressed” relationship with their former colleague/manager. I counter by saying there’s 3 sides to every story. Their side, the other side, and the truth. but none the less, it’s well known that SL doesn’t like being challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Yes, how many failed managers is it now plus sundry other employees who turned out to be useless - so many we've lost count. And the one common denominator in all that time? How can such a failed manager who brought us the Dinning days be running the football ops of a champ club! sorry it’s not right. Southampton have Jason Wilcox! From Man C! Ok light years from us I get that but there are so many good people out there who have good experience at other clubs. It’s so comfy down there! As I said Millen may as well turn up as CFO! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Seems to be growing clarity that on first team footballing matters, the board (to the extent we have one), had a choice between going with the views of Pearson or Tinnion and chose… Tinnion. In no footballing sense is that anything other than ludicrous, so must have come down to a smoke blowing contest, which Tinnion was always going to win comfortably. No money to spend, followed by King vs youngsters, followed by let’s go into the free agent market, is making it increasingly seem as if we’re all stuck in some Truman Show-esque remake of W1A or The thick of it. If someone wrote it as a script it would be rejected for being too far fetched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: How can such a failed manager who brought us the Dinning days be running the football ops of a champ club! sorry it’s not right. Southampton have Jason Wilcox! From Man C! Ok light years from us I get that but there are so many good people out there who have good experience at other clubs. It’s so comfy down there! As I said Millen may as well turn up as CFO! Here's a piece of an article on the difference between the Man Utd and Man City set ups: Compare United with the high-grade operation run at City by the chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, and his executives Ferran Soriano (chief executive) and Txiki Begiristain (sporting director) and you see clear lines of expert leadership at the Etihad Stadium – precisely what Guardiola spoke of after winning the 191st derby on Sunday. “We are in the same direction, chairman, CEO, sport director, manager and the players,” he said. “Wrong or right, we go there. We make mistakes of course but when we lose or things are not going well we are not here to blame someone, we just see what we have to do to be better. Note the phrase expert leadership - not something we can claim, though Steve no doubt thinks he is an expert. You don't have to be a football genius to understand that this is the way to run a club at any level. Instead we have Daddy's boy as Chairman, decided a CEO isn't needed and have a technical director who appears to be pursuing his own agenda. Piss up and brewery comes to mind. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/30/erik-ten-hag-is-at-the-steering-wheel-of-a-directionless-manchester-united 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, chinapig said: Here's a piece of an article on the difference between the Man Utd and Man City set ups: Compare United with the high-grade operation run at City by the chairman, Khaldoon al-Mubarak, and his executives Ferran Soriano (chief executive) and Txiki Begiristain (sporting director) and you see clear lines of expert leadership at the Etihad Stadium – precisely what Guardiola spoke of after winning the 191st derby on Sunday. “We are in the same direction, chairman, CEO, sport director, manager and the players,” he said. “Wrong or right, we go there. We make mistakes of course but when we lose or things are not going well we are not here to blame someone, we just see what we have to do to be better. Note the phrase expert leadership - not something we can claim, though Steve no doubt thinks he is an expert. You don't have to be a football genius to understand that this is the way to run a club at any level. Instead we have Daddy's boy as Chairman, decided a CEO isn't needed and have a technical director who appears to be pursuing his own agenda. Piss up and brewery comes to mind. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/30/erik-ten-hag-is-at-the-steering-wheel-of-a-directionless-manchester-united Shambles! Everyone is a mate! Kit Manager has a job for life too! Another ex player! Cannot knock what ex players did for the club but where else does this happen, leave them as the superb players they were?! Edited October 30, 2023 by Shauntaylor85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 It felt so joined up this time last year with the Fans Forum - RG, NP and BT all seemed to be singing from the same hymn sheet. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It felt so joined up this time last year with the Fans Forum - RG, NP and BT all seemed to be singing from the same hymn sheet. And now only BS left, oops sorry BT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 This thread needs more attention, very interesting indeed. The whole place sounds a total shambles and has been for years. It’s like Nige has been a whistleblower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 9 hours ago, Glen hump said: Been told by a few people who would definitely know that tinnion has a little bit to much of a voice at the club and it’s not particularly helpful at times Have to say, I’m finding this criticism of Tinnion rather odd. For years he’s had nothing but praise on here, he’s a club legend and was a hero to many of us and been held in high regard. I’ve never seen a negative post about him I don’t think (except towards his time as manager). I’ve never even heard of the “Wilson situation” until this week - and now suddenly everyone’s turned on him, it’s well known he’s a snake etc. Just find it rather bizarre. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuedgeRed Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 Coppell “At last” I thought at the time. A manager appointment that filled me with hope and excitement. They’ve finally gone and hired someone that’s going to take us somewhere. Gone within a month!!! Writing was on the wall about the shower of shit we have at the helm of this club. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted October 30, 2023 Report Share Posted October 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: But if they are concerned Nigel isn't well enough, then saying "we want to go in a different direction" is not honest, is it? Is it legitimate for Bristol City to be concerned about Nige's health when weighing up the next two or three years? I’d have probably respected them if they’d come out and said we’re worried about his health, and despite not coming to an agreement with NP we’ve decided it would be best for him to leave the club with immediate effect. That is far better than blaming it on results after a run of games we probably didn’t expect to do much better than we actually did - and with 2 games against bottom 2 clubs that could make our league position and form look much better again before the next break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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