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Sunday at 130 the Robins take on the Canaries.

In the week they raced into a two goal lead inside 12 minutes away at Watford but ended up losing 3-2. They are two points behind us in the table, with 23 points.

They dumped us out of the Carabao Cup in late August thanks to a single goal, at Ashton Gate, we only created one attempt on target that night, https://youtu.be/vzZfRGlPjQw

On deadline day they signed defender Danny Batth from Sunderland and forward Ui-jo Hwang on loan from Nottingham Forest.

In October Delia Smith and her husband lost their majority stake in the club after Mark Attanasio's increased stake was approved. The Milwaukee Brewers owner joined the Canaries board last September when the American bought 15.9% of the club. His Norfolk FB Holdings group acquired an additional 195,012 shares, bringing him level with the 40% of Smith and her husband.

See the newspaper clip from February 20th 1909 (with thanks to @ashton_fan) which previews Norwich's big cup tie at Bristol City, this would have been in the run to our only FA Cup Final against Manchester United. Norwich were in the South Eastern league at the time so it would have been a big upset to beat us, we won 2-0. You will note from the league tables that the Gas and Swindle both played in the Southern League at the time.

David Wagner was appointed as head coach in January 2023. The German enjoyed a professional career in Germany where he was a part of the Schalke 04 UEFA Cup-winning team in 1997. His first foray into management came with Borussia Dortmund II. https://youtu.be/WWZW-NI76hs

Wagner has received a vote of confidence from the board ahead of the game, but the decision over his future ultimately rests with new sporting director Ben Knapper.

Norwich have won just two of their last nine games, losing seven, have fallen to 14th in the Championship and any confidence and optimism towards Wagner’s methods in gaining promotion appear to have evaporated.

The Eastern Daily Press has now published two separate editorials calling for Wagner to be sacked, with the game against us potentially sealing his fate should another poor performance and result entail.

Speaking at this week’s AGM, chief shareholders Delia Smith, Michael Wynn Jones and Mark Attanasio discussed the situation at length, deferring the final decision to Knapper, who was appointed in October having previously spent four years at Arsenal as loans manager.

Their forum is a bit gloomy atm: https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/154464-bristol-on-sunday/

This is the designated food donation game to support Operation Christmas Hamper. Fans attending are urged to bring food items to Ashton Gate and donate the items in the drop-off area by Kofi Lounge.

The Foundation has joined Bristol Rovers, Her Game Too, Gloucestershire County Cricket Club and the Gas Girls in supporting the local charity’s goal of making bespoke Christmas hampers for families in need. More info here: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/foundation-news/donate-at-norwich-city-game-for-operation-christmas-hamper/

Head-to-head record

Won: 21

Lost: 38

Drawn:18

Their match preview: https://www.canaries.co.uk/content/match-preview-bristol-city-v-norwich-city-dec23

They are high scorers (32 for) but have conceded lots too (35) compared with our 19 for and against.

We will be without Naismith, Pring is available having served his one match suspension  band Academy midfielder Jed Meerholz may make the squad.

LM’s pre-match notes: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/liams-notes-norwich-city-h/

Officials

Referee: Gavin Ward

Assistants: Lee Venamore and Adam Crysell

Fourth official: Ollie Yates

Players who played for them and us include, Korey Smith, Aaron Wilbraham, Gary O'Neil, John Ruddy, Rob Newman, Joe Royle, Louie Donowa, Ade Akinbiyi, Robert Fleck, Jim Brennan, Elliott Bennet and Leroy Lita.

 

 

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11 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Sunday at 130 the Robins take on the Canaries.

In the week they raced into a two goal lead inside 12 minutes away at Watford but ended up losing 3-2. They are two points behind us in the table, with 23 points.

They dumped us out of the Carabao Cup in late August thanks to a single goal, at Ashton Gate, we only created one attempt on target that night, https://youtu.be/vzZfRGlPjQw

On deadline day they signed defender Danny Batth from Sunderland and forward Ui-jo Hwang on loan from Nottingham Forest.

In October Delia Smith and her husband lost their majority stake in the club after Mark Attanasio's increased stake was approved. The Milwaukee Brewers owner joined the Canaries board last September when the American bought 15.9% of the club. His Norfolk FB Holdings group acquired an additional 195,012 shares, bringing him level with the 40% of Smith and her husband.

See the newspaper clip from February 20th 1909 (with thanks to @ashton_fan) which previews Norwich's big cup tie at Bristol City, this would have been in the run to our only FA Cup Final against Manchester United. Norwich were in the South Eastern league at the time so it would have been a big upset to beat us, we won 2-0. You will note from the league tables that the Gas and Swindle both played in the Southern League at the time.

David Wagner was appointed as head coach in January 2023. The German enjoyed a professional career in Germany where he was a part of the Schalke 04 UEFA Cup-winning team in 1997. His first foray into management came with Borussia Dortmund II. https://youtu.be/WWZW-NI76hs

Wagner has received a vote of confidence from the board ahead of the game, but the decision over his future ultimately rests with new sporting director Ben Knapper.

Norwich have won just two of their last nine games, losing seven, have fallen to 14th in the Championship and any confidence and optimism towards Wagner’s methods in gaining promotion appear to have evaporated.

The Eastern Daily Press has now published two separate editorials calling for Wagner to be sacked, with the game against us potentially sealing his fate should another poor performance and result entail.

Speaking at this week’s AGM, chief shareholders Delia Smith, Michael Wynn Jones and Mark Attanasio discussed the situation at length, deferring the final decision to Knapper, who was appointed in October having previously spent four years at Arsenal as loans manager.

Their forum is a bit gloomy atm: https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/154464-bristol-on-sunday/

This is the designated food donation game to support Operation Christmas Hamper. Fans attending are urged to bring food items to Ashton Gate and donate the items in the drop-off area by Kofi Lounge.

The Foundation has joined Bristol Rovers, Her Game Too, Gloucestershire County Cricket Club and the Gas Girls in supporting the local charity’s goal of making bespoke Christmas hampers for families in need. More info here: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/foundation-news/donate-at-norwich-city-game-for-operation-christmas-hamper/

Head-to-head record

Won: 21

Lost: 38

Drawn:18

Their match preview: https://www.canaries.co.uk/content/match-preview-bristol-city-v-norwich-city-dec23

They are high scorers (32 for) but have conceded lots too (35) compared with our 19 for and against.

We will be without Naismith, Pring is available having served his one match suspension  band Academy midfielder Jed Meerholz may make the squad.

LM’s pre-match notes: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/city-men-news/liams-notes-norwich-city-h/

Officials

Referee: Gavin Ward

Assistants: Lee Venamore and Adam Crysell

Fourth official: Ollie Yates

Players who played for them and us include, Korey Smith, Aaron Wilbraham, Gary O'Neil, John Ruddy, Rob Newman, Joe Royle, Louie Donowa, Ade Akinbiyi, Robert Fleck, Jim Brennan, Elliott Bennet and Leroy Lita.

 

 

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This is the designated food donation game to support Operation Christmas Hamper. Fans attending are urged to bring food items to Ashton Gate and donate the items in the drop-off area by Kofi Lounge.

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12 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

All I've got to add is that one of the greatest Britons, Horatio Nelson, was from Burnham Thorpe in Norfolk, and probably would've been a Norwich fan had they existed when he was alive. 

They lay claim to the oldest football chant in the world too - On the ball, City! is 121 years old. 

Stephen Fry, Ed Balls & bit more obscure Charles Clarke, too.

Big fan of them as a club, see lots of similarities, big catchment area as geographically isolated, place with good quality of life- things aren’t so great at present but they absolutely piss all over us in terms of historical achievements.

Anyway Pring for Naismith but otherwise unchanged tomorrow, I expect.

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Win tomorrow and we go 9th and only 2 points off the play offs heading into the busy Xmas schedule and Jan transfer window looking like a massive game tomorrow tbh it really is now time for Conway to step up and start scoring some goals isn't it !

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11 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Stephen Fry, Ed Balls & bit more obscure Charles Clarke, too.

Big fan of them as a club, see lots of similarities, big catchment area as geographically isolated, place with good quality of life- things aren’t so great at present but they absolutely piss all over us in terms of historical achievements.

Anyway Pring for Naismith but otherwise unchanged tomorrow, I expect.

Myself I’d start Cornick and move Tommy wide. Bell has been woefully out of form, Mehmeti had no form to start with and Yeboah seems to be on the outers. 
 

Tommy, when he first came into the side, was effectively Weimanns deputy - playing off the front man. He’s not yet ready to play the sole man up front as he’s not physically there. Cornick is. Tommy wide will do more defensively than Bell or Mehmeti and it allows him to link off the front man.

 

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

Myself I’d start Cornick and move Tommy wide. Bell has been woefully out of form, Mehmeti had no form to start with and Yeboah seems to be on the outers. 
 

Tommy, when he first came into the side, was effectively Weimanns deputy - playing off the front man. He’s not yet ready to play the sole man up front as he’s not physically there. Cornick is. Tommy wide will do more defensively than Bell or Mehmeti and it allows him to link off the front man.

 

I wonder whether we might see another version of a back three….Vyner Dickie Pring with Tanner and Sykes outside them…but Conway and Cornick together, with TGH, Jamo and Knight?

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6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I wonder whether we might see another version of a back three….Vyner Dickie Pring with Tanner and Sykes outside them…but Conway and Cornick together, with TGH, Jamo and Knight?

I think the thing we can be reasonably sure of is that we know the identity of 9 of the 11. I’m not sure we’ll change shape/system purely because of the quick turnaround and time to train it in. But it’s pretty damning at the moment that some of our front players make a more compelling case for exclusion than inclusion!

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15 hours ago, BCFC31 said:

Win tomorrow and we go 9th and only 2 points off the play offs heading into the busy Xmas schedule and Jan transfer window looking like a massive game tomorrow tbh it really is now time for Conway to step up and start scoring some goals isn't it !

Not sure we can win and get a negative goal difference… we’ll be 8th, if we win by 2 it’ll be 7th

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9 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Myself I’d start Cornick and move Tommy wide. Bell has been woefully out of form, Mehmeti had no form to start with and Yeboah seems to be on the outers. 
 

Tommy, when he first came into the side, was effectively Weimanns deputy - playing off the front man. He’s not yet ready to play the sole man up front as he’s not physically there. Cornick is. Tommy wide will do more defensively than Bell or Mehmeti and it allows him to link off the front man.

 

Absolutely worth a go but my side was what I think Manning will do.

At present I don’t see either Bell or Mehmeti in good enough form to play.

I suggested Weimann for Saints (to a predictable reaction) & would prefer that to either of them, I know he’s not been great, but still think as his record shows he’ll score goals in time.

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1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Absolutely worth a go but my side was what I think Manning will do.

At present I don’t see either Bell or Mehmeti in good enough form to play.

I suggested Weimann for Saints (to a predictable reaction) & would prefer that to either of them, I know he’s not been great, but still think as his record shows he’ll score goals in time.

That's a good shout. Bell & Mehmeti haven't done enough in my opinion. The Harry & Andi show then!

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It doesn't matter if its 2 or 3 up front IMHO. What matters, is you have players with the intellect and awareness to know when to be close together (in a 2) and when to spread the play (as in a 3). You also need to know when to drop off and when/where to run to create space.

The past few years the movement from midfield and attack has been abysmal.

And i'm expecting a radical improvement in ball retention from our own throw ins.

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19 minutes ago, DaveInSA said:

It doesn't matter if its 2 or 3 up front IMHO. What matters, is you have players with the intellect and awareness to know when to be close together (in a 2) and when to spread the play (as in a 3). You also need to know when to drop off and when/where to run to create space.

The past few years the movement from midfield and attack has been abysmal.

And i'm expecting a radical improvement in ball retention from our own throw ins.

Did you honestly think that the Weimann Semenyo & Martin partnership was “abysmal”?

Between the three of them they scored 42 league goals in 2021/22 with 22 assists.

Martin was a very clever hold up player, Semenyo is quick, strong & two footed, Weimann had the season of his career.

That was only 2 seasons ago.

 

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3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Did you honestly think that the Weimann Semenyo & Martin partnership was “abysmal”?

Between the three of them they scored 42 league goals in 2021/22 with 22 assists.

Martin was a very clever hold up player, Semenyo is quick, strong & two footed, Weimann had the season of his career.

That was only 2 seasons ago.

 

:laugh:. Got me there didn't you.

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Looking forward to this got a feeling it's going to be a good game, they are not the best at the back so sure we will get a goal or 2 today , it's definitely a winnable game I think, lots of Norwich fans around already which should make for a good atmosphere

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14 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

He was 4th official in our game on Wednesday. Unusual to be involved in the same team in successive games? 

Not sure about that one. I think it may have been mentioned at the time but Keith Stroud was allowed to referee the match on Wednesday and is from Hampshire which I thought wasn’t allowed due to the fact it was Southampton.

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4 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Absolutely worth a go but my side was what I think Manning will do.

At present I don’t see either Bell or Mehmeti in good enough form to play.

I suggested Weimann for Saints (to a predictable reaction) & would prefer that to either of them, I know he’s not been great, but still think as his record shows he’ll score goals in time.

Blimey, all on me.

Liam obviously reads OTIB..

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Afternoon all, from a still snowy Tallinn.  Hope the audio is OK today, as seeing it's a Sunday, the so called operators may have a day off and forget there's football today.  Who knows with this lot! Anyway, let's hope the boys can get into top gear and get a few balls into the net (Norwich's that is) So cheer them on all who are there and Come On You Red's!

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20 minutes ago, George Rs said:

Might be this tbf. 
 

        Tanner Vyner Dickie

Skyes TGH James Knight Pring 

          Weimman Conway

Could be normal back 4, TGH & James in the middle, Weimann left Conway centre, Sykes right.

Weimann is well overdue a good game for us, so maybe today will be the day - but I fear not if he is put wide left.

 

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2 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

Could be normal back 4, TGH & James in the middle, Weimann left Conway centre, Sykes right.

Weimann is well overdue a good game for us, so maybe today will be the day - but I fear not if he is put wide left.

 

4-2-3-1 probably 

TGH and James holding

Sykes Weimann Knight 

Conway up top.

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