Mr Popodopolous Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, maxjak said: What like Krakatoa? Get real...it just will not happen? If we should lose? (Big If?).. Theyr'e will maybe a little anger, booing and frustration......but most supporters are sensible enough to realise that after just 7 games, and with no opportunity to bring in any new players, it is too early to make any long term judgement call on our new manager? Patience young Jedi? Not so much aimed at Manning but the hierarchy. The hierarchy have made a big call here and a rebuild is not desirable or needed really. We have had 2 long years of slog. We were rebuilding steadily, we looked cohesive-now it feels like it could be for nothing. We do not want or need a rebuild, a rebuild we do not need or want. Edited December 13, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Pople Posted December 13, 2023 Report Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 22:41, Sheltons Army said: If you care about our football Club , I think this is actually important , and time critical I am and was a massive Nigel Pearson fan , and will always be appreciative of IMHO a magnificent job he did here when we needed it most When he was dismissed in a cowardly way without a drop of recognition or appreciation , I thought there couldn’t be anyone angrier or more disgusted than I was , but there are many who are clearly as angry, if not angrier - I’m actually quite shocked at the level and how widespread. So like most , I got to a point where I couldn’t really care who they appointed , and I have to say I wasn’t wowed by their choice, and aim still have some major worries about the outcome , and one of them I have to say is the support and quality help around Liam Manning (As in the hierarchy and whole Club set up) , as much as Manning himself As a young coach , and pretty young man , Manning has been put under ridiculous pressure by their embarrassing interviews and the way they sacked Pearson I said early that early results were vital for him to give himself some breathing space and take some heat off , whilst he tried to implement his ethos The results don’t look great and it’s not difficult to sense that if we were to go behind on Saturday then it will become very toxic , and however strong or self assured he might be , it’s going to be a very difficult and extremely testing time for Manning , and unless he has b**s of steel and nerves likewise , there is a real danger the heat will affect him , his beliefs , confidence , and the whole thing could go horribly wrong. I have real fears about Saturday , and the forthcoming games and the influence supporters could have on what happens here , in terms of our season , and not in a good way. This is surely a time , the very time , to keep any deep lying anger or negativity in a bag Forget Lansdown , Tinnion , Manning , ......We need a few results , ultimately for us , you , me and every other red We could really shoot ourselves in the foot here , (I know many will say Lansdown and Tinnion have already done that) Its not a call to arms , and roaring support , much more that a case of keeping anger away from match day It’s not a dig at anyone or any assembly of posters , whose anger and p**** off levels I can fully understand They aren’t going to be balling out on Liam Manning anytime soon so we have a choice . We don’t have a choice of Head Coach but we do have a chance to turn toxic extreme , get behind as much as we can , but more importantly , bite the bullet on any anger and toxicity , although totally understandable , it’s ultimately going to backfire on us. Time to take a deep breath on match days at least fellow reds ️ fwiw - I can see some positives , with some negatives , but that’s for another time One things for sure if we have any chance under LM and to avoid any slide down the table we are asking a near impossible if the heat and toxicity increase. After NP dug us out of an almighty hole , and a slide towards League One (God help us) it would be crazy if we , particularly the throngs us Nigel Pearson fans , actually contributed towards a fall it would also help the whole thing if the obvious vocal Pro Manning supporters calmed down and stopped setting out to over egg LM and antagonise. LM will prove himself , or otherwise and fair play he’s going to need that steel ️ COYR ️ Excellent post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 22 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not so much aimed at Manning but the hierarchy. The hierarchy have made a big call here and a rebuild is not desirable or needed really. We have had 2 long years of slog. We were rebuilding steadily, we looked cohesive-now it feels like it could be for nothing. We do not want or need a rebuild, a rebuild we do not need or want. We do NOT need a rebuild? No........ let's just saunter on as a average mid tabls Championship club? This club needs a massive overhaul, and if you give our new manager time, we might just wake the Pheck Up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 14, 2023 Report Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, maxjak said: We do NOT need a rebuild? No........ let's just saunter on as a average mid tabls Championship club? This club needs a massive overhaul, and if you give our new manager time, we might just wake the Pheck Up? Surely we were following an ideal plan- to build on the solid base rather than rebuilding in place of the solid base. The financials had been fixed, the Scott and Semenyo sales had provided some funds after P&S considerations. Vyner, Pring and Bell signed up to new deals, hopefully Conway soon. Some more money to NP for quality and quantity felt the logical next step. If Manning wants to overhaul that'll likely set us back IMO. Edited December 14, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 19 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Surely we were following an ideal plan- to build on the solid base rather than rebuilding in place of the solid base. The financials had been fixed, the Scott and Semenyo sales had provided some funds after P&S considerations. Vyner, Pring and Bell signed up to new deals, hopefully Conway soon. Some more money to NP for quality and quantity felt the logical next step. If Manning wants to overhaul that'll likely set us back IMO. I didn't want NP to go..........but he has. So Are u then suggesting that our new manager retains exactly the same players that we have now?..........and somehow turns them into a top six side? Personally i believe we are four players short of a reasonable team, if u don't regard that as an overhaul, then OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full nelson Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 He's out of his depth, he's out of his depth, Liam Manning, he's out of his depth. When 0-2 down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, maxjak said: I didn't want NP to go..........but he has. So Are u then suggesting that our new manager retains exactly the same players that we have now?..........and somehow turns them into a top six side? Personally i believe we are four players short of a reasonable team, if u don't regard that as an overhaul, then OK? Well each to their own, I see that as building on but I agree a few more players for quality and depth in certain positions wouldn't go amiss. My fear when talking overhaul was- come in totally rip it up, change half the squad etc. James, Williams, King and possibly Weimann all out of contract in the summer so yeah. Edited December 15, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Well each to their own, I see that as building on but I agree a few more players for quality and depth in certain positions wouldn't go amiss. My fear when talking overhaul was- come in totally rip it up, change half the squad etc. No..............perhaps i should have referred to it as a partial refit...Ha! I think there are 3 to 4 players who will not survive the transition.......starting with our midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 Manning talking about recruitment focussed on “attacking positions” but when quizzed further he implied the midfield and forwards, inc central midfield was my interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 55 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Manning talking about recruitment focussed on “attacking positions” but when quizzed further he implied the midfield and forwards, inc central midfield was my interpretation. Lets see what Sir Hiss can deliver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 13/12/2023 at 07:01, Jose said: Will never happen. People blindly follow this club. Talk of the stadium erupting Saturday if a poor result happens is wishful thinking. You’ll hear a few moans and groans and that will be that. Been saying it for the last few years. Our fan base has gone soft as **** in recent years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 On 13/12/2023 at 15:36, BigTone said: oob that was my thought as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Andy082005 said: Been saying it for the last few years. Our fan base has gone soft as **** in recent years Has across the game to some extent in more modern times. Wonder if the redevelopment played a role too? Shouldn't do.. All the same I wouldnt be so sure this time, if it goes wrong and especially if money is spent and it subsequently goes wrong there could be a lot of dismay. I hope Manning turns it round, as it means Bristol City will be on a good trajectory but the hierarchy have staked a fair bit on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Has across the game to some extent in more modern times. Wonder if the redevelopment played a role too? Shouldn't do.. All the same I wouldnt be so sure this time, if it goes wrong and especially if money is spent and it subsequently goes wrong there could be a lot of dismay. I hope Manning turns it round, as it means Bristol City will be on a good trajectory but the hierarchy have staked a fair bit on this. We're not soft. We're just bored, tired & apathetic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, JAWS said: We're not soft. We're just bored, tired & apathetic Also potentially true yeah, worn down and this a crazy sacking too many. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, JAWS said: We're not soft. We're just bored, tired & apathetic Resigned to the fact that nothing will change. In fact the more resentment we show the more determined lansclown would be to punish us further. His ego taking over once again. He's the kid on the playground who didn't get picked & is taking his ball home. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITW Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) On 12/12/2023 at 23:16, Slack Bladder said: They've made their bed They've got to lie in it I still feel numb, totally lost my City mojo Couldn’t agree more. Of course I want us and Manning to do well… but after 20+ years of having a season ticket I can genuinely say I’ve never been more disinterested in the club as a whole. I miss the days when a defeat would absolutely ruin my entire weekend! Edited December 15, 2023 by BITW 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, JAWS said: Resigned to the fact that nothing will change. In fact the more resentment we show the more determined lansclown would be to punish us further. His ego taking over once again. He's the kid on the playground who didn't get picked & is taking his ball home. Do we think this is Steve Lansdown or Jon Lansdown and Tinnion taking control moreso? Obviously Steve Lansdown ultimately fills the void in terms of cash deficit but he seems to have become a lot more hands off..not doing his opening home game Radio Bristol interview was odd. Likewise communicating with us via BBC Guernsey on the nest egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Do we think this is Steve Lansdown or Jon Lansdown and Tinnion taking control moreso? Obviously Steve Lansdown ultimately fills the void in terms of cash deficit but he seems to have become a lot more hands off..not doing his opening home game Radio Bristol interview was odd. Likewise communicating with us via BBC Guernsey on the nest egg. Never mind 'hands off', they can all... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAWS Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Superjack said: Never mind 'hands off', they can all... I have no doubt that SL is definitely still pulling the strings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 I'm sure. Not mine any more though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City exile 79 Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 10 hours ago, maxjak said: I didn't want NP to go..........but he has. So Are u then suggesting that our new manager retains exactly the same players that we have now?..........and somehow turns them into a top six side? Personally i believe we are four players short of a reasonable team, if u don't regard that as an overhaul, then OK? Isn’t their excuse for sacking NP because we were underperforming and we had a squad more than capable of challenging the top six? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 3 hours ago, City exile 79 said: Isn’t their excuse for sacking NP because we were underperforming and we had a squad more than capable of challenging the top six? "Top end" which many on here assume not unreasonably to be 1st - 8th. If they really believe that they are incompetent. They dont believe that they are ******* liars. Im going for the latter option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 14 hours ago, maxjak said: I didn't want NP to go..........but he has. So Are u then suggesting that our new manager retains exactly the same players that we have now?..........and somehow turns them into a top six side? Personally i believe we are four players short of a reasonable team, if u don't regard that as an overhaul, then OK? It was Jon Lansdown that said the current players were currently capable of being a top 6 side, just needed a better head coach. in Jon Lansdown we trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 52 minutes ago, NickJ said: It was Jon Lansdown that said the current players were currently capable of being a top 6 side, just needed a better head coach. in Jon Lansdown we trust. Good luck with that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 4 hours ago, City exile 79 said: Isn’t their excuse for sacking NP because we were underperforming and we had a squad more than capable of challenging the top six? Surely everyone knows by now why NP was dismissed? And surely everyone knows by now that JL is a liar? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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