bexhill reds Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 59 minutes ago, Bcfc24 said: Always seems to just be jam tomorrow with this club Jam tomorrow is the only way we can build and grow, our jam tomorrow is the likes of Aldershot, Bournemouth’s jam tomorrow is us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 11 minutes ago, Harry said: Exactly. For me it’s the way we should always be doing things. It’s all well and good having the academy pathway, but not every player is gonna make it. So for me we should always be looking for the best 17-20 year olds in the lower leagues - low cost, high potentials. Without going over old ground, we should have done this for the likes of Grimes, Watkins, Bowen, Key, Twine when they were all available for under half a mil (some even less) when local. Given this, picking up the likes of Stokes is very much a step in the right direction. I agree. You can’t spot every player at 7, in fact they may not even be local (enough) to anyway. And just like finding non-league / lower league nuggets, players released like Alex Scott too. 1 minute ago, bexhill reds said: Jam tomorrow is the only way we can build and grow, our jam tomorrow is the likes of Aldershot, Bournemouth’s jam tomorrow is us. I hope Bournemouth’s jam has pips in it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Harry said: Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. I can see why people feel underwhelmed. It’s always the future of the club as oppose to doing a Boro and Hull and actually going for it now. We will forever just sell and replace, sell and replace. It’s a hamster wheel, I am fine if that’s what we expect to be, a mid table champ side, but the owners, Tinnion etc all spout PL talk year in, year out. Well back it up! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I can see why people feel underwhelmed. It’s always the future of the club as oppose to doing a Boro and Hull and actually going for it now. We will forever just sell and replace, sell and replace. It’s a hamster wheel, I am fine if that’s what we expect to be, a mid table champ side, but the owners, Tinnion etc all spout PL talk year in, year out. Well back it up! It’s sensible though isn’t it. Not sure why we can’t be happy with highly regarded youngsters from lower leagues which many other teams at our level (and above) were interested in too. Edited January 18 by Harry 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 9 minutes ago, Harry said: It’s sensible though isn’t it. Not sure why we can’t be happy with highly regarded youngsters from lower leagues which many other teams at our level (and above) were interested in too. Not denying that but we are a poor attacking outfit and we desperately need some quality in final third. Twine is a good addition but we don’t have enough X Factor. Need it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 23 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I can see why people feel underwhelmed. It’s always the future of the club as oppose to doing a Boro and Hull and actually going for it now. We will forever just sell and replace, sell and replace. It’s a hamster wheel, I am fine if that’s what we expect to be, a mid table champ side, but the owners, Tinnion etc all spout PL talk year in, year out. Well back it up! I’m minded to view this deal in the context of two windows. I’ve been vocal on the Twine deal that I don’t think it makes sense in view of where we are likely to be this season - this one does make sense, but only if it’s not the only major incoming over this and the summer window (for avoidance of doubt I dont think we should be spending big this window). Hes 19 with seemingly a strong upside. It seems we can either buy now and loan back or have more competition/cost if he stays put and carries on as he is. So, it makes sense. And it’d be easy to say it only makes sense if we are signing others as well as development signings like this - but that argument is probably one that needs to be viewed across both now and June-August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJ Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Harry said: Exactly. For me it’s the way we should always be doing things. It’s all well and good having the academy pathway, but not every player is gonna make it. So for me we should always be looking for the best 17-20 year olds in the lower leagues - low cost, high potentials. Without going over old ground, we should have done this for the likes of Grimes, Watkins, Bowen, Key, Twine when they were all available for under half a mil (some even less) when local. Given this, picking up the likes of Stokes is very much a step in the right direction. Entirely agree and we'd likely be in a better state now if we had done this. Historically we've been a bit snobbish about non league players. Us oldies remember when the Gas had a reputation for picking up gems from non league clubs. Peterborough have also been good at that but we seemed to think it was beneath us. Tinnion produced another hostage to fortune when he said the next crop from the Academy were even better than the last mind you so you could legitimately ask why we are signing young players if that's true. But as you say you need a balanced approach. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Harry said: It’s sensible though isn’t it. Not sure why we can’t be happy with highly regarded youngsters from lower leagues which many other teams at our level (and above) were interested in too. You’re right, in as far as it’s one for the future, he’s in our jam tomorrow file. The point the poster you were responding to was making is, how does this get us promoted this season? Where is the striker we all know we need? This policy almost guarantees Championship football at best, forever. We lack goals, and besides a fit Conway and a fit Wells, we don’t have anyone capable of scoring regularly enough to get us promoted. At some stage we have to decide in January to go for it. This signing (if indeed he does) wouldn’t count as going for it. So, is there another signing besides Twine that would indicate that. Answer: No If there aren’t any further signings one could make a case that our present policy will see Tinnion in a nice comfy job at Bristol City right up to retirement. Without anything to get excited about apart from the odd cup run. Edited January 18 by Lord Northski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. I raise you Birkenhead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, Lew-T said: I raise you Birkenhead. Stoke and Doncaster. You literally see rats running around the streets of Donny and that's not a joke either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 This lad will be 20 by the end of the season. By no means old! But at that age nowadays you’d have expect them to be in and around the first time. Not always the case I know. Pring didnt break through until couple of season ago. Forget he is 26. But that tends to be the exception rather than the rule. Given the aim is premier league football in a couple of years (I know it’s wishful thinking!), I assume we look at this kid as some with the potential to play at that level? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. Ever been to Middlesbrough?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Just now, formerly known as ivan said: This lad will be 20 by the end of the season. By no means old! But at that age nowadays you’d have expect them to be in and around the first time. Not always the case I know. Pring didnt break through until couple of season ago. Forget he is 26. But that tends to be the exception rather than the rule. Given the aim is premier league football in a couple of years (I know it’s wishful thinking!), I assume we look at this kid as some with the potential to play at that level? We have to get there first so surely the aim is for him to be Championship quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TammyAB Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Stoke and Doncaster. You literally see rats running around the streets of Donny and that's not a joke either. Merthyr Tydfil. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexhill reds Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 18 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. Come to Bexhill on Sea then….dreadful place that James Cleverly could accurately describe without issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, Lew-T said: I raise you Birkenhead. I’m all in with luton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 29 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: Not denying that but we are a poor attacking outfit and we desperately need some quality in final third. Twine is a good addition but we don’t have enough X Factor. Need it now. But this is building for the future and nothing to do with what we could do with now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95red Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, Harry said: Why is it underwhelming? He’s a 19 year old from the national league. Lots of clubs want him. If we manage to get him it’ll be quite a coup to be fair. He’s not ready to step straight into Championship football. He needs a bit more experience first. If part of the deal to secure his signing is an agreement to go back on loan this season, then it’s good business. Hey, listen - I’ve always been the first one to be critical of our recruitment. But there is nothing to get angry about on this one. It’s a low fee for a sought after player. Another coup,same as the Irish lad,do you really believe they turned down prem clubs & top championship sides to join us ,if those scouts rated him he'd be there not here ,every player we sign they tell us it's a coup ,what they really mean it's cheap !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 7 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Merthyr Tydfil. Worked in Merthyr for a month, first night me and a couple of lads went into the pup next to our digs it was like a scene off a film the whole place went silent, proper throw back , it’s like it’s stuck in the 70s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 26 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. You need to get out more 13 minutes ago, TammyAB said: Merthyr Tydfil. I'll second that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 32 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. Wolverhampton is shit even worse than Middlesbrough, mind you Stoke & Burnley are desperate too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 14 minutes ago, 95red said: Another coup,same as the Irish lad,do you really believe they turned down prem clubs & top championship sides to join us ,if those scouts rated him he'd be there not here ,every player we sign they tell us it's a coup ,what they really mean it's cheap !! Do you like anything about the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Williams Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 14 minutes ago, 95red said: Another coup,same as the Irish lad,do you really believe they turned down prem clubs & top championship sides to join us ,if those scouts rated him he'd be there not here ,every player we sign they tell us it's a coup ,what they really mean it's cheap !! Who knows who they turned down but there’s a clear pathway so that prob means a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathandao Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Come on guys. I came on here to find information about a prospective new signing, and find an argument about the worst places in the UK. Please stay on topic! It's Jaywick by a long shot 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC31 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 pages for a national leauge player who hasn't even signed yet Jesus it must be quiet on the transfer front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 Rather awkwardly, Bridgwater isn’t that beautiful either. And until recently was rumoured to be twinned with Chernobyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-norwich-sunderland-9043585 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 43 minutes ago, ChrisJ said: Aldershot is the worst place I have ever visited. Guess you have not been "up north" much then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 23 minutes ago, Glen hump said: I’m all in with luton Good shout but I”ll see you with Burslem 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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