Always injured Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Ilias Chair locked up for a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 That is our ******* luck if true. The very last game before he gets sentenced to a year in prison with a year suspended, he scores the winner against us. Eh? It is small beer in the grand scheme of things but?? Eh?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gol Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Nasty business surprised its not longer https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-qpr-ilias-chair-jailed-32196431 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 (edited) Thoughts are with the truck driver who got assaulted of course but should he have been eligible to play against us and perhaps a few other sides? Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Thoughts are with the guy who got assaulted of course but should he have been eligible to play against us and perhaps a few other sides? Why wouldn’t he be eligible? (no, we aren’t getting the points) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 (edited) Just now, Davefevs said: Why wouldn’t he be eligible? (no, we aren’t getting the points) Well I dunno if there is no hard and fast rule then I guess. Innocent until Proven Guilty but other clubs have suspended players. I was thinking more a Replay minus Chair. Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Innocent until Proven Guilty but other clubs have suspended players. Importantly, QPR didn’t! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Just now, Davefevs said: Importantly, QPR didn’t! I'm just wondering but how seriously who knows. It would be us wouldn't it, it does seem typical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: I'm just wondering but how seriously who knows. It would be us wouldn't it, it does seem typical. It doesn’t matter though. We haven’t been hard done by. He’s played all bar 2 league games this season. It’s not typical! Thise 2 missed games…one was against us!!!! I know you’re trying to work an angle on this. There isn’t one. Soz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pommers65 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Just blame Wycombe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Importantly, QPR didn’t! Theres no morals when it comes to desperation. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That is our ******* luck if true. The very last game before he gets sentenced to a year in prison with a year suspended, he scores the winner against us. Eh? It is small beer in the grand scheme of things but?? Eh?? I think this is quite a bad take. I think the truck driver has the worse luck. Chair playing isn’t why we lost the game. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Just now, Davefevs said: It doesn’t matter though. We haven’t been hard done by. He’s played all bar 2 league games this season. It’s not typical! Thise 2 missed games…one was against us!!!! I know you’re trying to work an angle on this. There isn’t one. Soz Our luck really but hey no. Okay I forgot he missed vs us in November that evens out somewhat. Perhaps roles reversed he scores the winner thete and 0-0 at AG. Just now, Henry said: I think this is quite a bad take. I think the truck driver has the worse luck. Chair playing isn’t why we lost the game. You're right all thoughts with the truck driver as I said in a subsequent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 I don't understand legally though how kept it was kept out of the public domain until sentencing. Different laws in Belgium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I don't understand legally though how kept it was kept out of the public domain until sentencing. Different laws in Belgium? Even now QPR seem to still be saying it’s not official . https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/february/23/club-statement-ilias-chair/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 minute ago, Markthehorn said: Even now QPR seem to still be saying it’s not official . https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/february/23/club-statement-ilias-chair/ Thanks. The plot thickens? Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 (edited) Thinking abour it, Orr played a few days before he went to prison in 2006. Partridge wasn't very good tbh so that is the reason we didn't pick him, Brooker in 2006? Otoh we sold Ayling for something incredibly minor by comparison so I'm not sure how to view it really. Edited February 23 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markthehorn Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Thanks. The plot thickens? I know he isn’t a big name player but even so you’d thought this would all come out before . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 (edited) Oh dear. Never mind, how sad. Hope they also go down. Edited February 23 by 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 There's no conspiracy or flouting of the rules, it's up to the player's club to decide what action to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstoke toad Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Had to pay the victim £13,000 as well. Am I the only one who thinks that’s low and would want much more if someone of his financial status broke my skull ? . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 I said in the pub after the game last weekend ‘why does he still play for them? He must have something wrong with him’. Have to say I was thinking something like a chronic injury rather than this to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: I know he isn’t a big name player but even so you’d thought this would all come out before . This is the bit that surprised me, it happened in 2020 apparently. I know Covid caused a major backlog but for it to remain silent in any of our media..is unusual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, petehinton said: Theres no morals when it comes to desperation. Boom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, Markthehorn said: Even now QPR seem to still be saying it’s not official . https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/february/23/club-statement-ilias-chair/ Without knowing the Belgian legal system, I know in some countries you have the verdict passed down and then an opportunity to appeal, after which the guilt is either upheld or overturned but that the prison sentence doesn't take effect until after that process. That's how I'm reading "the legal proceeding has yet to reach its conclusion". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Talksport (fwiw) says something quite different. Says he is back in UK, is available for QPR while Appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 29 minutes ago, petehinton said: Theres no morals when it comes to desperation. I'm a bit torn on this. Obviously a player HAS to be suspended if there is an obvious safeguarding risk and a potential danger to others if that player is enabled to remain unsuspended. (So, for example, I think any player accused of sexual violence or any form of domestic violence should be suspended until the outcome of any legal proceeding because maintaining the illusion of them as a person who hasn't been accused of those things puts them in a position to harm others). I'm not sure if I think a player should be suspended before trial based on an accusation of assault and I think it probably comes down to the circumstances and whether letting the player continue to play increases the chances of a repeat incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Just now, LondonBristolian said: I'm a bit torn on this. Obviously a player HAS to be suspended if there is an obvious safeguarding risk and a potential danger to others if that player is enabled to remain unsuspended. (So, for example, I think any player accused of sexual violence or any form of domestic violence should be suspended until the outcome of any legal proceeding because maintaining the illusion of them as a person who hasn't been accused of those things puts them in a position to harm others). I'm not sure if I think a player should be suspended before trial based on an accusation of assault and I think it probably comes down to the circumstances and whether letting the player continue to play increases the chances of a repeat incident. I don't think Partey was but I don't remember that case very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Talksport (fwiw) says something quite different. Says he is back in UK, is available for QPR while Appealing. See my post above yours. Depending on Belgium's legal system, the reports don't necessarily contradict each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: I don't think Partey was but I don't remember that case very well. Technically I don't think he was ever named as the suspect in that particular case, although that was strongly reported on social media. Obviously, in reality, players aren't always suspended when accused of sexual or domestic violence. But I unequivocally think they should be. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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