WolfOfWestStreet Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Surely everyone knows Pearson wasn't saked due to the football. That was a lie. Manning won't be held to the same standards, he'll be here for a while. Unfortunately. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, JBFC II said: Issue is would we trust the board to make a good appointment? They've made 14 appointments in the last 25 years, how many of those have seen us finish in the top half of the championship? 2? Ultimately if Manning gets sacked will anyone better come in? I heavily doubt it I don’t doubt they could make a bad decision. But Manning is clueless. All that crap about not being able to train. We need six points to be safe imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Think you should change the title from Manning to Tinnion All of the management and leadership preferably. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Do think he will be under big pressure to start next season well, if we continue playing as we have done since the turn of the year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Northern Red said: And would anybody trust the people making the decision? Think the last of any goodwill left the building with Pearson, Rennie, and Euell for me. Edited February 24 by Fuber 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, REDOXO said: I don’t doubt they could make a bad decision. But Manning is clueless. All that crap about not being able to train. We need six points to be safe imo. To play devil's advocate, if you'd been given 6 points from the last 4 games would you have taken it? I agree that he's yet to prove himself as having the sort of tactical acumen needed at this level, can't see him being relieved now and if he is, I'd fear about what would happen next 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Lansdown Snr needs to get on the blower and take charge of this tragic situation that his son and BT have created. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 This is just utter utterly disappointing. Two sides in the bottom three have out thought us, we have zero creativity. We are a team that only has one plan, and when that doesn't work then we have nothing to fall back on. I'm sorry, but to me I have seen nothing from Manning to suggest he can take us to the next level. It'll be another wasted summer, we'll get to October and he'll get the boot, rinse and repeat for our board to make yet another howler of a decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 I’ll have a go. He hasn’t been sacked yet because our board probably don’t have the courage or foresight to see when things are going wrong. On a broader basis, he shouldn’t probably be sacked right now. This is the absolute opportunity to show what he can do under no promotion/relegation pressure. And to show he can perform. We lose nothing by giving him 12 games to see if he shows sustained improvement. Personally, I’ve seen nothing to suggest he will but I also would give him the opportunity - not that he’s earnt it - and make the final decision in May. At that point unless we see marked improvement I’d say he should go. But he should take Tinnion with him. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, JBFC II said: To play devil's advocate, if you'd been given 6 points from the last 4 games would you have taken it? I agree that he's yet to prove himself as having the sort of tactical acumen needed at this level, can't see him being relieved now and if he is, I'd fear about what would happen next For me it's more the performances, despite the win we clung on against Boro and we're utter carp against Millwall, QPR, Wednesday. One unexpected win against Southampton makes it worse, to be honest, as it shows that the players can play well. Which means it's down to setup, tactics, and selection - all down to the Manager. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JBFC II said: To play devil's advocate, if you'd been given 6 points from the last 4 games would you have taken it? I agree that he's yet to prove himself as having the sort of tactical acumen needed at this level, can't see him being relieved now and if he is, I'd fear about what would happen next Nine points from ten games says the Devil! We are supposed to have a top six team. We are in relegation form. Manning can’t survive on his blind squirrel tactics finding a nut against Southampton Edited February 24 by REDOXO 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Manning has to stay until the season. But at this moment, my anger is with those above him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollsRoyce Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, TV Tom said: Here we go again, so boring So post about how Manning is going to get it right. It is so boring when the only comment is "here we go again" What is it you are seeing that makes you think Manning is the right person. Or your post deserves the same response. Ostrich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Currently has 0.4 ppg less than Dean Holden btw, cup run masking how poor this really is. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd socks Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Surely there must be some good humans around ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 The performance v Southampton was a fantastic watch and well worth the money, just can't understand how that same team can be so poor in the next 2 matches. Over years City do have an absolute history of doing this though, regardless of who the manager is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, Fuber said: For me it's more the performances, despite the win we clung on against Boro and we're utter carp against Millwall, QPR, Wednesday. One unexpected win against Southampton makes it worse, to be honest, as it shows that the players can play well. Which means it's down to setup, tactics, and selection - all down to the Manager. Probably just become immune to poor performances, can't remember a consistent run of three good ones in this division for many years! I have no doubt he's a decent coach, and may well go on to be a good first team coach at this level. But there's nothing that makes me think he has the ability to be the level of manager he believes he is. 3 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Nine points from ten games says the Devil! We are supposed to have a top six team. Still can't get my head around that top 6 team quote, absolute lunacy of the highest order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cheese Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Should be. He is not the right fit for us. He is not the right guy to take us forward. He was easy and cheap option, and a huge gamble,showed lack of ambition by the board, we've been treading water,going nowhere for years! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, JBFC II said: Probably just become immune to poor performances, can't remember a consistent run of three good ones in this division for many years! I have no doubt he's a decent coach, and may well go on to be a good first team coach at this level. But there's nothing that makes me think he has the ability to be the level of manager he believes he is. Still can't get my head around that top 6 team quote, absolute lunacy of the highest order The only lunatic quote that comes close is Europa League in five years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, George Rs said: Currently has 0.4 ppg less than Dean Holden btw, cup run masking how poor this really is. Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) I think the main lesson we can learn this season - as several clubs have learned before - is that sacking the manager isn't the surefire way to improve results that we think it is. I'm therefore personally not jumping towards "Sack the manager" as the answer. Whilst I didn't want Pearson to go, I don't actually think our points total would be all that different if he was still in post. We're mid-table because that's where our team is. We might win a couple and talk about promotion, then lose a couple and then talk about relegation and so on ad nauseam but mid-table is about right. And I'm no more about to accept losing two in a row as evidence that we're dramatically declining as I was prepared to accept winning two in a row before that as evidence we were hurtling towards promotion. Edited February 24 by LondonBristolian 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 19 minutes ago, Capman said: Let’s be honest. Sacking Pearson was nothing to do with football. So the comparison is pretty meaningless. OK, why was he sacked, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, Gaseater said: Because he wasn’t going to get a new deal and started kicking off. And you know that as a fact, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, REDOXO said: The only lunatic quote that comes close is Europa League in five years Both topped by this in my book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, LondonBristolian said: I think the main lesson we can learn this season - as several clubs have learned before - is that sacking the manager isn't the surefire way to improve results that we think it is. I'm therefore personally not jumping towards "Sack the manager" as the answer. Whilst I didn't want Pearson to go, I don't actually think our points total would be all that difference if he was still in post. We're mid-table because that's where our team is. We might win a couple and talk about promotion, then lose a couple and then talk about relegation and so on ad nauseam but mid-table is about right. And I'm no more about to accept losing two in a row as evidence that we're dramatically declining as I was prepared to accept winning two in a row before that as evidence we were hurtling towards promotion. We’ve sacked the manager many times and it has barely worked. Cotts probably the only time, even GJ took months to fix the mess from Tinnion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Just now, Big Cheese said: He was easy and cheap option, and a huge gamble,showed lack of ambition by the board, we've been treading water,going nowhere for years! Hang on, he was contracted to Oxford so we would have had to pay compensation to them and improve the wages that Manning and his staff were on so not like employing an out of work guy. Easy? Easier than trying to persuade someone with an established record of success to come here I am certain. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I’ll have a go. He hasn’t been sacked yet because our board probably don’t have the courage or foresight to see when things are going wrong. On a broader basis, he shouldn’t probably be sacked right now. This is the absolute opportunity to show what he can do under no promotion/relegation pressure. And to show he can perform. We lose nothing by giving him 12 games to see if he shows sustained improvement. Personally, I’ve seen nothing to suggest he will but I also would give him the opportunity - not that he’s earnt it - and make the final decision in May. At that point unless we see marked improvement I’d say he should go. But he should take Tinnion with him. I think where I'm at with this is that we're in danger of the good culture that was in place of eroding. Signs of that already. Players have lost confidence. We know those two things are really difficult to change. I personally think that continuing to back a horse with 3 legs is quite ridiculous. Rather than having some blind faith that it might work out we should probably look to take the bull by the horns and be pro active. IF a change was made now it would give a new man time to evaluate the squad etc. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with Manning deciding the futures of players like James etc. 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Because the Lansdown’s are weak willed liars 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, George Rs said: Currently has 0.4 ppg less than Dean Holden btw, cup run masking how poor this really is. This deserves a heading! Abysmal record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Son of Fred said: Bide your time- He'll be history before the year's out. Yes quite possibly, if this continues. Bare minimum, we need to do brilliant transfer business in the summer. Edited February 24 by Merrick's Marvels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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