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I have read a lot of supporters saying that they are not going to renew their season tickets for next season due to the way the club is heading. I have had a season ticket for nearly 50 years and have seen lots of lows and a few highs but due to a cancer scare and the possibility of going back on Chemotherapy I am seriously thinking of not renewing my ST. We sell our best players year in year out we sack a manger with bags of top flight experience for a guy from a lower division who got Oxford playing well for a while (but was also sacked from MK Dons) . The club seems to be a shambles at the moment its more of a franchise these days than my football club who I've followed through thick and thin over the years.

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Whatever you decide to do your health is far more important & I hope it works out ok for you.

As I know from recent experience when this happens in your family everything else is suddenly far less important.

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2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Whatever you decide to do your health is far more important & I hope it works out ok for you.

As I know from recent experience when this happens in your family everything else is suddenly far less important.

Thanks Graham .

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Another poster on here made a great point yesterday, along the lines of - if it wasn’t for the emotional attachment to Bristol City, how much would we really be willing to pay for the football on offer?

Football is a spectator sport, and there has to be an entertainment value. Negative sideways and backwards passing to achieve the sum of sweet FA is not entertaining. 
 

When we signed on Nige, that was a huge motivator for me to get my ST back after a 5 year break under LJ. The longer we stay persist with the delusional duo (Tinnion and JL) with the personality vacuum that is Manning leading the team then the more it’s looking like a membership, rather than an ST, for me next season. 

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you might consider another option

Would like not to, but cannot kick the habit.

 

i was trying to recall the last truly DULL manager we had when it went to shit - i suppose LJ , but even then there seemed to be a bit more about the club.

The Lansdowns have really truly f ucked this.

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It's only the emotional attachment that keeps us going 

I didn't renew two seasons ago for the first time in over 20 years due to a combination of reasons and I have to say that I don't miss going to all the games anymore, it really feels like a chore to go 

What I do miss is the pre and post match social side of meeting friends and random supporters 

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@westonred, I’d completely echo what @GrahamC said above, but at the same time, don’t make that decision in anger after three defeats and cut off your nose to spite your face.

I had a cancer scare years ago, and for me going to the football, going to watch City, was massively important. It gave me some normality, something to hang onto, and just an outlet once or twice a week to forget everything else.

I honestly can’t remember whether we were doing well or badly at the time. It didn’t really matter. Just don’t let that get to you. It’s about more than the 90 minutes on the pitch anyway. And even that just enjoy as a game of football, supporting your team. We all know that being a football fan is mostly about disappointment, and that that’s what makes the occasional successes so special.

But whatever you decide, all the best.

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We’ve had a few of these polls in the last 5 or 6 years and we always end up with the same amount of SC holders, if not more.

I think Covid times proved to a lot of us that we don’t turn up JUST for the football, it’s everything that goes with it that a lot of us missed when we weren’t allowed to go.

Best of luck with your health issues @westonred you can always get a membership and pick and chose games

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For the first time in the 20 years or so I’ve had a season ticket I’m going to give serious thought to not renewing this time. 

Since I retired a few years ago I don’t need the ‘release’ of going to the game as I used to. The experience itself is pretty dull at the moment anyway, so it often feels more of a chore than a pleasure. I much prefer 3pm Saturday games to ones at ‘odd times’ on the weekend (Saturday 5.30 is OK as it can be followed by an evening in the pub, but it’s a real pain to get to a game by lunchtime (and to get home after a midweek game); and Sunday games get in the way of other things I do).

It seems the new TV deal next year will mean more games will be at odd times, but will be available on Sky. So the option of buying a membership and picking and choosing my live games seems quite appealing ATM.

If I do renew, it will be more for social than footballing reasons: City games are the main times I get together with my oldest local friend, who comes over from his home near Newport for the City games. If I thought our meet-ups would wither away without City games I’d probably stick to getting a ST.

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20 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

We’ve had a few of these polls in the last 5 or 6 years and we always end up with the same amount of SC holders, if not more.

I was just about to post to say the same thing. Our SC numbers have been steadily rising for years now, despite posts on here every year claiming that people aren't going to renew, nor are all the people they sit with. 

Personally, as long as I can afford it, and personal circumstances allow, I'll renew. 

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The thing is the majority of games are moved to accomodate TV now Sundays Friday Nights 12.30 on a Sat. The parking is horrendous around BS3 now if the football is dire so i believe that people will stop going 

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I don’t know. I had planned to move from the family stand nightmare zone, to the lower Lansdown.  A hefty increase but worth it.
 

Yea the football is woeful and we’re run by mugs, but it’s worth it to take the kids . Someone on another thread mentioned value, and that’s where I get mine from. 
 

However:

How much of an impact is the new tv deal going to have - I think the club should be very open on how many games will be Saturday 3pm as a %.
 

We don’t know what division we’ll be in yet. 

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38 minutes ago, elhombrecito said:

I was just about to post to say the same thing. Our SC numbers have been steadily rising for years now, despite posts on here every year claiming that people aren't going to renew, nor are all the people they sit with. 

Personally, as long as I can afford it, and personal circumstances allow, I'll renew. 

That’s true but the ground is never as full as the number of ST sold.

We have skewed these figures by the cheap additional ST for a kid but they make little impact on our cash flow.

If I was in charge of marketing I’d be very interested in the number of full price ST we sell & if that falls then I’d be concerned.

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5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

That’s true but the ground is never as full as the number of ST sold.

We have skewed these figures by the cheap additional ST for a kid but they make little impact on our cash flow.

If I was in charge of marketing I’d be very interested in the number of full price ST we sell & if that falls then I’d be concerned.

Can’t see the Upper Lansdown from where I sit but given the number of empty seats in the South Stand each game, I’m guessing quite a few in what are some of the cheapest seats won’t bother renewing if they aren’t coming now.

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I’m personally still behind Manning but even if it was a manager I wasn’t behind best believe I’d still renew. Going to football on the weekend has been part of my life every year and I wouldn’t change it. If the news around the TV deal means our games get moved then it may mean I miss a few games but I feel like I’m in a good position to justify it

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1 minute ago, Dr Balls said:

Can’t see the Upper Lansdown from where I sit but given the number of empty seats in the South Stand each game, I’m guessing quite a few in what are some of the cheapest seats won’t bother renewing if they aren’t coming now.

I see it differently.

I think we have sold a fair amount of these to middle class families who are perfectly ok with only seeing around half the games for the cost of one adult ticket & so it looks half full a lot of the time.

Night games in particular (especially if on the red button) must see about 30% not turning up for a variety of reasons.

Our fan base is very different from the 90s now.

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2 hours ago, westonred said:

I have read a lot of supporters saying that they are not going to renew their season tickets for next season due to the way the club is heading. I have had a season ticket for nearly 50 years and have seen lots of lows and a few highs but due to a cancer scare and the possibility of going back on Chemotherapy I am seriously thinking of not renewing my ST. We sell our best players year in year out we sack a manger with bags of top flight experience for a guy from a lower division who got Oxford playing well for a while (but was also sacked from MK Dons) . The club seems to be a shambles at the moment its more of a franchise these days than my football club who I've followed through thick and thin over the years.

Yes, as usual, but last moment possible.

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My circumstances dictate that I only go for the actual match. I.e. no socialising before or after the game. So for me it's all about the product on the pitch, and atm, that is not reason to renew.

Access to and from the game is difficult as well transport wise. There aren't many positives from my perspective. 

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3 hours ago, Barrs Court Red said:

I don’t know. I had planned to move from the family stand nightmare zone, to the lower Lansdown.  A hefty increase but worth it.
 

Yea the football is woeful and we’re run by mugs, but it’s worth it to take the kids . Someone on another thread mentioned value, and that’s where I get mine from. 
 

However:

How much of an impact is the new tv deal going to have - I think the club should be very open on how many games will be Saturday 3pm as a %.
 

We don’t know what division we’ll be in yet. 

Don’t think we’ll know the fixture times and tv matches until they are announced in June. Sounds like half of our matches (23) could be on TV - that’s the average anyway - but of course we don’t know the split between home and away. On the positive side we’ll know all the matches times up until Christmas. 

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2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

I see it differently.

I think we have sold a fair amount of these to middle class families who are perfectly ok with only seeing around half the games for the cost of one adult ticket & so it looks half full a lot of the time.

Night games in particular (especially if on the red button) must see about 30% not turning up for a variety of reasons.

Our fan base is very different from the 90s now.

Yes and I think there will be even more no shows with the new TV deal, especially if kick off times are not 3pm on a Saturday. This season if you go to every match it is only £16.74 per game (that’s the full adult price). Even if you miss 8 games, it is still ‘only’ £25 per game. Of course, it is likely to be more expensive next season, but I’d be surprised if goes over £400 (it was £385 this season). 

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I think this whole Manning thing has got a little out of hand. And me deciding not to renew isn’t anything to do with him 

It’s a combination of losing the feeling of FOMO since Nige has been sacked and the fact that coming from East London relying on trains through strikes and unreliability makes another year of doing that not very appealing 

So will probably go for membership next season 

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This question is asked every year. Often people say they won’t but the total remains roughly the same. I’m sure this is because of the cheaper childrens’ tickets sold so it would be interesting to know how many full price tickets are sold. 
 

PS - I will because I’ve been stupid to support City for so long and I’m stuck in an addiction 

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I guess it depends on you motivation for buying a ticket, is it something you expect something back from, winning football, promotion to the prem, thrilling football.

Whereas the reality of watching a mid table championship team is a mix of success and disappointment, but you are following the team you support thru the ups and downs as well as the whole match day experience. Whilst I hate losing to Cardiff as much as the gas, I still had a good day watching a game and the frustration that came with it, a few beers with mates and chatting with a bit of banter with all the other ST holders I have got to know around us. Unfortunately no guarantees at this level of what you will get for your money.

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6 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

I guess it depends on you motivation for buying a ticket, is it something you expect something back from, winning football, promotion to the prem, thrilling football.

Whereas the reality of watching a mid table championship team is a mix of success and disappointment, but you are following the team you support thru the ups and downs as well as the whole match day experience. Whilst I hate losing to Cardiff as much as the gas, I still had a good day watching a game and the frustration that came with it, a few beers with mates and chatting with a bit of banter with all the other ST holders I have got to know around us. Unfortunately no guarantees at this level of what you will get for your money.

I agree with all that BUT far too many games at the Gate are very Low Q. Large parts of yesterday would struggle to be professional standard let alone Championship. You could coach Southern League players to knock it around at the back, get pressed then lump it forwards aimlessly. I was watching on a number of occasions ten yard passes under no more than average pressure going straight out of play. No excuse for that. In fact when Vyner did that on 70 minutes that was my cue to **** off!!

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49 minutes ago, eardun said:

Yes and I think there will be even more no shows with the new TV deal, especially if kick off times are not 3pm on a Saturday. This season if you go to every match it is only £16.74 per game (that’s the full adult price). Even if you miss 8 games, it is still ‘only’ £25 per game. Of course, it is likely to be more expensive next season, but I’d be surprised if goes over £400 (it was £385 this season). 

I suspect that as long as Joe wants to keep coming, I’ll renew…but the tv deal is a big unknown isn’t it.

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I was here before Lansdown….i was here before Manning….health permitting I’ll be here long after both of them have gone. It’s my club and has been since my first game in 1976. 

Next season will be my 39th with a season ticket and I hope to go to many more.

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16 hours ago, Clevedon Red said:

I was here before Lansdown….i was here before Manning….health permitting I’ll be here long after both of them have gone. It’s my club and has been since my first game in 1976. 

Next season will be my 39th with a season ticket and I hope to go to many more.

I will probably end up having S/T but its not an enjoyable experience these days. With a season ticket price increase on the horizon no free parking available anymore.  Also with a new TV deal coming in showing 328 championship games live kick off times will be all over the place they dont care about supporters going to matches just a TV audience  (We currently havent got a home 3pm kick of this March)  Football is suppose to be entertaining and apart from a few odd games City are not producing the goods Saying all this i bet up renewing 

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