Losing one’s temper

[Ivorguy]

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

[exAtyeoMax]

2 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

sort of reminds me of LJ getting angry with the players.

[DaveF]

4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

sort of reminds me of LJ getting angry with the players.

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

[marmite]

2 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

Maybe that's the problem. They hear him and think...fxxk you.

[The Original OTIB]

3 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

about as frightening as

[Numero Uno]

"Lads, if you keep playing like that I'll get very cross"...............

[Super]

Really needed yet another thread

[Open End Numb Legs]

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. If City had been bottom he could have built a siege mentality and talked a hard game where anything good was a bonus. If City had been in the top 6 he would have had a team already with confidence where he could tell them what they want to hear to keep them on track.

Instead, being mid table,, he couldn't beat them up and neither could he tell them they were doing everything right.

[marmite]

2 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. If City had been bottom he could have built a siege mentality and talked a hard game where anything good was a bonus. If City had been in the top 6 he would have had a team already with confidence where he could tell them what they want to hear to keep them on track.

Instead, being mid table,, he couldn't beat them up and neither could he tell them they were doing everything right.

I know which two stools he fell between.

[Northern Red]

20 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. If City had been bottom he could have built a siege mentality and talked a hard game where anything good was a bonus. If City had been in the top 6 he would have had a team already with confidence where he could tell them what they want to hear to keep them on track.

Instead, being mid table,, he couldn't beat them up and neither could he tell them they were doing everything right.

Managers normally take over when a club is in the shit. Most would bite your hand off to take charge of a side with no attitude problems and bumbling along comfortably in mid-table. What most probably wouldn't be doing in that scenario is ripping the lot up and ******* the lot up.

If Liam tried to "beat anyone up" Andy King or Matty James would probably tell him to shut the **** up" and that wouldn't happen again.

[Ivorguy]

22 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

 

Sometimes one needs to take a step backwards in order to go forward.

 

Imo we are in serious trouble with Manning in charge.

 

Do you really want to take a real risk of relegation if a one-off victory keeps Manning in control until last match of season?  If so, I disagree

[Lack of Action Man]

33 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

"Lads, if you keep playing like that I'll get very cross"...............

Yeah this exactly, sorry but LM doesn’t look like he could fight his way out of a paper bag let alone fight for his job.

[Red-Robbo]

38 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Surely LJ and Manning getting angry would be funny to the players rather than intimidating or motivating? They're hardly Pearson are they... Not exactly blokes you'd be scared of.

 

The question is can Manning face down a pack of Transylvanian wolves?

[stortfordred]

32 minutes ago, Open End Numb Legs said:

I wonder if he fell between 2 stools when he took over. 

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

29 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Do you still want us to lose tomorrow?

 

3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

Well- there we have it. A victory against Ipswich will be largely meaningless and you'd want BCFC to lose for the greater good. Madness.

[Sturgess]

Where is your passion and effort? Where are my leaders, doing by example. 

P.s don’t get too emotional

Edited March 4 by Sturgess

[eardun]

55 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

Don’t think he said ‘tough guy’ looking at this. Nothing wrong with what he says in my view:

Liam Manning prepared to show a different side as Bristol City look to address alarming slump

Bristol City travel to promotion-seeking Ipswich Town in the midst of a run which is veering them towards the wrong end of the Championship

James Piercy

Bristol City head coach Liam Manning (Photo by Kieran McManus/REX/Shutterstock)

We’re not exactly in “no more Mr. Nice Guy” territory here, but Liam Manning insists there’s another side to him reserved solely for the dressing room as he tries to navigate Bristol City out of their current slump.

City have lost three straight games to sides below them in the Championship table, scoring just once, and from a position of optimism and excitement at what the final third of the 2023/24 season could hold, it’s quickly become one of considerable concern with just six points separating the Robins and Stoke City in 22nd and the start of the relegation zone. 

Tuesday’s trip to Ipswich Town doesn’t resemble an obvious place to secure three much-needed points, as the second-placed Tractor Boys bid for a sixth consecutive win and a chance to join Leicester City level on points at the top of the Championship.

But, as games against QPR, Sheffield Wednesday and Cardiff City have further revealed, City continue to struggle against low possession teams, something Ipswich head coach Kieran McKenna has noted in the build-up to this fixture. 

Throughout this troubling fortnight, which has opened up wounds around Nigel Pearson’s departure which had never gone away but had at least begun to heal slightly, Manning’s demeanour has remained largely the same; a default setting of composed and controlled, to the point of almost irritation among some supporters, given the chaos they believe is unfolding.

It all feeds back into the head coach’s ethos of strictly managing emotions and, in simple terms, not getting too high in moments of success, and too low when the opposite occurs.

Manning has previously admitted to using strong words to elicit a response, at half-time against Huddersfield Town when City secured a point after being 1-0 down, and he indicated a similar tone was taken post-Cardiff, which runs contrary to his public-facing persona. Although, that was quickly peppered with a trademark dose of calm when discussing the bigger picture. 

“I’m usually emotional,” Manning said. “I think the changing room is a sacred place so how I am emotionally in front of the lads, that will change game to game. So you’ll see a certain side of me out here, when I’m in there it’s not always as calm and collected as you see.

“The frustration comes from saying the same messages, and that’s the biggest bit. We can coach, we can tactically set up perfect, but we have to have people stepping up and taking responsibility - we need leaders.

“That’s something the players need to see. Do I get angry, do I get frustrated, do I show that to the players? 100 per cent I do, you only have to ask the lads that. But I do think, now we’re moving onto Tuesday, if I carry that hangover over as well, I can’t then expect the players not to. It’s how you show emotion and sometimes they need someone that stays calm in challenging situations.”

[The Original OTIB]

7 minutes ago, eardun said:

Don’t think he said ‘tough guy’ looking at this. Nothing wrong with what he says in my view:

Liam Manning prepared to show a different side as Bristol City look to address alarming slump

Bristol City travel to promotion-seeking Ipswich Town in the midst of a run which is veering them towards the wrong end of the Championship

James Piercy

Bristol City head coach Liam Manning (Photo by Kieran McManus/REX/Shutterstock)

We’re not exactly in “no more Mr. Nice Guy” territory here, but Liam Manning insists there’s another side to him reserved solely for the dressing room as he tries to navigate Bristol City out of their current slump.

City have lost three straight games to sides below them in the Championship table, scoring just once, and from a position of optimism and excitement at what the final third of the 2023/24 season could hold, it’s quickly become one of considerable concern with just six points separating the Robins and Stoke City in 22nd and the start of the relegation zone. 

Tuesday’s trip to Ipswich Town doesn’t resemble an obvious place to secure three much-needed points, as the second-placed Tractor Boys bid for a sixth consecutive win and a chance to join Leicester City level on points at the top of the Championship.

But, as games against QPR, Sheffield Wednesday and Cardiff City have further revealed, City continue to struggle against low possession teams, something Ipswich head coach Kieran McKenna has noted in the build-up to this fixture. 

Throughout this troubling fortnight, which has opened up wounds around Nigel Pearson’s departure which had never gone away but had at least begun to heal slightly, Manning’s demeanour has remained largely the same; a default setting of composed and controlled, to the point of almost irritation among some supporters, given the chaos they believe is unfolding.

It all feeds back into the head coach’s ethos of strictly managing emotions and, in simple terms, not getting too high in moments of success, and too low when the opposite occurs.

Manning has previously admitted to using strong words to elicit a response, at half-time against Huddersfield Town when City secured a point after being 1-0 down, and he indicated a similar tone was taken post-Cardiff, which runs contrary to his public-facing persona. Although, that was quickly peppered with a trademark dose of calm when discussing the bigger picture. 

“I’m usually emotional,” Manning said. “I think the changing room is a sacred place so how I am emotionally in front of the lads, that will change game to game. So you’ll see a certain side of me out here, when I’m in there it’s not always as calm and collected as you see.

“The frustration comes from saying the same messages, and that’s the biggest bit. We can coach, we can tactically set up perfect, but we have to have people stepping up and taking responsibility - we need leaders.

“That’s something the players need to see. Do I get angry, do I get frustrated, do I show that to the players? 100 per cent I do, you only have to ask the lads that. But I do think, now we’re moving onto Tuesday, if I carry that hangover over as well, I can’t then expect the players not to. It’s how you show emotion and sometimes they need someone that stays calm in challenging situations.”

Tinnion "look into my eyes" all over again.

[GrahamC]

Andy Llewellyn once famously said that in all the time he played under Joe Jordan that he never lost his temper once, he said his look was enough.

I suppose starting off by being a scary bloke who also scored in 3 different World Cups & played in Serie A for AC Milan is a bit of a head start, but I doubt losing your temper is ever likely to achieve much.

[IAmNick]

16 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

 

Well- there we have it. A victory against Ipswich will be largely meaningless and you'd want BCFC to lose for the greater good. Madness.

If he thinks that's City's greatest chance of success why is it so mad?

I'm not sure I agree by the way, but just wondering.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, IAmNick said:

If he thinks that's City's greatest chance of success why is it so mad?

I'm not sure I agree by the way, but just wondering.

Let's not go there again.....................

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

Just now, IAmNick said:

If he thinks that's City's greatest chance of success why is it so mad?

I'm not sure I agree by the way, but just wondering.

I cannot explain why losing is a good thing hence mad. Then again the OP has a decade of negativity behind him so maybe it's no surprise?

[Northern Red]

30 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

Yes if it means we can avoid relegation, for a victory will be largely meaningless in the grand scheme of Manning’s lack of ability to coach/manage.

 

Sometimes one needs to take a step backwards in order to go forward.

 

Imo we are in serious trouble with Manning in charge.

 

Do you really want to take a real risk of relegation if a one-off victory keeps Manning in control until last match of season?  If so, I disagree

Cracking.

So if we do lose, I assume you won't be treating us to your usual hysterical nonsense afterwards?

Yeah, thought not...

[Roger Red Hat]

Anybody think that the next 'uncut' will have a little segment of Liam losing his rag?

[Merrick's Marvels]

58 minutes ago, marmite said:

Maybe that's the problem. They hear him and think...fxxk you.

Yep, absolutely. He's already recorded on the club's own social media output as telling players "I've told you already...".

At which point, there's the distinct possibility a few of them were thinking "who the heck are you". The worse results are, the more likely this reaction.

It's why we're getting rid of lots of experienced players and replacing them in the summer with teenagers from Aldershot, Ireland and who knows what other minor leagues.

Which is exactly where we'll end up if Tinnion and puppet Manning remain in charge long enough.

[IAmNick]

4 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

I cannot explain why losing is a good thing hence mad. Then again the OP has a decade of negativity behind him so maybe it's no surprise?

Yeah fair, I'm not sure I can ever remember wanting City to lose, but I can sort of see the logic in it.

[phantom]

1 hour ago, Ivorguy said:

According to Bristol Live on Newsnow Bristol City, Manning has talked about being a tough guy in the dressing room. As I have said before this is not a good managerial look in 21st century.

He needs to own his own mistakes and attempt to carry a united team forward.  We have lost a great deal with Nige’s going

Sorry to be pedantic but your title and opening question are essentially two different things 

But taking your point he's about as scary as LJ was

[Numero Uno]

2 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Yep, absolutely. He's already recorded on the club's own social media output as telling players "I've told you already...".

At which point, there's the distinct possibility a few of them were thinking "who the heck are you". The worse results are, the more likely this reaction.

It's why we're getting rid of lots of experienced players and replacing them in the summer with teenagers from Aldershot, Ireland and who knows what other minor leagues.

Which is exactly where we'll end up if Tinnion and puppet Manning remain in charge long enough.

How many clubs in the Prem have a "strategy" of "picking up Championship players with 150 league games under their belt"? None because guess where they'll ''end up? Yet Sid reckons we can fill our squad with "lower league gems" and do the complete opposite in the Championship. Can someone please make this make sense?

[1960maaan]

8 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

Anybody think that the next 'uncut' will have a little segment of Liam losing his rag?

Boss , Boss, you ok ?