formerly known as ivan Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 … would you take it? 1 1 2 2 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitrom Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 No thank you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Jesus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silvio Dante Posted March 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 5 Just now, formerly known as ivan said: … would you take it? My default position and the one I’ll always fall back on is I support Bristol City. Not Liam Manning, not Brian Tinnion - Bristol City. Now that does mean that the clubs success happens to people I don’t care for, but I’d rather see the club do well than not. So for all I think Liam and Brian and Jon need to go for the good of the club, I’d much rather we won the remaining 11 than anything else. That being said, I totally get the logic. And if you work on the basis we’re going to be patchy at best until seasons end, it’s better to get the defeats done now and what looks the inevitable to happen. So, I’d much rather we won. But I wouldn’t in some ways be heartbroken if what you say did happen and it was the catalyst for change. 25 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Would I want the team I support to lose 7-0? No thanks 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: My default position and the one I’ll always fall back on is I support Bristol City. Not Liam Manning, not Brian Tinnion - Bristol City. Now that does mean that the clubs success happens to people I don’t care for, but I’d rather see the club do well than not. So for all I think Liam and Brian and Jon need to go for the good of the club, I’d much rather we won the remaining 11 than anything else. That being said, I totally get the logic. And if you work on the basis we’re going to be patchy at best until seasons end, it’s better to get the defeats done now and what looks the inevitable to happen. So, I’d much rather we won. But I wouldn’t in some ways be heartbroken if what you say did happen and it was the catalyst for change. A 7-0 humiliation live on TV To Ipswich ? Couldn’t even consider it for a second , SD , even if we had appointed Barton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Would I want the team I support to lose 7-0? No thanks saturday would be funny though 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted March 5 Author Report Share Posted March 5 Maybe it’s just me then whose gone past the point of caring 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: My default position and the one I’ll always fall back on is I support Bristol City. Not Liam Manning, not Brian Tinnion - Bristol City. Now that does mean that the clubs success happens to people I don’t care for, but I’d rather see the club do well than not. So for all I think Liam and Brian and Jon need to go for the good of the club, I’d much rather we won the remaining 11 than anything else. That being said, I totally get the logic. And if you work on the basis we’re going to be patchy at best until seasons end, it’s better to get the defeats done now and what looks the inevitable to happen. So, I’d much rather we won. But I wouldn’t in some ways be heartbroken if what you say did happen and it was the catalyst for change. Depends if you go for the short term or long term view. Do I want us to win tonight? Yes of course Does something dramatic need to happen to get rid of Tinnion first of all, and old man Lansdown to come to his senses re correct help for his son? Yes it does Sadly I think a few heavy defeats towards the end of the season causing more obvious angst amongst the fanbase to Tinnion and the Lansdowns is more in the long term interests of our success than bumbling our way to 56 points (as long as we survive in the league) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Just now, redsquirrel said: saturday would be funny though What’s happening Saturday ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 and believe it or not, i think we have got a chance of a result tonight 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Back of the Dolman said: What’s happening Saturday ? sorry,sunday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back of the Dolman Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Just now, redsquirrel said: sorry,sunday I didn’t want you to turn up for nothing on Saturday but that could still be the same Sunday of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: A 7-0 humiliation live on TV To Ipswich ? Couldn’t even consider it for a second , SD , even if we had appointed Barton I should also add that one of my best mates is an Ipswich fan so I really don’t want it to happen mate - more saying I get the “greater good” logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Have any of our previous heavy defeats brought about seismic change that has delivered long-term success? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 15 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: … would you take it? Keep your powder dry- Manning will be gone sometime this year.... Sadly it will be dear Jon recruiting his replacement! It's unfortunate that Tinnion won't be leaving with him imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: saturday would be funny though Flashback to another Swansea game involving Tinnion…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said: I didn’t want you to turn up for nothing on Saturday but that could still be the same Sunday of course 1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said: I didn’t want you to turn up for nothing on Saturday but that could still be the same Sunday of course top man im not going back down bs3 but was going to s weds til my gearbox went. ive got another car now so hopefully going to go and cheers cotts on at some point until i can trust my car on longer journeys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 I don't think we have lost by more than 2 goals all season have we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Super said: I don't think we have lost by more than 2 goals all season have we? i dont think so, how leeds didnt do it to us i will never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 I don’t want us to lose, nor lose heavily. As per @Silvio Dante’s post, for me the catalyst can be driven from something other than a single-match result, so I don’t really concur.. FWIW I think we have a great bunch of pros and I really think they will play for each other. There is also some self-preservation in there, that says I don’t want the finger being pointed at me and my teammates, if they think the problems are elsewhere. Just imagine this game was on sky and lots of people looking on. Ah, hmmm, shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, redsquirrel said: top man im not going back down bs3 but was going to s weds til my gearbox went. ive got another car now so hopefully going to go and cheers cotts on at some point until i can trust my car on longer journeys Soft top? Sat nav set to BS3. go, go, go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Soft top? Sat nav set to BS3. go, go, go! no mate unfortunately not,the one i wanted was unavailable for my inner leg measurement, i couldnt reach the pedals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Have any of our previous heavy defeats brought about seismic change that has delivered long-term success? I hate to say it… But shipping the seven at Swansea led to getting rid of Tinnion and the appointment of Johnson, which in turn led to promotion the following season, our highest league finish for a generation and several years at the level above. It lasted about 5 years. So, it depends what you mean by long term and or seismic change. But I’d argue that in the sphere of a football club, a managerial change is fairly seismic and a markedly improved position for at least half a decade is at least medium term success. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 28 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: … would you take it? Of course not. What an idiotic thread………….. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I hate to say it… But shipping the seven at Swansea led to getting rid of Tinnion and the appointment of Johnson, which in turn led to promotion the following season, our highest league finish for a generation and several years at the level above. It lasted about 5 years. So, it depends what you mean by long term and or seismic change. But I’d argue that in the sphere of a football club, a managerial change is fairly seismic and a markedly improved position for at least half a decade is at least medium term success. Fair. And...whisper it quietly...but for all the faults the Johnson reign is our most successful period at this level in modern times. Decent example, although the seismic change I'd like to see is further up the hierarchy than the manager/head coach. Not sure we've ever seen board (or pseudo-board in the case of the Tecknical Directer) change after a defeat? Edited March 5 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 21 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: Maybe it’s just me then whose gone past the point of caring No, I think that there are a lot feeling the same way. What a clusterf*ck the has engineered 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Fair. And...whisper it quietly...but for all the faults the Johnson reign is our most successful period at this level in modern times. Decent example, although the seismic change I'd like to see is further up the hierarchy than the manager/head coach. Not sure we've ever seen board (or pseudo-board in the case of the Tecknical Directer) change after a defeat? I’d agree with that. I’m not sure a defeat would ever lead to a sale of a club/chairman resignation so we’ll never get that far up the chain. I can, however foresee Tinnion acting to get rid of Liam and protect his own position. Ironically a 7-0 defeat may do for Liam but a run such as which we’re on continuing is more likely to also see BT go - so it may actually even be a decent result for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Absolutely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 24 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I hate to say it… But shipping the seven at Swansea led to getting rid of Tinnion and the appointment of Johnson, which in turn led to promotion the following season, our highest league finish for a generation and several years at the level above. It lasted about 5 years. So, it depends what you mean by long term and or seismic change. But I’d argue that in the sphere of a football club, a managerial change is fairly seismic and a markedly improved position for at least half a decade is at least medium term success. Context was a bit different though - Tinnion had a year and a bit of mediocre results. Manning has had 5? Months and had some signs of progress at least, albeit others where we’ve gone backwards. That said I do remember saying to my wife that I hoped we’d get humiliated once it was clear we were going to lose that Swansea game, as it might force hands. Sure enough….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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