headhunter Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Join us live @ 9.00 Wednesday as we review the match action. If only Nahki's effort had gone in rather than hit the post Mehmeti - decent goal and deserved another but for a fine save MOL saves penalty but Pring skinned by former player Wes Burns; should he have even started? Does this ease the pressure on LM? Plenty for DaveP, Mark, Ian, Tom & DaveFevs to talk about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Monaghan Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Looking forward to seeing you @W-S-M Seagull. Actually think you talk some sense, so looking forward to seeing your matchup against Ian. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Join them live if you don’t have a job! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 It was certainly an improvement on Saturday and we played well at times, but lets not kid ourselves, the concentration and defending was woeful. We were out done second half by an in game management master class from McKenna, a coach of the like we can only dream of right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 4 defeats on the bounce increases pressure, regardless of performance. We are sleep walking towards the drop zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Bottom of the form table (forget Rotherham). 23 points from 21 games. An improved performance but zero points. Ian will have the solution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 I'll find the positives while the peasants are revolting. Look forward to you joining us tomorrow. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I'll find the positives while the peasants are revolting. Look forward to you joining us tomorrow. I completely get that Mark but look at where we are....I hope I don't hear anyone say that we weren't moaning when we beat Southampton. It was one game. The form is horrendous and stats don't lie. Look at the form table and tell me if anyone is believing in the BT & JL project. Board deluded. Feel for Manning but the lad has not helped himself trying to adopt a completely different playing style and please don't talk about injuries tomorrow. Every club gets them. Edited March 5 by Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 An oasis of delusion again from these gentlemen. Of course we were going to play ok, as we have done all season against these types of teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 6 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: An oasis of delusion again from these gentlemen. Of course we were going to play ok, as we have done all season against these types of teams Yep. It was totally to be expected because we were able to play in a way that this squad was built to play. Tonight's performance in no way translates to games against teams that don't play an attacking game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, Tomo said: I completely get that Mark but look at where we are....I hope I don't hear anyone say that we weren't moaning when we beat Southampton. It was one game. The form is horrendous and stats don't lie. Look at the form table and tell me if anyone is believing in the BT & JL project. Board deluded. Feel for Manning but the lad has not helped himself trying to adopt a completely different playing style and please don't talk about injuries tomorrow. Every club gets them. I said after the Southampton game that QPR would present a completely different problem, which we failed to beat. Repeat against Cardiff and a limp performance against Wednesday has created a mini crisis. Tonight was far better, but I'm under no illusions about fan reaction if we lose to Swansea. I'm absolutely sick right now and stressed out after watching that game Tomo. I can't pretend we managed the game well in the last 10 minutes. I'm hopeful this is a positive turning point, despite a defeat and we come back stronger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 Only started listening after Sheff Wed, enjoyed listening to the last couple. Thought the young lad in particular spoke well at the weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 52 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: Looking forward to seeing you @W-S-M Seagull. Actually think you talk some sense, so looking forward to seeing your matchup against Ian. It would be nice to see Mr S on a future podcast. I disagree with a lot of his points, but he frames them well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Red Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 I'm tuning in just to call Ian a knob in the messages. 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dynamite Red said: I'm tuning in just to call Ian a knob in the messages. Also ask @Curr Avonwhere he gets his gear from? Probably all those green shoots he’s seeing! Hopefully it will be lively. I’ll tune in after hours! Edited March 5 by REDOXO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 In a way manning is stuck in a vortex atm. Play half decent = he's unlikely to get credit because most of that comes from an idea implemented pre him. No matter what he does there he isn't getting credit All the worst stuff, such as winning it in midfield but declining the option to counter multiple times, literally turning back to give it to a defender behind their attackers. Inviting their attackers to press then giving it away. All in the name of fake control, that's on him!! Is that fair? Probably not, but it's still a reality he's going to find difficult to overcome. .......... Truthfully, those loses happen, can't win every game. It was a half decent performance. At times, we got the city we know is in there, but it's nothing to do with his footprint, or his ideological style. Ipswich basically showed us how it's done. all options on the table! short, long, ground, air, to feet, in behind. They had all options at all times. And as soon as burns came on they simply added that weapon. It was a relentless pursuit of goals. both games v us; they had always felt there to be had, but that is because they are really going for it I don't think they've been that good in this game ,but it is that purpose that drove them to win the game. ..... Tonight showed we play our best when a team believes their best beats ours. According, swansea is probably huge. It's on him to show he's evolved and learning. Is that fair? Probably not but that's the reality he is facing! Patience is going to be thin; he simply has to read the room and know patient fake control football is going to turn the crowd very quickly. Which takes me back to the top of my post, in a way he can't win. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, The turtle said: In a way manning is stuck in a vortex atm. Play half decent = he's unlikely to get credit because most of that comes from an idea implemented pre him. No matter what he does there he isn't getting credit All the worst stuff, such as winning it in midfield but declining the option to counter multiple times, literally turning back to give it to a defender behind their attackers. Inviting their attackers to press then giving it away. All in the name of fake control, that's on him!! Is that fair? Probably not, but it's still a reality he's going to find difficult to overcome. .......... Truthfully, those loses happen, can't win every game. It was a half decent performance. At times, we got the city we know is in there, but it's nothing to do with his footprint, or his ideological style. Ipswich basically showed us how it's done. all options on the table! short, long, ground, air, to feet, in behind. They had all options at all times. And as soon as burns came on they simply added that weapon. It was a relentless pursuit of goals. both games v us; they had always felt there to be had, but that is because they are really going for it I don't think they've been that good in this game ,but it is that purpose that drove them to win the game. ..... Tonight showed we play our best when a team believes their best beats ours. According, swansea is probably huge. It's on him to show he's evolved and learning. Is that fair? Probably not but that's the reality he is facing! Patience is going to be thin; he simply has to read the room and know patient fake control football is going to turn the crowd very quickly. Which takes me back to the top of my post, in a way he can't win. I’m not slating him tonight, but I ain’t giving him credit either. If he was a player, he’d be getting a 6/10, nothing more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Join them live if you don’t have a job! Or in the pension line at the Post Office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I’m not slating him tonight, but I ain’t giving him credit either. If he was a player, he’d be getting a 6/10, nothing more. Sunderland now lost 5 in a row so giving it a good go as well. Sure their fans not impressed with their hiring and firing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, OddBallJim said: 4 defeats on the bounce increases pressure, regardless of performance. We are sleep walking towards the drop zone. I'd say wide eyed and lemming like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 27 minutes ago, The turtle said: In a way manning is stuck in a vortex atm. Play half decent = he's unlikely to get credit because most of that comes from an idea implemented pre him. No matter what he does there he isn't getting credit All the worst stuff, such as winning it in midfield but declining the option to counter multiple times, literally turning back to give it to a defender behind their attackers. Inviting their attackers to press then giving it away. All in the name of fake control, that's on him!! Is that fair? Probably not, but it's still a reality he's going to find difficult to overcome. .......... Truthfully, those loses happen, can't win every game. It was a half decent performance. At times, we got the city we know is in there, but it's nothing to do with his footprint, or his ideological style. Ipswich basically showed us how it's done. all options on the table! short, long, ground, air, to feet, in behind. They had all options at all times. And as soon as burns came on they simply added that weapon. It was a relentless pursuit of goals. both games v us; they had always felt there to be had, but that is because they are really going for it I don't think they've been that good in this game ,but it is that purpose that drove them to win the game. ..... Tonight showed we play our best when a team believes their best beats ours. According, swansea is probably huge. It's on him to show he's evolved and learning. Is that fair? Probably not but that's the reality he is facing! Patience is going to be thin; he simply has to read the room and know patient fake control football is going to turn the crowd very quickly. Which takes me back to the top of my post, in a way he can't win. In more ways than one, unfortunately on a hiding to nothing and all the other cliches you can think of, frustrating because Wells scores and Mehmeti's shot goes in and who knows what could have happened, but some things never change, as usual it's not us equalising twice after being behind and getting a late winner, how much of that was Manning's fault who knows, we were a couple of minutes away from getting a result that would have lifted all our spirits but somehow most of us knew that somehow that wasn't the way it would turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Just to be clear, it's @Davefevs on the pod, not one of the other 42,784 Daves that go on City pods? And is that rude Ian fellow on again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 6 Author Report Share Posted March 6 50 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Just to be clear, it's @Davefevs on the pod, not one of the other 42,784 Daves that go on City pods? And is that rude Ian fellow on again? Yes x 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppy Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 On a light hearted note i'd love @Curr Avon aka Mark Tovey to quote a bit of ed Sheeran when he does his 30 second summary perhaps first half "I was in love with the shape of city but in the second half it was bad habits lead to late goals conceded away" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 18 minutes ago, Coppy said: On a light hearted note i'd love @Curr Avon aka Mark Tovey to quote a bit of ed Sheeran when he does his 30 second summary perhaps first half "I was in love with the shape of city but in the second half it was bad habits lead to late goals conceded away" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: I’m not slating him tonight, but I ain’t giving him credit either. If he was a player, he’d be getting a 6/10, nothing more. We didn’t play that well, it should have been 4 or 5 by the end way they battered us after the second goal. It was better but let’s not kid ourselves it was good. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 Ease the pressure? No, not really, if anything it’s worse as the losing run continues and Swansea becomes a huge game. Granted it was an improvement over the previous three games. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 23 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said: We didn’t play that well, it should have been 4 or 5 by the end way they battered us after the second goal. It was better but let’s not kid ourselves it was good. We scored twice & hit the woodwork twice. I’m completely agnostic on Manning but it was a better display than I expected. Think he missed a trick at 2-2 but our ridiculous lack of squad depth is killing us, can’t be another side in the division bar Rotherham who regularly fail to fill the bench. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: We scored twice & hit the woodwork twice. I’m completely agnostic on Manning but it was a better display than I expected. Think he missed a trick at 2-2 but our ridiculous lack of squad depth is killing us, can’t be another side in the division bar Rotherham who regularly fail to fill the bench. Lack of depth of excessive injuries? Bit of both probably. If you look at Ipswich they've had very few relative to us. Bit of an outlier perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Lack of depth of excessive injuries? Bit of both probably. If you look at Ipswich they've had very few relative to us. Bit of an outlier perhaps More the former though a bit of both. Realistically we are missing 4 players through injury as Atkinson hasn’t played for a year now & Benarous for 2. Lots of sides have broadly similar numbers out to that but last night’s bench of 7 (!) had 3 players who have never started a Championship game on it & another one in Roberts who has started 4, plus King. Edited March 6 by GrahamC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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