Davefevs Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Del Bussey Ellie Jones @petehinton in the studio 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted March 25 Admin Report Share Posted March 25 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_bristol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 They are certainly not holding back I hope SL is listening to see what the fans really think 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Gwaaan @petehinton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted March 25 Admin Report Share Posted March 25 Presenter: "I think you only need 3 maybe 4 players and this team could really go places" re: going to Manning style football. However, with departures that still leaves us with a paper thin squad. And for those 3 or 4 players to turn us into a team that can dominate opponents in possession terms they need to be best in division type players and those aren't "100 games in League One" types, they cost £5m plus, each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) Keep hearing here not just on here or this show.."Big physical 9". Yes and no. IMO. Does that fit "Manning ball"? Seems a bit mix and match.. 3 penalties and 1 own goal in our favour under Manning..what was the comparable under NP? Edited March 25 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Del is a lovely guy and usually very calm in his opinions. Good balance between him and Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Dels a great guy but repeating the Tinnion claim that’s been debunked of McKenna only winning 2 in 12 is a big credibility misstep 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Just checked. Under NP- 15 goals, 14 games. Fleming- 1 goal, 1 game. Manning- 28 goals, 23 games BUT 3 penalties and 1 own goal. Weighted for that 24 from 23..about the same if not proportionally worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted March 25 Admin Report Share Posted March 25 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Just checked. Under NP- 15 goals, 14 games. Fleming- 1 goal, 1 game. Manning- 28 goals, 23 games BUT 3 penalties and 1 own goal. Weighted for that 24 from 23..about the same if not proportionally worse. Isn't goals conceded worse despite club apologists claiming Liam has tightened us up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Ian M said: Isn't goals conceded worse despite club apologists claiming Liam has tightened us up? I reckon it probably is. I haven't honed in on that side but yes most likely. Underlying numbers certainly seem to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ian M said: Isn't goals conceded worse despite club apologists claiming Liam has tightened us up? Technically, but imo not meaningfully. Pearson was on 16 in 15 this season; 1.14 p/g Manning on 29 in 23; 1.26 p/g It's really a very small difference considering you can't actually score part of a goal. General shots against and shots on target against are basically the same. xG against is actually slightly better under Manning. Edit: also, it is deteriorating under Manning. Over his first few games it did appear that we'd tightened up a little at the back, but it's gone downhill in recent games. Edited March 25 by ExiledAjax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted March 25 Admin Report Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Technically, but imo not meaningfully. Pearson was on 16 in 15 this season; 1.14 p/g Manning on 29 in 26; 1.26 p/g It's really a very small difference considering you can't actually score part of a goal. General shots against and shots on target against are basically the same. xG against is actually slightly better under Manning. But certainly isn't "tightened us up defensively" by any metric. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Technically, but imo not meaningfully. Pearson was on 16 in 15 this season; 1.14 p/g Manning on 29 in 26; 1.26 p/g It's really a very small difference considering you can't actually score part of a goal. General shots against and shots on target against are basically the same. xG against is actually slightly better under Manning. Edit: also, it is deteriorating under Manning. Over his first few games it did appear that we'd tightened up a little at the back, but it's gone downhill in recent games. It has been 23 games in the League, are we measuring in all competitions or? That was my initial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: It has been 23 games in the League, are we measuring in all competitions or? That was my initial. Yes it is. But it's still 1.26 p/g. I was looking at the goals for column for my 26 3 minutes ago, Ian M said: But certainly isn't "tightened us up defensively" by any metric. Quite. Edited March 25 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 16 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Dels a great guy but repeating the Tinnion claim that’s been debunked of McKenna only winning 2 in 12 is a big credibility misstep Is it ? Do you check every stat you are told? I think it’s fair to assume when someone in Tinnion’s position gives a stat it’s correct 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh II Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Is it ? Do you check every stat you are told? I think it’s fair to assume when someone in Tinnion’s position gives a stat it’s correct I'd agree, however it's Tinnion, so it's unlikely to be correct either innocently through his own misunderstanding or him manipulating. It's probably more likely the first, though. Edited March 25 by Randy Marsh II 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 NP 16 goals, 14 games Fleming 0 goals, 1 game Manning 29 goals, 23 games. In respect of penalties and own goals conceded. The Dickie one was ridiculous and self-inflicted v Watford btw. 5 penalties conceded, 2 own goals. Of those 5 penalties, 4 were converted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Is it ? Do you check every stat you are told? I think it’s fair to assume when someone in Tinnion’s position gives a stat it’s correct When people in "Tinnion's position" generally give out stats I would tend to agree but when TINNION gives out a stat I wouldn't believe a word of it without checking. I mean he told us we beat Southampton 3-0, must be right.............. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Is it ? Do you check every stat you are told? I think it’s fair to assume when someone in Tinnion’s position gives a stat it’s correct Well when… - James Piercy community noted it - It was said on here as being false and - It’s Tinnion who is a known bullshitter Then I’d say yeah, you do check before repeating it as fact! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 1 minute ago, Silvio Dante said: Well when… - James Piercy community noted it - It was said on here as being false and - It’s Tinnion who is a known bullshitter Then I’d say yeah, you do check before repeating it as fact! As far as I know, Del doesn’t post on here so not sure of the relevance. Maybe he didn’t read Piercy’s bit. Agreed that Tinnion is either a bullshiter or stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 21 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Just checked. Under NP- 15 goals, 14 games. Fleming- 1 goal, 1 game. Manning- 28 goals, 23 games BUT 3 penalties and 1 own goal. Weighted for that 24 from 23..about the same if not proportionally worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 25 Author Report Share Posted March 25 Well, I got my say! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Ellie Jones is talking sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Is there a link for the catch up version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Is there a link for the catch up version? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_bristol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Will definitely check this out if @petehinton was on sounds like a decent episode. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow Red Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 That was miserable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Having to discuss City being a shambles again for the first time since darling Stan decided to leave me and up sticks to the south of France 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: Having to discuss City being a shambles again for the first time since darling Stan decided to leave me and up sticks to the south of France Good robust discussion Pete. Nice jumper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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