Major Isewater Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 11 minutes ago, chinapig said: @Major Isewaterbeat me to it dammit! Be original or be quick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Chessels Chick said: Here you go! https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/city-announce-retained-list-2023-24/ https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/bristol-city-release-midfielder-matty-9278607 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORANGE500 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, petehinton said: I absolutely loved Marv. But he was incredible for a season (if that?). What a season it was mind, but for consistency and longevity it has to be Matty for me. For those of us with longer memories Gary Shelton was better than both of them so was the now much lambasted(unjustified imo) Brian Tinnion. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 In a season's time we will be bemoaning the lack of experience. TGH doesn't seem to be in favour. Hope they have a more creative midfielder and defensive midfielder they're looking at. All it takes is Williams to not sign or get another injury and the aggressiveness will be gone. Bird isn't super creative but keeps the ball moving and we all know we will get energy from Knight but I don't see much creative play coming from that part of the pitch. My guess is James will go to Coventry as they've just let Kelly leave and he had a good season there before. Wish him the best of luck, underrated player for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I never understood this Hartley thing. What was so good about him? I'm with you on this, one of the most over rated players we had. A fading star by the time he joined us, only played around 40 games? And was subbed on/off in half those if I remember correctly! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Im not shocked the club has let James go but I feel it's a big mistake. Doesn't sound as if Williams is nailed on to stay either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtongreight Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 21 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: This suggests to me it’s imminent: Is that a halo above his head ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jobi said: Bit suprised people haven’t mentioned Neil Kilkenny I thought about pointing that out .... (Sorry @Simon79 - I just saw your post ) (And @chinapig!! And anyone else I've missed.) Edited May 11 by Sleepy1968 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yeah, Manning complementary, when played King as you say at CB in extremis iirc. I've a fair idea who made this call- no concrete proof of course but a fair idea. James I'd have (wages permitting) offered a 2 year deal, perhaps in Year 2 he would have morphed into the elder statesman role that King had while other midfielders started to approach the start of their peak years. This feels a mistake by the hierarchy..a certain Technikul Directur. Jon Lansdown alienates the fans with his mere presence, Tinnion with his lack of professionalism and proclamations, decisions- what a team!! Pops, by definition they are our very own 'A' Team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Shauntaylor85 said: I never understood this Hartley thing. What was so good about him? Were you missing that season ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Typical of Bristol City Analysis. Seems to think King, James, Weimann on high wages. How does that figure given that one resigned and two joined as we were entering austerity. Plus as non Parachute Championship clubs in particular were emerging blinking into the light post Covid. Even if it did, what they were on isn't relevant. I think King and Weinmann want to go back home, but I'd have hoped we made a stab at keeping James. We've obviously gone Williams over James though, presumably based on age alone. And nothing to do with him having more gravitas than anyone at the club. Edited May 11 by Sleepy1968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, Big C said: I would imagine that they are confident Williams will sign if they are releasing James or is that just wishful thinking? That's what I thought. Flawed thinking on their part. Strengthens Williams's hand by making him the exclusive player under consideration, and gives him an offer on the table if he can't do better elsewhere. If he signs in the next couple of weeks, it'll be because we've panicked and made him an offer too good to refuse. Edited May 11 by Sleepy1968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: They’re trying to reach a destination that they’ve never been to, without anyone who has a map If they had one they'd be reading it upside down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobi Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 26 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said: I thought about pointing that out .... (Sorry @Simon79 - I just saw your post ) (And @chinapig!! And anyone else I've missed.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Can see us selling Tommy if he hasn’t signed by start of pre-season. Our replacement for Williams should he not re-sign should be Brannagan from Oxford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Sad to see James go but not at all surprised. To re-sign him, I’d imagine it would have to be on significantly reduced terms and even if he agreed to that, I doubt it would be cheap. I think the bigger loss is potentially the collective of King, James, Weimann and Williams if he goes - that’s a massive worry for me. Hopefully their professionalism etc has rubbed off on the younger players. Big summer ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) About 25 posts mentioning centre midfielders and not a single mention of Marlon Pack. 6 years of excellent service. 4 years in the championship. 250 games. Helping us to our highest champ finish aside from the playoff year in nearly half a century. Consistent performances year in year out. Never injured. Leadership on the pitch. One of the best passing ranges we’ve ever seen play for us. Hartley had 1 season and about 8 good games. Marv was brilliant in that first season but then year on year gradually tailed off. James has had 3 years, the first year of which he was actually quite poor but has been good since Xmas 22 and for the last 18 months. If I was to take any one of those 4 in their peak years I’d have Pack every day of the week. The disrespect!! Maaaaann! Unbelievable. Edited May 11 by Harry 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Typical of Bristol City Analysis. Seems to think King, James, Weimann on high wages. How does that figure given that one resigned and two joined as we were entering austerity. Plus as non Parachute Championship clubs in particular were emerging blinking into the light post Covid. Pops. He is very correct. James was the biggest earner. By a distance. Weimann, even though on revised terms, was still one of the top 3 earners. King would have been lower, agreed. You say they were signed during the austerity period. True. But for us, this meant going with a smaller squad thus enabling us to pay the likes of James, Weimann and Wells the bigger bucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Nothing to dislike about James - good solid experienced player, excellent pro., but on high wages and it's really not unusual for players of his age either to be released or want a final, longer contract elsewhere. So while I'm (a bit) disappointed he's gone whether the decision came from him or the club I understand it and afaic we appreciate what he's done for City and move on with no regrets. It's how we replace him, and strengthen elsewhere, that counts now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, ORANGE500 said: For those of us with longer memories Gary Shelton was better than both of them so was the now much lambasted(unjustified imo) Brian Tinnion. Tinnion barely played above league one standard, nowhere near. 7 minutes ago, Harry said: About 25 posts mentioning centre midfielders and not a single mention of Marlon Pack. 6 years of excellent service. 4 years in the championship. 250 games. Helping us to our highest champ finish aside from the playoff year in nearly half a century. Consistent performances year in year out. Never injured. Leadership on the pitch. Hartley had 1 season and about 8 good games. Marv was brilliant in that first season but then year on year gradually tailed off. James has had 3 years, the first year of which he was actually quite poor but has been good since Xmas 22 and for the last 18 months. If I was to take any one of those 4 in their peak years I’d have Pack every day of the week. The disrespect!! Maaaaann! Unbelievable. You've made an excellent case for him being an unremarkable mid championship midfielder, I'll give you that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 2 minutes ago, Harry said: Pops. He is very correct. James was the biggest earner. By a distance. Weimann, even though on revised terms, was still one of the top 3 earners. King would have been lower, agreed. You say they were signed during the austerity period. True. But for us, this meant going with a smaller squad thus enabling us to pay the likes of James, Weimann and Wells the bigger bucks. The upshot of which might be to pay Twine however much he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 (edited) Haven’t read it all, but James I wouldn’t have mind keeping, thought we were always a better side with him in it. But understandable why they let him go. Rare the 3 players leaving go with so much respect. Wish them all well. Time for others to step up because they leave a big hole off the pitch to fill Edited May 11 by Red Army 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Just now, chinapig said: The upshot of which might be to pay Twine however much he wants. I don't think that's the issue. If he's on even double the rumours I've seen, he'll be within budget . The issue is what Burnley want for him . Failing a miracle Burnley are down , they are unlikely to be doing a firesale , but we can hope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: Haven’t read it all, but James I wouldn’t have mind keeping, thought we were always a better side with him in it. But understandable why they let him go. Rare the 3 players leaving go with so much respect. Wish them all well. Time for others to step up because they leave a big hole off the pitch to fill Time for the Technical Director to step up and present Liam with better options for the money they were earning. Simple as that, no excuses. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Just now, Numero Uno said: Time for the Technical Director to step up and present Liam with better options for the money they were earning. Simple as that, no excuses. Yep totally agree, just want some players to step up. I can’t keep thinking posting about Tinnion. Majority of us know he’s a fraud. I’m putting my energy into the team from now on. I can’t change **** all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 16 minutes ago, IAmNick said: You've made an excellent case for him being an unremarkable mid championship midfielder, I'll give you that Which is exactly what we are talking about. Because we haven’t been any higher in 50 years. So, as a (mostly) mid table champ club over the last 15 years or so, for me he’s the best and most consistent one we’ve had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobi Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 4 minutes ago, Harry said: Which is exactly what we are talking about. Because we haven’t been any higher in 50 years. So, as a (mostly) mid table champ club over the last 15 years or so, for me he’s the best and most consistent one we’ve had. Wade Elliott right up there for me - shorter time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elruliri Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 Could Isaac Hayden be someone we might look to bring in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 8 minutes ago, Harry said: Which is exactly what we are talking about. Because we haven’t been any higher in 50 years. So, as a (mostly) mid table champ club over the last 15 years or so, for me he’s the best and most consistent one we’ve had. Yeah as soon as I wrote that I realised i was unintentionally agreeing with you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted May 11 Report Share Posted May 11 as for james and king, im not so sure they would have been massive earners, wells and weimann both took pay cuts to stay on,as did baker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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