Davefevs Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 8 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: Posted this 8th November - So literally day one! Haven’t listened yet I kind of hope that it’s the first signs of the last line below coming through! I didn’t realise it was literally “day one”! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Wow really, that bad?? Benarous I can understand moreso but Bell? Perhaps a 6 month loan, with an option to extend it make permanent could be one avenue if Bell and Benarous still out for months to come. We just feel a bit light, not so much on Manning but while the recruitment has been good post 2021 and good value I just have these nagging doubts about an overall cohesive strategy. Bell will be back for preseason, pretty sure he’s been training already! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 So we are looking at 5 new signings for next season overall then (if you include Bird and Stokes), a winger, striker and this whole 10 nonsense (can we just call it a KDB/Odegaard type) that’s what we need, an attacking midfielder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Wow really, that bad?? Benarous I can understand moreso but Bell? Perhaps a 6 month loan, with an option to extend it make permanent could be one avenue if Bell and Benarous still out for months to come. We just feel a bit light, not so much on Manning but while the recruitment has been good post 2021 and good value I just have these nagging doubts about an overall cohesive strategy. Bell was a “very serious” hamstring tear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 19 minutes ago, Tim Monaghan said: I keep saying it. It’s going to be a bigger summer than people think. I’ll save you all the bother >> Go on……what have you heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 Just now, Rob k said: Go on……what have you heard? 50% off BBQs at B&Q throughout the month of July 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 Just now, petehinton said: 50% off BBQs at B&Q throughout the month of July OTIB would berate that for not getting the business done early enough in the window 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, marcofisher said: OTIB would berate that for not getting the business done early enough in the window Not me. I’d berate it for making the start of the season boring. Need some deadline day rush endorphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, petehinton said: Not me. I’d berate it for making the start of the season boring. Need some deadline day rush endorphins. I could do without the thrills, my serotonin is all but burnt up from the last 10 years of watching city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I purposely refrained from going there! +++++ Did he mention Twine tonight, don’t recall it??? No. “We need a 10, we need a 9, and we need a winger” which puts the ball very much in the club’s court. Edited May 13 by Malago 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I was ‘reading between the lines’ Dave. I read it as the door was open but that’s it up to Andy King and that a guy with all his success and experience within the game would be a useful asset. He also said that King had been coaching the academy players whilst doing his badges and that he was very nervous about running the session. Obviously King isn’t quite ready in coaching terms yet but he has time on his hands and I’d be surprised if he doesn’t join Mannings team at some point. I thought he was referring to James being nervous...not King Edited May 13 by Tomo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, petehinton said: Bell was a “very serious” hamstring tear He had the same injury and the same "repair" as Rob Atkinson, a week apart. They were both told they would be ready for pre season and that it's a proven operation that has a great success rate. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted May 13 Report Share Posted May 13 5 hours ago, petehinton said: FWIW there’s also no doubt in my mind Manning would be managing in the championship right now, if we hadn’t have come in for him. But that’s a moot point. I am curious. Are you suggesting that Manning ‘would be managing in the Championship right now’ *EVEN* had we not come in for him or, conversely, that he would not have been had we not come in for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 20 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I am curious. Are you suggesting that Manning ‘would be managing in the Championship right now’ *EVEN* had we not come in for him or, conversely, that he would not have been had we not come in for him? Suspect Swansea would’ve taken him when they sacked Duff. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Suspect Swansea would’ve taken him when they sacked Duff. Which I still believe would have been the better fit for Manning to go there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shauntaylor85 Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 Genuinely tried to listen and I did fall asleep! Not joking! What minute did he talk about summer plans and the 3 targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 6 hours ago, Port Said Red said: He had the same injury and the same "repair" as Rob Atkinson, a week apart. They were both told they would be ready for pre season and that it's a proven operation that has a great success rate. I thought Atkinson had an ACL and Bell a serious hamstring injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 7 hours ago, Port Said Red said: He had the same injury and the same "repair" as Rob Atkinson, a week apart. They were both told they would be ready for pre season and that it's a proven operation that has a great success rate. That’s good news if so & a relief! Had heard otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 9 hours ago, Tomo said: I thought he was referring to James being nervous...not King He was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 25 minutes ago, Robbored said: I thought Atkinson had an ACL and Bell a serious hamstring injury? Atkinson did his hamstring during his recovery, just after (or whilst, I don't recall) making an appearance for the under 21s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Steve Watts said: Atkinson did his hamstring during his recovery, just after (or whilst, I don't recall) making an appearance for the under 21s. I didn’t know that Atkinson had played at all. I thought he was still undergoing rehab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 21 minutes ago, Robbored said: I didn’t know that Atkinson had played at all. I thought he was still undergoing rehab. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-defender-suffers-fresh-9097813 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roe Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 I found the interspersed clips of radio commentators shouting incredibly annoying 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Robbored said: I didn’t know that Atkinson had played at all. I thought he was still undergoing rehab. It was on the official site, always a good place to find out information.. 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 14 hours ago, Davefevs said: Ditto. I’m gonna sit here and see what happens, but first thoughts are we are recruiting for two set-ups 3421 - two no10s no wide men 4231 / 4213 - one no10 two wide men Need a winger, pace and power. +++++ Undoubtedly Owers hears things! Smart thing to do, doesn’t want to recruit himself into a hole and found out in october that the formation isn’t working. Helps that you can essentially switch between the two with just one sub. And to an extent we are relatively weak in real consistent quality on the wings. Sykes looked very good at the start of the year but didn’t finish the season all that well, Mehmeti is… Mehmeti and Bell is currently injured so we don’t know how he’ll come back. And either way that’s only 3 wingers (I don’t include cornick). Every other position we currently have at least 2 per, so it makes sense imo to go for another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 6 minutes ago, George Rs said: Smart thing to do, doesn’t want to recruit himself into a hole and found out in october that the formation isn’t working. Helps that you can essentially switch between the two with just one sub. And to an extent we are relatively weak in real consistent quality on the wings. Sykes looked very good at the start of the year but didn’t finish the season all that well, Mehmeti is… Mehmeti and Bell is currently injured so we don’t know how he’ll come back. And either way that’s only 3 wingers (I don’t include cornick). Every other position we currently have at least 2 per, so it makes sense imo to go for another. No consideration as to the cost of having that flexibility then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Rs Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No consideration as to the cost of having that flexibility then? Does it have to be extremely cost worthy? I’d argue we’ve been pretty flexible the last couple of years anyway. Sykes, Naismith, Mccrorie, Roberts, Gardener-Hickman and Pringy can all play a number of positions which allows us to have a smaller squad. But on the downside it means we can suffer setbacks a lot quicker if injuries build up. Very much a balancing act, one that I wouldn’t be able to do but I feel like it can be financially viable without breaking the bank. The question to ask i feel is which is better: Squad flexibility or Higher quality specialists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 26 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No consideration as to the cost of having that flexibility then? I do think we have been pretty flexible during games, nothing spectacular, but little tweaks here and there as the games roll on. We already have some players that can allow for that. I haven't heard the SOTC yet, when he talks about a winger, does he mean an out and out attacking player, or more of an alternative to Pring that plays more advanced but can cover back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 19 hours ago, Tim Monaghan said: I keep saying it. It’s going to be a bigger summer than people think. I’ll save you all the bother >> That could be taken one of two ways. It could if we are being positive mean some strong icing of the quite well done cake ie a bit more depth and proven/rising quality in key positions to build on a solid base. Or it could mean an overhaul, another revamp- with multiple ins and outs, thereby risking inevitably setting us back in respect of timeframes or even sending us backwards undoing hard won gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 14 Report Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I do think we have been pretty flexible during games, nothing spectacular, but little tweaks here and there as the games roll on. We already have some players that can allow for that. I haven't heard the SOTC yet, when he talks about a winger, does he mean an out and out attacking player, or more of an alternative to Pring that plays more advanced but can cover back? We have, it wasn’t a criticism of what has happened, more a “watch this space” in terms of what it means to squad size, balance, cost, etc. Ed Hadwin suggested a pacy winger to LM, LM replied using the term “powerful”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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