RedUn Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Shock! Horror! It can't be true! No! Two members share the same point of view and that point of view is not shared by '(Bo)RedUn'!! ← Two anonymities (at least) not only share the same point of view - on a limited range of topics - but also the same manner of expressing them, easily confirmed by skimming the archives. Now one of the aliases talks of credibility ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 My take - I was gutted when we lost Carey, Brown and Peacock and really think that we should of done more to try and keep them. I admit I'm not privy to the salary package details and, for Brown in particular, keeping these players was probably not possible. However, to get rid of some of your best players and then appoint a rookie manager, via a total stitch up, was a big gamble football wise. (but the easy option from a financial viewpoint). TBH I did not expect auto promotion this year and it's not going to happen. I'm still hopefull of the playoffs though, mainly due to the total lack of anything resembling quality in the divsion this year. ← Agree Carey and Brown, not at all bothered about Peacock, don't know what you mean by total stitch-up ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Two anomymities (at least) not only share the same point of view - on a limited range of topics - but also the same manner of expressing them, easily confirmed by skimming the archives. Now one of the aliases talks of credibility ... ← What's 'Anomymities'? Limited range of topics? Hmmm... let's see The Board The Management The Players Sorry, did I fail to mention the pies? Same manner of expressing them? Rationally? Articulately? Reasonably? Cogently? Same opinion=same person does it? Don't think that will stand up to rigorous inspection. Credibility? Yours has disappeared into the ether. Keep clutching at straws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave to the rhythm Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 " Now who do we know with previous for posting under a multiplicity of aliases ... ?" Mick, I have no idea if you are referring to me or not but, for the record, I only post on this forum using my name. I am not Magilla, Lenny Godber or any of the other people who don't use their proper names on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Credibility? Yours has disappeared into the ether. ← Bye bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dorito Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Agree Carey and Brown, not at all bothered about Peacock, don't know what you mean by total stitch-up ... ? ← By stitch up I mean Tins was the only person interviewed for the post. The interview took place within hours/days of Wilson leaving. As far as I am aware the post was not advertised and no external candidates were ever considered. As far as I am concerned Brians interview may as well have been 3 minutes long instead of 3 hours. The board knew who they were going to appoint as soon as Wilson left. (Probably before). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Bye bye. ← Thank God he's gone at last. Dorito, Don't mention 'stitch-up' and 'done-deal' when talking about Tinnion's appointment. Red'Un said it wasn't so it must be true because he's been a member on here for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 I can prove or disprove this by verifing the IP addresses of yours and Lenny's posts. Just give me a nudge and I'll check it out for you ← Please, once and for all put the BoRed'Un out of his misery. I notice that Lennie Godber and myself are active on the forum at the same time. Is this possible from the same computer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 By stitch up I mean Tins was the only person interviewed for the post. The interview took place within hours/days of Wilson leaving. As far as I am aware the post was not advertised and no external candidates were ever considered. As far as I am concerned Brians interview may as well have been 3 minutes long instead of 3 hours. The board knew who they were going to appoint as soon as Wilson left. (Probably before). ← Good. I'm glad the board are decisive and know what they want. I remember seeing an interview with Scott Davidson where he said that John Ward "was top of the list" and that it was always going to be him who got the job. Did you complain then? Brian becoming manager has been on the cards for some time now, and he has been working hard to prepare for the job. He was ready to take on the job, and the board were prepared to give him a go. He's had less than 15 games and done very little wrong, and yet people are slating him and the board. It seems to me like a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't for Tinnion and Lansdown. Some people have got it in for them and will find fault with everything they do. We struggled to score goals last season, so we signed two strikers, and switched to a more attacking style. Now people are complaining that we concede too many. Did you not notice how much of last season's superb defensive record was down to massed, desperate defending? The defence was always going to suffer with more men committed forward. Players left in the summer. And they have been replaced. Brown was always going to leave, he said as much, Peacock didn't do enough to deserve the contract he wanted, so he left, and Louis was a fully paid-up member of the cozy club, who didn't like the idea of having to perform well for his money - boo hoo. Someone also mentioned Joe Burnell - he desperately wanted to stay, but knew his first team chances would be limited at City. Of course the team isn't as good as it could be, and 15th position is in no way satisfactory, but let's give them a chance eh? Some people here seem to be attacking the management of the club simply for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Please, once and for all put the BoRed'Un out of his misery. I notice that Lennie Godber and myself are active on the forum at the same time. Is this possible from the same computer? ← Err...yes it is actually. Of course Tom will know for sure whether or not it really is the same computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple_monkey_dishwasher Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 So there we have it two anonymous aliases I'm curious as to what you mean by "anonymous alias" and why this is something to be suspicious of when 99.9% of forum posters do not reveal their real identity. This isn't my real name, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dorito Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Reply to BCFC_Dan Good. I'm glad the board are decisive and know what they want. I remember seeing an interview with Scott Davidson where he said that John Ward "was top of the list" and that it was always going to be him who got the job. Did you complain then? At no point in my post have I critised Brian in any way. I have just stated that his appointment was a stich up. I suppose you could look at it as decisive move by the board. Personally I would not have appointed Brian due his lack of experiance. Now he is the manager he has my full backing. I will say that at the moment the league position is simply not good enough. If we don't make the playoffs this year and make a bad start next year then I would probably support moving for new manager. Tinns said auto this year so he will live and die by his words. As I have already said I am hopefull that we will make the playoffs this year. I believe that we have the players to achieve this. Louis was a fully paid-up member of the cozy club, who didn't like the idea of having to perform well for his money - boo hoo. Totally out of order. If Louis had taken the deal and broken his leg on the first game of the season his pay would have been totally decimated through no fault of his own. He was a good servent who just wanted parity with the other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Louis was a fully paid-up member of the cozy club, who didn't like the idea of having to perform well for his money - boo hoo. Totally out of order. If Louis had taken the deal and broken his leg on the first game of the season his pay would have been totally decimated through no fault of his own. He was a good servent who just wanted parity with the other players. ← That's a good point and shouldn't have been forgotten. I don't think Carey leaving is down to who came in or a conspiracy of any sorts. He wanted more money because he felt he deservd it. The club can't offer any players the type of contracts that they are used to so have to offer a performance related scheme that was a risky option for him. He turned it down and went elsewhere. There can be a mulitude of reasons for this but do the ones that we present are pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedUn Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 By stitch up I mean Tins was the only person interviewed for the post. The interview took place within hours/days of Wilson leaving. As far as I am aware the post was not advertised and no external candidates were ever considered. As far as I am concerned Brians interview may as well have been 3 minutes long instead of 3 hours. The board knew who they were going to appoint as soon as Wilson left. (Probably before). ← I see - sounds like successor planning to me, a standard consideration in many a well-run business. More concerned about the successors to Carey and Brown myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dorito Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 successor planning to me, a standard consideration in many a well-run business. Successor planning or stitch up, different sides of same coin. It is irrelevant now though as you say. More concerned about the successors to Carey and Brown myself. Totally agree with you on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well a brief scan of the archives of both your posts bring up matches on more than 6 occasions. You are on Freeserve dial up so sometimes that can happen but some of the matches have posts that are a few minutes appart on the same IP which would lean to suggesting that the accounts are of the same person. The email addresses of both users are as near identical as you can get though, with just one character changed. Would suggest to me that the two accounts are used by one user. Its perfectly possible as long as you have two different types of web browser on the one PC. When the girlfriend is around my house she browses and posts using Internet Explorer while I use Mozillia Firefox ← The E-mail addresses of both users are as near identical. I think you'll find, Tom, it's more than one character that's different. Your suggestion that the two accounts are used by one user is wrong also. Come on. It's not that difficult is it? We're not the same person but our E-mail addresses are nearly identical so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zookeeper Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 The E-mail addresses of both users are as near identical. I think you'll find, Tom, it's more than one character that's different. Your suggestion that the two accounts are used by one user is wrong also. Come on. It's not that difficult is it? We're not the same person but our E-mail addresses are nearly identical so... ← ........ your lovers!!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest panelman Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well if Brian said so....Might have said it to look a little less silly. Carey was a senior professional (and more consistent than Tinnion,) at City, maybe some younger players might have listened or looked up to him as a player. Can't have that, Tinnions the Sheriff here. Carey would have been out regardless of how long was left on his contract. It was the first act of circling the wagons, Millen was act two. My sources openly tell me that BT was influential in brokering contracts for Carey and other youngsters many years ago, thus making him a darling in the boardroom, and, leaving the young 'uns a few thousand out of pocket. Brown didn't hang about did he? Burnell? Just too much resentment on past dealings I'm afraid. PS. I won't reveal my sources, thats for amateur journo's. ← I reckon Tinnion has had a problem with senior players, and his early insistance that Aniyansh & Harley got starts were a clear indication that he wanted the respect & would only get this from some senior players (who would call him gaffer) but much from those of the Academy ranks. Then when things went pair shaped Mr Lansdown calmed the waters & peace reigned ? For a while anyhow. Go on we love a good source story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGILLA Posted October 6, 2004 Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 Well, you tell me the n, why the secrecy - You've stated you don't know each other but now your trying to suggest your related or something?? Looking through the archive posts there is a few simlarities in posting style too. I'm not bothered but most of the evidence points at two alises one user. Just my observation from looking at the information provided infront of me. With regards to email, One ends @freeserve.co.uk one ends fsnet.co.uk That's the difference, the old freeserve format and the new format. I'll leave you to clear it up for everyone ← Oh dear. Has it really come to this. Lennie Godber and Magilla are not the same person. Lennie Godber and Magilla are related. Shock! Horror! Members of the same family using the forum using different aliases so no-one knows they're related? It's an outrage! Get the Thought Police! And members of the same family supporting the same football club! Should be a crime! What were they thinking? Lennie Godber and Magilla have similar opinions and points of view. But worse still! Members of the same family expressing similar points of view? It's disgusting!! Shouldn't be allowed!! Bring the 'Forum Elders' here at once! Lennie Godber and Magilla live 300 miles apart. So, sometimes Lennie Godber uses Magilla's PC when he's visiting him to post on the forum. Get a posse together! How dare they use the same PC to post on the forum!! Write to your MP. The 2012 Olympic bid is in tatters!! So RedUn, can you let me know the ID's of all the members of your friends and family as well so I can see who's agreeing with you in any particular topic? Is that OK? I look forward to your apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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