potbelly Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I thought Jolly looked as dangerous as scottie in his prime last night. Someone for Tins to find at last and defenders doubling up on him. Took his goal really well and looks like a great find. I also enjoyed the badge kissing as he ran towards the Williams to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 So far Goodfellow hasn't been so exciting to watch Murray in full flow,but then he's only played twice at Ashton Gate!.I also think that G'fellow has a bit more guile than Murray and can see more options when it come to passing.It remains to be seen how consistant he is. But as for the kissing of the club badge - cheeky git! He's not a Bristolian,nor has he been at the club long enough to show such strength of feeling.When he's played alot more games for City,settled in the area and wants to stay (like Tinnion)then I could believe that he a genuine affection for our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fct Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Maybe a tactical switch? Or the fact Jolly may have tired a bit? Whatever the reason, I noticed as soon as Chris Roberts came to the touchline ready to come on Jolly camer unning over ready to come off so it must have been pre-determined at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 the only logical reason i can think of is that danny wonted to rest goodfellow i heard people around me saying about danny doesnt know what he is doing taking tommy off well I'm positive that he tightened up just before half time he crashed to the floor and walked away in some discomfert and then just after the start of the second half he went in for a takle and hurt himself again it look to me that he was struggling but i have to give it to tommy he realy did work his ass off but well done danny good dit of sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fct Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yes, tommy hurt himself sliding for a tackle close to the dugout... i saw him wince and limp away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 But as for the kissing of the club badge - cheeky git! He's not a Bristolian,nor has he been at the club long enough to show such strength of feeling. So? He's obviously enjoying his football with city and know he's made the right choice coming here! I think its a good thing to see a player kissing the club badge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 and also with murray was there a reason why he was there last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fct Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Murray prefers watching the City obviously; still has great feeling for the club. And Matthews was there too by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 glad to hear matthews was there proves he still has a love for the club i honsetly think we should renew his contract I'm still sure that he will prove a good player for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I don't have a problem with DW making substitutions in a game like last nights. It was cold and thats when you get muscle injuries, so the Doc was probably replaced for treatment reasons (he went straight to the changing rooms). I thought Lita was very poor again, showing why he doesn't really deserve a start yet. Goodfellow impresses me, he actually passes the ball! anyhow, not vintage, but 3 points. thats what counts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Neo Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Jolly V Murray. Both score regularly Both very quick players 1 still playing out of position and not supplying any service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 But as for the kissing of the club badge - i guess he was kissing the badge to say thank you to bristol city for saving him from stokes reserves and tony pulis... but fair shout i don't mind either it's first game or his 500 if he shows love for the city badge he is top man with me, he got us 3 points last night the star oh but just imagine for city murray on the right and goodfellow on the left oh i can dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myoudale Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I thought Lita was very poor again, showing why he doesn't really deserve a start yet. agree on that one didnt produce much i think danny got this one spot on no starting him yet need to work on his game bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Murray prefers watching the City obviously; still has great feeling for the club. And Matthews was there too by all accounts. yeah they are all good mates murray/carey and matthews/peacock etc.. i bet they were out for a tipple to celebrate after and fair play to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cidergeorge Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 So far Goodfellow hasn't been so exciting to watch Murray in full flow,but then he's only played twice at Ashton Gate!.I also think that G'fellow has a bit more guile than Murray and can see more options when it come to passing.It remains to be seen how consistant he is. But as for the kissing of the club badge - cheeky git! He's not a Bristolian,nor has he been at the club long enough to show such strength of feeling.When he's played alot more games for City,settled in the area and wants to stay (like Tinnion)then I could believe that he a genuine affection for our club. He comes from a team that have passion though... Maybe he got confused cos he was wearing red & white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 So far Goodfellow hasn't been so exciting to watch Murray in full flow,but then he's only played twice at Ashton Gate!.I also think that G'fellow has a bit more guile than Murray and can see more options when it come to passing.It remains to be seen how consistant he is. But as for the kissing of the club badge - cheeky git! He's not a Bristolian,nor has he been at the club long enough to show such strength of feeling.When he's played alot more games for City,settled in the area and wants to stay (like Tinnion)then I could believe that he a genuine affection for our club. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 But as for the kissing of the club badge - cheeky git! He's not a Bristolian,nor has he been at the club long enough to show such strength of feeling.When he's played alot more games for City,settled in the area and wants to stay (like Tinnion)then I could believe that he a genuine affection for our club. Yeah, how dare he show passion for the club. He's only been here five minutes, so how can scoring winning goals for Bristol City mean anything to him yet? I'd much rather see him playing with a demeanour that suggests the club means nothing to him, at least until he gets the 'okay' from you. I think he should trot quietly back to the halfway line without uttering a sound or breaking a smile, until he receives the necessary paperwork from true Bristolians, letting him know he's been accepted into our elite world of all things Bristol. Anyway, Robbored, why should Tinnion be allowed to kiss the badge? To quote you directly, regarding Tins: "What ######es me off is all the adulation that he gets for staying at City for 10 years as if he did us all a favour. He stayed because he got no offers big enough to tempt him away." This is a blatant untruth, by the way, but one you regularly trot out as though it's fact. However, if a disloyal player like Tinnion can kiss the badge, according to your rules, then why not Goodfellow? One minute you say (incorrectly) that Tinnion is only here because he's had no better offers, the next you imply he wants to stay and has got a genuine affection for the club. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tompo Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yeah, how dare he show passion for the club. He's only been here five minutes, so how can scoring winning goals for Bristol City mean anything to him yet? I'd much rather see him playing with a demeanour that suggests the club means nothing to him, Just like Tony Thorpe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Just like Tony Thorpe? Well quite. I think, when Goodfellow scores next time, we should all celebrate as normal until we see him kissing the badge. At that point, we should all stop cheering and jumping around, fold our arms, shake our heads and tut, and make him walk back to the halfway line in stoney silence. At least until he learns his lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 So far Goodfellow hasn't been so exciting to watch Murray in full flow,but then he's only played twice at Ashton Gate!.I also think that G'fellow has a bit more guile than Murray and can see more options when it come to passing.It remains to be seen how consistant he is. But as for the kissing of the club badge - cheeky git! He's not a Bristolian,nor has he been at the club long enough to show such strength of feeling.When he's played alot more games for City,settled in the area and wants to stay (like Tinnion)then I could believe that he a genuine affection for our club. Perhaps you would prefer it if he ran up the pitch pulled off his shirt to reveal a Stoke shirt and kiss the badge on that then? Are you ever happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Yeah, how dare he show passion for the club. He's only been here five minutes, so how can scoring winning goals for Bristol City mean anything to him yet? I'd much rather see him playing with a demeanour that suggests the club means nothing to him, at least until he gets the 'okay' from you. I think he should trot quietly back to the halfway line without uttering a sound or breaking a smile, until he receives the necessary paperwork from true Bristolians, letting him know he's been accepted into our elite world of all things Bristol. Anyway, Robbored, why should Tinnion be allowed to kiss the badge? To quote you directly, regarding Tins: "What ######es me off is all the adulation that he gets for staying at City for 10 years as if he did us all a favour. He stayed because he got no offers big enough to tempt him away." This is a blatant untruth, by the way, but one you regularly trot out as though it's fact. However, if a disloyal player like Tinnion can kiss the badge, according to your rules, then why not Goodfellow? One minute you say (incorrectly) that Tinnion is only here because he's had no better offers, the next you imply he wants to stay and has got a genuine affection for the club. Which is it? fair shout top post goodfellow could come from the moon for all i care as long as he gives 100% when playing that is all that matters he is a class act and will get better, any player that pulls on a city shirt has the right to celebrate a goal no matter how long they have been here i'm glad he is showing passion for the club.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cider gliders Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 The kids only been here a few weeks, three goals in 4 games and they be pickin on him already! We would have kissed him an his shirt if we ad got hold of him last night! :Hmm, yeah that's really funny Tarquin.: Keep kissin that shirt Marc, you have earned it young un! Murray`s gone forget him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Anyway, Robbored, why should Tinnion be allowed to kiss the badge? To quote you directly, regarding Tins: "What ######es me off is all the adulation that he gets for staying at City for 10 years as if he did us all a favour. He stayed because he got no offers big enough to tempt him away." This is a blatant untruth, by the way, but one you regularly trot out as though it's fact. However, if a disloyal player like Tinnion can kiss the badge, according to your rules, then why not Goodfellow? One minute you say (incorrectly) that Tinnion is only here because he's had no better offers, the next you imply he wants to stay and has got a genuine affection for the club. Which is it? I can't recall ever seeing Tinnion kiss the City badge.....but if he ever has he's earned the right to simply thro' his long service at the club.I would say the same about Carey or any other Bristolian player like Hill,Docherty or Coles but not some Potteries immigrant whose been at City less than a month.He probably didn't know where Bristol was before January....He hasn't earned the right to kiss our badge yet. I bet that the first thing that Freezer does after each Saturday game is look for the Stoke result..... Whether Tinnion deserves the fans adulation or not is for staying at BCFC is another arguement altogether - and one which we've had before. I don't see the link as clearly as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newboy Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 So at which stage can Goodfellow join your exclusive 'how many games do you go to' club? What exactly is the criteria for: 1. A fan being a 'true' supporter? 2. A player being adopted by the fans and able to kiss the hallowed badge? Like it or not, BCFC is not an exclusive club for you and your mates who you deem worthy of joining the elite. This really does reek of playground 'you can't join our club' conversations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinnionForEngland Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Personally i think it's a disgrace anyone should be ANNOYED that a new player kisses the badge, i dont care who kisses it, it's our club, our city and our player, DISGRACE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFChris Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I'm just glad ive been supporting City for 14yrs as I am obviously a true City fan. What annoys me is seeing all the newbies and part timers pretending they are true supporters, they have only been to a couple of games, how dare they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I can't recall ever seeing Tinnion kiss the City badge.....but if he ever has he's earned the right to simply thro' his long service at the club.I would say the same about Carey or any other Bristolian player like Hill,Docherty or Coles but not some Potteries immigrant whose been at City less than a month.He probably didn't know where Bristol was before January....He hasn't earned the right to kiss our badge yet. I bet that the first thing that Freezer does after each Saturday game is look for the Stoke result..... Whether Tinnion deserves the fans adulation or not is for staying at BCFC is another arguement altogether - and one which we've had before. I don't see the link as clearly as you do. What a ludicrous argument. If this club is to move forwards, there will be new players appearing on the pitch and new supporters appearing in the stands over the coming years. If you are going to take this stance everytime a new face appears at the club, be it on the terraces or on the pitch, then you clearly do not want the club to be successful. You happily label fellow fans as 'part-timers' and new players as 'immigrants'. If that is your attitude and you are happy for Bristol City to be some cosy little club where you can sit an pontificate over how it's never been as good since the 70s, then that is your prerogative, but I, along with a fair few others, want this club to be as big and successful as possible, and accept that part of achieving that will mean bringing in players, attracting new fans and welcoming both with open arms. This 'we don't take kindly to strangers' attitude of yours is, frankly, ridiculous, and can only mean that you are happy for the club to stagnate, as it has been doing for too long. Goodfellow wears the shirt and, so far, he has done the shirt proud. If he wants to kiss the badge when he scores, then what is the problem? More to the point, what is the official cut-off point, after which 'badge kissing' is acceptable? The chairman recently released a statement, pointing out how he was not prepared to let Bristol City be some nice little parochial club. You, clearly, are quite happy for it to be exactly that and that is very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 What a ludicrous argument. If this club is to move forwards, there will be new players appearing on the pitch and new supporters appearing in the stands over the coming years. If you are going to take this stance everytime a new face appears at the club, be it on the terraces or on the pitch, then you clearly do not want the club to be successful. You happily label fellow fans as 'part-timers' and new players as 'immigrants'. If that is your attitude and you are happy for Bristol City to be some cosy little club where you can sit an pontificate over how it's never been as good since the 70s, then that is your prerogative, but I, along with a fair few others, want this club to be as big and successful as possible, and accept that part of achieving that will mean bringing in players, attracting new fans and welcoming both with open arms. This 'we don't take kindly to strangers' attitude of yours is, frankly, ridiculous, and can only mean that you are happy for the club to stagnate, as it has been doing for too long. Goodfellow wears the shirt and, so far, he has done the shirt proud. If he wants to kiss the badge when he scores, then what is the problem? More to the point, what is the official cut-off point, after which 'badge kissing' is acceptable? The chairman recently released a statement, pointing out how he was not prepared to let Bristol City be some nice little parochial club. You, clearly, are quite happy for it to be exactly that and that is very sad. Good Grief!! How on earth do you deduce such idea's from my statement regarding G'fellow kissing the club badge? I made no reference to not wanting success at the club,nor any reference to strangers at the club - you simply assume that from one sentence.If anything is ludicrous, thats it! Maybe I should expanded my objections a little more - Making a jesture like kissing the club badge should imho come from players who have the qualifications to do so.In simpler words, players to whom the club means more than just a handsome pay cheque.Players that I have already mentioned in an earlier post. When in comes from a bloke who been at the club less than a month its a shallow act which smacks of insincerity.Goodfellow was simply trying to impress the more impressionable fans - which it seems he's succesfully done. Theres no way that he could have any true affection for our club after such a short time and I think what he did was disingenuine.I hope he doesn't do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 How on earth do you deduce such idea's from my statement regarding G'fellow kissing the club badge? I made no reference to not wanting success at the club,nor any reference to strangers at the club - you simply assume that from one sentence.If anything is ludicrous, thats it! If you can't see how calling new fans 'part-timers' and new signings 'immigrants' might be an attitude that is less than helpful to the progress of this club, I'm not going to point it out again for you. Maybe I should expanded my objections a little more - Making a jesture like kissing the club badge should imho come from players who have the qualifications to do so.In simpler words, players to whom the club means more than just a handsome pay cheque.Players that I have already mentioned in an earlier post. Ohhh, so the club does mean more to Tinnion than a handsome pay cheque? I see. Sorry, I was getting confused, because earlier, you said that "he stayed because he got no offers big enough to tempt him away", which suggests that he is only here for the pay cheque. Can you see how I've got confused? Theres no way that he could have any true affection for our club after such a short time and I think what he did was disingenuine.I hope he doesn't do it again. I'm going to make a confession now: When I first started going to watch City at Ashton Gate as a lad, I celebrated goals with the same excitemenet as everyone around me. I now realise, thanks to Robbored, that I had no right to do that, and should have submitted my form, showing the number of games I'd attended, to my elders before throwing myself so whole-heartedly into wanting the club to win and be successful. There, I wasn't going to say anything but you forced it out of me. I feel embarrassed about my behaviour now I look back, and realise I did wrong. I just hope you can find it in you to forgive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuttonRed Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 When in comes from a bloke who been at the club less than a month its a shallow act which smacks of insincerity.Goodfellow was simply trying to impress the more impressionable fans - which it seems he's succesfully done. Theres no way that he could have any true affection for our club after such a short time and I think what he did was disingenuine.I hope he doesn't do it again. WHY??? Moving to BCFC for him must have been attractive for one reason or another. So how are you qualified to say he has no true affection for our club, he told you that did he? Or do we have to serve a probation period as fans, players etc. No-one is suggesting that he is or isn't going to die for the cause, but why shouldn't he kiss the badge. He is a professional footballer, and I'm certain he enjoys his job. He has just scored, AGAIN... for his new club and is in a highly charged, emotional situation. The vision of somebody kissing my clubs badge doesn't endear them to me, but it hardly incenses me!! TO BE SCEPTICAL IS ONE THING, TO BE CYNICAL IS QUITE ANOTHER!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThOmO Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Top Posting Edson, brought a smile to my face with your irony :Hmm, yeah that's really funny Tarquin.: :Hmm, yeah that's really funny Tarquin.: :Hmm, yeah that's really funny Tarquin.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 To me the City badge is a symbol of our club, a club which is very close to my heart. To see a newcomer with no affection for that club kiss the badge is to me ,frankly offensive.Its a ###### take,a mockery, a disgrace,an insult..G'fellow did not impress me with me with his empy gesture. His goal impressed me - but not his "celebration". That doesn't mean that I don't want him to well for City.If he continues to score and create goals then I'll be as happy as the next fan.But don't offend me with insincere gestures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edson Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 To me the City badge is a symbol of our club, a club which is very close to my heart. To see a newcomer with no affection for that club kiss the badge is to me ,frankly offensive.Its a ###### take,a mockery, a disgrace,an insult..G'fellow did not impress me with me with his empy gesture. His goal impressed me - but not his "celebration". That doesn't mean that I don't want him to well for City.If he continues to score and create goals then I'll be as happy as the next fan.But don't offend me with insincere gestures. I see. So, to recap, you love that badge and you will let people know when they're allowed to love it as much as you do. When is the list of fellow badge lovers issued? I can't wait to see if I'm on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cidergeorge Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 When MG's here after his contract's been renewed for the 3rd time, we're in the Prem because he's affected the goal difference (by being our top goal scorer for the 5th time) for our promotional season to the prem, he's changed his name to R Marc, he only drinks the juice of the apple and has Cidered/BCFC tattooed several times, would he be able to kiss the badge then? Maybe he just felt that welome by "us" (I use that term loosely 'cos I'll admit to not having been to a game that has had MG in it 'cos I live 200 miles away from AG) because he has done well since starting with us, and is already proving popular with some sections of the fans and whether "we've" never missed a game or whether "we've" only been to 1 game it shouldn't matter as long as we wear the name with pride. Or perhaps "we" would rather that the Millenium or Wembley had only had 20 City seats filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cidergeorge Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Sorry on the back of that, before you all go well you can't be a City spporter if you don't get to AG that much, well for all those that do live outside of Bristol, and I can only speak for myself, but I do get to quite a lot of away games in the North / NW of the country (not just Cup finals @ Millenium), so I know that from the same faces that I see every match that alot of City supporters are in the same boat as me, they're at every game at Prenton, Hillsborough, the Racecourse, Gigg Lane etc etc. Just cos we're not season ticket holders doesn't mean we can't support the greatest team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityboy Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 But don't offend me with insincere gestures. And how do you know, with absolute certainty, that his gesture was insincere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 To me the City badge is a symbol of our club, a club which is very close to my heart. To see a newcomer with no affection for that club kiss the badge is to me ,frankly offensive.Its a ###### take,a mockery, a disgrace,an insult..G'fellow did not impress me with me with his empy gesture. His goal impressed me - but not his "celebration". That doesn't mean that I don't want him to well for City.If he continues to score and create goals then I'll be as happy as the next fan.But don't offend me with insincere gestures. city players can't win not so long ago roberts got slated for his lack of celebrating against cardiff, yes ok he is a cardiff lad but he got stick for not celebrating as he is now a city player and should have shown more passion for the team, and now we see goodfellow show some passion and commitment to his new club by doing what i see a nice gesture kissing the clubs badge after he scores and he gets slated ????? some fans are just not satisfied it is not just about our club it comes down to these lads love of football and to play football is all they want to do and kissing a badge is down to celebrating the game and the team they are with at the time. now i love my football team and no matter how long you watch city or play for city everyone has to come in new and start from somewhere if i had my way i'd have citys 1976 team frozen in time and play every week, but it just ain't possible and i see we need new every so often, now this lad goodfellow has come in and scored in 4 out of 3 games and has shown he is happy here and likes the supporters and it seems for him if bristol city is love at first sight for him then LET HIM KISS THE BADGE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted January 29, 2004 Admin Share Posted January 29, 2004 I assume robbored doesn't believe in "love at first sight" then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I assume robbored doesn't believe in "love at first sight" then? it appears not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Exile Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Gordan Bennett ! (as we used to say).. He scored a goal. He kissed the badge. Hardly a hanging offense! I'm guessing, but assumed at the time it was a 'great to be here, I'm now committed to THIS club' type thing. I did not take it to be 'BCFC is now in my blood I'll stay here for ever' nor did it need to be. He's got adrenaline pumping through his body, having just scored a goal. What does he do? Acknowledge to his new fans his club. Surely a plus. Give the guy a break. Frankly, if he 'kisses the badge' another 20 times this season I will be delighted. Then again, I am only guessing, because I do not know what he thought. Others obviously do..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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