Guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The netting did not reach the front or back and one steward was hovering around; first game back in the championship with a big away following; set up or what :disapointed2se: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 The netting did not reach the front or back and one steward was hovering around; first game back in the championship with a big away following; set up or what :disapointed2se: Plus with 60 QPR naughty boys being escorted from the hole in the wall pub (near redcliffe)by police before the game, they knew dam well that segregation was in need of checking and the rightamount of stewards and police should have been in the EE, they knew what was coming from the QPR side,i seen the escort. So is a mistake by the security being blamed on the fans????? netting not right, no policeon a policed game and a handful of stewards, not great is it? and a lot different to the successful Brentford androtherham games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 . In response to requests from supporters, the Club have also now clarified that if a season ticket holder wishes to permanently move his or her season ticket seat, even to a different stand, then that will be possibleNice one, East End me up baby!I shall make a call monday, hope we can move over, the Williams has been dissapointing thus far, considering the last few years have been lively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaxbourton Red Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Nice one, East End me up baby!I shall make a call monday, hope we can move over, the Williams has been dissapointing thus far, considering the last few years have been lively.what about the rest of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 what about the rest of us? Sorry Flaxy, didnt realise you didnt have a season ticket fella?I cant see why people on the clubs database cant by tickets in there on a match by match basis. It sucks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Flaxbourton Red your a hooligan remember if you want to go in the east end.Now sit down and be quiet like a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Lad Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Flaxbourton Red your a hooligan remember if you want to go in the east end.Now sit down and be quiet like a good boy. I do sometimes wonder though if that is what the club actually think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 question is do the clubs security and the police not wanting us in there? lax in segregationwhen at other times it has been spot on?picture below show the job being done well, so what happened vs qpr?segregation, stewarding and police.vs brentfordvs cardiffvs forestvs roversvs torquay league 1 start of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Ciderhead, seeing as i wasnt at the qpr game, do you have any pics of the ee from that game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Ciderhead, seeing as i wasnt at the qpr game, do you have any pics of the ee from that game?I will have a look.Missiles being thrown?? hmmmmA appropriate measure could be a simple netting suspended from the roof allied to thirty metres of segregation. This netting would be a practical solution, along with banning offenders and would be less unsightly and obtrusive than the tunnel between the Williams stand and East End. The sterile areas on the graphics is larger than would be considered at most premiership clubs e.g Manchester Utd or Spurs but could be a reality at Ashton Gate.The large sterile area would be netted but could also be used to house flags on top of the netting. These flags would provide even more security as no fan would consider stepping on a thirty foot wide banner designed by fans and paid for by fellow fans. It would hardly be a Latin style end but City fans could create a feeling of their own identity by making that thirty metre gap a bit more colourful.Second pic down v Brentford & Torquay pic clearly shows what should have been in place V QPR by ko and expected. V Rotherham police were in place by 1.30pm. Blackpool, Colchester........its a few stewards and netting over virtually the entire sterile area fire regs permitting only. Fans can also donate flags to cover the netting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 cider head, we all know how easy it could be. Just looks like the club thought it would be a good idea to open the ee due to the price rises, now they actually don't want anyone in there and in my honest view i think they are trying to c**k it up.That or the police are trying to c**k it up, the club are paying the police for being in the ground tell them what to do and do the job proper.If you had a brickie come round you house to build a wall and it was all wonky you wouldnt pay him and make him do it proper.But it seems like the club are so under the police thumb its unreal, why cant they have some balls and stand up for the fans.I would give the two flags i made for the east end along with the other city flags i have if they wanted to make a sterile using flags etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 cider head, we all know how easy it could be. Just looks like the club thought it would be a good idea to open the ee due to the price rises, now they actually don't want anyone in there and in my honest view i think they are trying to c**k it up.That or the police are trying to c**k it up, the club are paying the police for being in the ground tell them what to do and do the job proper.If you had a brickie come round you house to build a wall and it was all wonky you wouldnt pay him and make him do it proper.But it seems like the club are so under the police thumb its unreal, why cant they have some balls and stand up for the fans.I would give the two flags i made for the east end along with the other city flags i have if they wanted to make a sterile using flags etc.yep i wish i was on 30k a year plus to solve the obvious.ROTHERHAM AT HOMEFOREST AT HOMEIf that worried put the fence back up as well and putpaint on it so you know who has jumped on it.not hard to work is it? this picture was designed way back beforepromotion for low away crowds in league 1 but can still be used by taking away a red block for big away followings.Again.. The sterile area on the above graphic is larger than would be considered at most premiership clubs e.g Manchester Utd or Spurs but could be a reality at Ashton Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 V Rotherham Police in stadium at 1.30pm not the case vs QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 I will not be sitting or standing for that matter in this stand but i am apppreciative of the efforts of those who are now within it something which Gary Johnson has remarked on and want it to be a success. Ashton Gate is a better place with the East End open and it benefits the team. For that to happen the club should be doing as much as possible to make that happen or as others put it- We support the continued opening of the East End, with access for fans, but not at any cost As far as i know Bristol City fc sold season tickets on the basis that there would be room for fans to pay on the day and bring friends and family there has been no thorough explantion of the course taken or even a simple sorry. Within this thread it states that stewarding was not at a level normally seen which along with the lack of policing for a policed match being also reffered to is a very serious allegation indeed. Any reasonable person would look at the above with concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 To help balance the argument, I've since learned that before kick off there was less stewards and police in the East End than before the Brentford game. Also, the segregation netting did not reach to the front and back of the stand, enabling people to run around it.Were the police in place as per the Brentford game before kick off and during the game?Because less Stewards, netting not in place, much bigger gate, far more away fans, somebody needs to ask some questions of exactly what was in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPER REDS Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Yes it does seem bad organisation forthe first game full house v QPR 700 in the E/e pictures show the netting to be inadequate hardly strecthing the full length,I thought the metal fenced would of been in place for the first game,we were told we now have a allocation of 1000 so no need to move the fencing each game which we have been told is a big expence,once done thats it,with the fence it can be steward and policed better,I ask you SL to have a look at this and give it another chance with a properly erected fence please,it was a advantage so far this season lets keep it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 Yes it does seem bad organisation forthe first game full house v QPR 700 in the E/e pictures show the netting to be inadequate hardly strecthing the full length,I thought the metal fenced would of been in place for the first game,we were told we now have a allocation of 1000 so no need to move the fencing each game which we have been told is a big expence,once done thats it,with the fence it can be steward and policed better,I ask you SL to have a look at this and give it another chance with a properly erected fence please,it was a advantage so far this season lets keep it that wayTo right, come on give it back to all fans........ Badger ...anybody fairs fair, and this club has certainly not been with our E.E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 The club pay money for policing inside the stadium, if it was not in place. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 The club pay money for policing inside the stadium, if it was not in place. Why?Hey mate the fans pay, the fans always pay; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 This is an absolute joke IMO. The powers that be should've followed Cardiff's model with what they've done at Ninian for a very similar dated stand behind the goal. They've managed to reclaim the 'heart' of their stadium through research, willingness and liaison at little cost. If they can do it, why can't we?Just out of interest, could somebody at the ST please clear up what actually is acceptable behaviour at a football match these days? I'm not being a smart alec or anything but it does seem that if people are being thrown out, or pinched, for swearing or standing then something is seriously wrong at the Gate IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frome Valley Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 For those of you in the East End v QPR. Where there any police in the stand before kick off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider army matt Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 For those of you in the East End v QPR. Where there any police in the stand before kick off?No just one or two stewards by the segregation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 No just one or two stewards by the segregation.Correct; by = near but not actually doing anything, like setting up a one man barricade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 This is an absolute joke IMO. The powers that be should've followed Cardiff's model with what they've done at Ninian for a very similar dated stand behind the goal. They've managed to reclaim the 'heart' of their stadium through research, willingness and liaison at little cost. If they can do it, why can't we?Just out of interest, could somebody at the ST please clear up what actually is acceptable behaviour at a football match these days? I'm not being a smart alec or anything but it does seem that if people are being thrown out, or pinched, for swearing or standing then something is seriously wrong at the Gate IMHO.The club i.e S.L has previously said its to much hassle the man needs to "come and join us" and see for himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 For those of you in the East End v QPR. Where there any police in the stand before kick off?i seen police arrive at 2.45pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 i seen police arrive at 2.45pmConsidering the QPR turn out and the police outside the ground that is not good planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 For those of you in the East End v QPR. Where there any police in the stand before kick off?1 steward in the first shot and the so called missiles were balloons.http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Skwat7nl4-Yhttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OspVks-Vwrk&...ted&search=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KN8b1El9v0Q&...ted&search=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mbO6aj1xjg0&...ted&search=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Skwat7nl4-Y&...ted&search=http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=h4puszxeQdw&...ted&search=qpr sidehttp://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YMyxrvR7TDY&...ted&search= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bringbacktherobin Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KN8b1El9v0Q&...ted&search=That video shows that there was no stewards and police.Nice c**k up by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider head Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KN8b1El9v0Q&...ted&search=That video shows that there was no stewards and police.Nice c**k up by the club.I can see just one steward (city side) at the back but this is no where near the stewarding we had vs brentford.And then people wonder why they don't want mobile phone cameras in football grounds.qpr 3.23pm seems in order now but little too late but still as you tube vidsshow that there was nowhere near the amount of police and stewards as in the3.23pm picture.the segregation is larger than at most other big game derbysand the prem.a week later vs scunthorpe this season, any champion pole volters out there?bigger gap, less crowd both sides but more stewards???scunthorpe side, looking at this picture there is more chance of problems comingfrom the williams stand that those in the city side of the EEcity side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 Are you watching/reading S.L ? GIVE IT BACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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