BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Robin1988 said: It hinges on the fact we have one win in that time, don't be intentionally ignorant. The point is that THUS FAR since Cotterill left, we are looking much more likely to stay up than if he were still here. That's backed up by the cold hard fact that we are getting more points per game than when he was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: I took it as reading he could not support the club while LJ was manager. Same as I would be if Hollowhead was appointed. Different league perhaps, but if this is the temporary final straw for a fan of 50 years it may say something at the way this appointment will be viewed more widely and the disillusionment it may cause. Either way the response I commented on, and purporting to speak on behalf of the majority, was vile. I think you're being overly-generous here. Even if he is saying he can't support the club whilst LJ is manager, that is massively different to not supporting the club if Holloway was appointed. Holloway is a legend and favourite of our rivals who has been less than complimentary about the club in the past. I don't know exactly how I'd react if he were ever appointed manager but certainly I can admire and respect anyone who felt the principled stance was not to support the manager in that context and hence stay away for the time he was there. LJ, on the other hand, is an ex-Bristol City player who has never said a bad word about the club, put personal feelings aside to remain on good terms with the club when his father was sacked and, whatever one thinks of his quality or performances, it's hard to dispute that he showed resilience in giving his all for the club when fans got on his back. I can see why people think he lacks experience for the role but there is absolutely no principle or honour on refusing so support him as a manager. Fair play to the guy for supporting City for fifty years but that doe not excuse him for a reaction that is graceless, petty, small-minded, short-sighted, intolerant and throwing his toys out of the pram about a decision that he doesn't like even though he and nobody else knows how it will play out. I completely respect and sympathise with the reasons why people may be unhappy at the appointment. But, for me, being unhappy at an appointment is one thing. Refusing to support the club because they give the job to an ex-player who showed commitment to the club for six years and has always been complimentary about us, and refusing to even wait and see how the appointment pans out before refusing to attend matches, is another thing entirely. And my view is it's a thoroughly shoddy attitude and tough to class it as 'support'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Robin1988 said: It hinges on the fact we have one win in that time, don't be intentionally ignorant. Over such a short space of time you'd be better judging with your eyes than stats you can't extrapolate. I do judge with my eyes, and if you do also, and think we look worse under JP than SC then I'd recommend a trip to the opticians! At this stage, being hard to beat is what will keep us in this league. And for the first time all season, we look hard to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 44 minutes ago, Shtanley said: This thread is comically depressing. You started it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, Lord Northski said: We are now in disbelief at the person they're about to appoint. Speak for yourself! I think there's plenty of people who are optimistic about it, who can see beyond the 'big name' nonsense. Plenty of 'big names' fail spectacularly in management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Fuber said: I for one thinks this makes sense, he has the mind set of winning games, lives locally, knows the club. Is having a yes man that bad...? Cotts wasn't, refused to use wages to full effect. It can't be any coincidence since Ashton came in we're suddenly making signings; having less of a reputation is better than having a bad one it seems. Didn't stop Howe from building a decent side at Bournemouth during either spell there. I for one will back him. Unpredictable game, yadda yadda yadda. He lives locally? Hell of a commute to Barnsley then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 LJ as next managers sound alright; no problem with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Running Man said: Oh dear, LJ in town for talks. Charlton is going to be my last City game if a deal is done, been going down the Gate since 1966. Sad day for me. No it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Great news if true. A perfect fit for the job. A hungry young manager and coach, as highly regarded as anyone in his age group, who knows the city, knows the club and knows the people. I couldn't be more pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: No it won't. Maybe not but I for one will be astounded , what a fuc***g joke appointment , cheap option , no ambition , I hope im proved wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider-manc Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'd be interested to know the names of those who actually applied for the job. I wonder if LJ applied, because if he didn't and we have made an approach then that doesn't say much for the original applicants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Great news if true. A perfect fit for the job. A hungry young manager and coach, as highly regarded as anyone in his age group, who knows the city, knows the club and knows the people. I couldn't be more pleased. What a pragmatic approach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin1988 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: I do judge with my eyes, and if you do also, and think we look worse under JP than SC then I'd recommend a trip to the opticians! At this stage, being hard to beat is what will keep us in this league. And for the first time all season, we look hard to beat. If we don't score goals, we will not stay up, all the 0-0s you like won't change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, wheatus59 said: Maybe not but I for one will be astounded , what a fuc***g joke appointment , cheap option , no ambition , I hope im proved wrong . Why do you think it's the cheap appointment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Running Man said: Oh dear, LJ in town for talks. Charlton is going to be my last City game if a deal is done, been going down the Gate since 1966. Sad day for me. Can we hold you to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Apart from this month, what has he done to even warrant an interview, let alone the job?! Barnsley are 12th in League One, before a few wins, they were right in the mire struggling to stay in the division below? IMO this is just a cheap experiment, and it's a massive experiment. I don't think there hasn't been more of important time for this club. To appoint a non proven manager with zero experience is a huge, huge risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Great news if true. A perfect fit for the job. A hungry young manager and coach, as highly regarded as anyone in his age group, who knows the city, knows the club and knows the people. I couldn't be more pleased. You see, if you don't mention the name Lee Johnson when you post, the person you just described sounds a perfect fit to me. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cswhitlock Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 OMG after reading this forum and topic today i wonder why an one would want to come here. what a bunch of twunts on here.....LJ could well be great but lets not let that get in the way....saw him play for us good ball player excellent pass on him but again far too many couldnt see past the fact his dad was the manger so he must be in the team because of that An integral part of the team that got 2 goals away from the premeir league. Barnsley unbeaten since 19th Dec but lets look past that and just see GJ's son she he will be shit.....FFS take your heads out of your ass and suck it up we aint Real Madrid Man city or even Birmingham we are Bristol City lower league underachievers for too long.....its no longer 1976 too we are in Div 2 not the prem looking for europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Why do you think it's the cheap appointment? Because LJ will be on 2 bob a week whereas a top manager with experience of this level will demand a lot more , you get what you pay for in my opinion , that's why we cant get top players in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Great news if true. A perfect fit for the job. A hungry young manager and coach, as highly regarded as anyone in his age group, who knows the city, knows the club and knows the people. I couldn't be more pleased. Don't forget he's someone who Brendan Rodgers praised strongly too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 24 minutes ago, j mizel said: Lee will come in and do well. Pemberton isn't a head coach. Nor were Moyes or Pearson. We wanted a canditate who could properly fulfil the role. LJ understands the Bristol City DNA, and he'll serve us well from the off. ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I personally don't see how this is a bad appointment? Has done wonders with the budgets given to him at two clubs, proven quality coach. Young and hungry for success, knows the club inside and out. Knocking him before he's had a chance to sign the paper is poor. See where we are this time next year before making judgement. Learnt that from the Cotterill appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepton red Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 41 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said: I’m really not fussed who the next manager is, what division we play in or where we play, Ive been through the ups and downs and I will follow Bristol City regardless. Its all part of the beautiful game just enjoy the ride which ever direction it takes us. There are far worst things going on in this world to get upset about. Yes you are correct regarding the priority of a football manager v world events. However, when people spend their hard earn the pennies following their team, and question the logic in appointing an ex player, who at the very least divided opinion, they have every right to voice their dissatisfaction. The FC bigged up the calibre of applicant, and we get an unproven L1 manager. I was not expecting Jose or Pep, but come on LJ???? i wish him well, but he really is taking a sip from a poisoned chalice. per Ardua ad Astra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, wheatus59 said: Because LJ will be on 2 bob a week whereas a top manager with experience of this level will demand a lot more , you get what you pay for in my opinion , that's why we cant get top players in . So if we give LJ a million quid a week you'd be happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted February 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lew-T said: Apart from this month, what has he done to even warrant an interview, let alone the job?! Barnsley are 12th in League One, before a few wins, they were right in the mire struggling to stay in the division below? IMO this is just a cheap experiment, and it's a massive experiment. I don't think there hasn't been more of important time for this club. To appoint a non proven manager with zero experience is a huge, huge risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 So all of this aside.. Whos fault is it, Lee Johnson or Liam Fontaine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Griffin said: So all of this aside.. Whos fault is it, Lee Johnson or Liam Fontaine? Marlon Pack's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheatus59 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Bristol Rob said: So if we give LJ a million quid a week you'd be happier. No , but id rather give an experienced manager double or treble what LJ will get . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robson Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 minute ago, wheatus59 said: No , but id rather give an experienced manager double or treble what LJ will get . How would you even know how much he's on?! Could be on a half decent wage from how well he did at Oldham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I like LJ and at the right time I could see it happening, I just think that this ain't it ! We've heard how amazing the list of candidates was , that we wouldn't believe the quality . Well for the first time in ages I was excited with the club being linked with Pearson,Monk, Moyes and the like. Experience , and connections both of which we really need in the next appointment. Young and hungry is great but if we were to push on, the only way I can see it happening is through a manager that has been there, done it and still has the mates to call on for a favour. If he gets the job, nothing changes, I will go on supporting as I have for years. But I really do think this could have been a statement moment , unless the list wasn't all that in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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