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2 hours ago, Bedminster said:

NP going was correct. He was never going to take us to the next level and he did a brilliant job here. Our mistake was appointing Manning. 
 

This weird narrative on here that the football was brilliant and NP was a god is laughable. 

He was getting what he could out of a limited squad with limited sometimes curtailed investment while reducing the wage bill from the eye watering £35m per annum under LJ and MA.

No other manager, available freely or who would come to us, has his squad building and infrastructure skills. He deserved a proper CEO (Alexander) to help support him, proper recruitment, and not Tinnion sticking his d*** in the pie.

As for the bit in bold - reread my post. Where have I said the football was brilliant. Sh** attempt deflection at best. Give me some real counterpoints otherwise why post.

Who do we get that's better that would work with these amateurs in these constraints like NP did.

15 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Snatch your hand off for that.

If we pick up 3 points this week that’s more than I currently expect.

Try this month.

3 hours ago, Grey Fox said:

None

It's not none though is it. Statistically.

Highest relegated point tally is Peterboro with 54.

5 minutes ago, petehinton said:

TGH was only allowed to happen when it came to light how serious McCrorie’s illness was, and even then it was a real plead for it to be allowed. 
 

Had McCrorie not been ill, TGH wouldn’t be here

Even worse recruitment then, as TGH was as good at RB as I am at Salsa dancing.

I like him, but his position sense and concentration need massive work across the pitch.

Just cant take Ian seriously when hes commenting complete bollocks.

Sure thing Ian - who said they had a plan when if Scott left? - Pearson.

Instead we loan in TGH - complete failure in recruitment - and that rests squarely at Tinnion's door.

"Didn't sort out the financial mess", **** me sideways.

15 minutes ago, West Hill Red said:

Mr Manning couldn't have picked a worse set of fans for his brand of football!

Is this a slight at Manning, or us?

15 minutes ago, johnbytheriver said:

Lets clear out players like j dasilva and kasey palmer after all they are only getting regular games for coventry.

 

Nothing wrong with Jay or Palmer technically.

The issue is we recruited under LJ period without looking to integrate them into any kind of system.

We wanted 'clubs in the bag'.

Said it before but it's become more apparent the issue was LJ and not MA for all his smarmy behaviour.

Unfortunately MA liked doing a deal - so couldn't just say 'No more'.

33 minutes ago, steveybadger said:

Lost the players trust? Well that’s not what James thinks in the article:

For all the conspiracy theories about lost dressing rooms and a disenchanted squad, as we understand that is abundantly not true.

edit -Apols previous post says much the same

The finger pointing and arguing amongst themselves says otherwise.

3 hours ago, Bedminster said:

Superb post. I hope you don’t get stick as you’ve dared to say you don’t like Saint Nigel. 

Oh look, another one.

26 minutes ago, Bedminster said:

What you going on about? 

You got crumbs in your beard mate. Try some deodorant aswell. 

And I'm not the first to notice.

No one claims NP was a saint. But he, in interviews, outlined what merits a manager should be based on.

One of those outlined parameters was that it was his job to find a system for 'these' players to get results.

Not his system. Not his 'framework' or 'processes'. The squad first.

Manning is 180 the opposite and he's losing the dressing room because of it.

We've gone from defending the players and taking the flack and responsibility under NP to blaming the players and not the process under Manning. It's no wonder we're now seeing soft performances.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/every-word-nigel-pearson-city-7970393?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Just see Niges post match from West Brom as a comparison. 'Our Players, Our Fans'

Compared to https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/liam-manning-bristol-city-cardiff-9138398

'I want, I want, I want', then 'they (the team) should feel x, y, z.

It's just terrible leadership. Leagues apart. Literally and in methodology with regards to squad culture.

2 hours ago, NickJ said:

Danny Wilson

Good manager, 48% win ratio for us. I personally felt pride watching his team from 2000-2004 which often had 5 Bristolians sometimes 7, playing attractive football.

Castigated for the play off disater, but it was one mistake and he was steadily building and improving each season.

Persuaded by Brian "trust me on Tins" Tinnion that Danny was a wrong un. What might have been.

 

Gary Johnson

Good manager, good apppointment.

Victim of his own nepotism which Lansdown should have stepped in and sorted but didn't, culminating in that incident at Plymouth.

 

Steve Coppell

The coup that never was. Allegedly realised the owner would be a meddler and left with his bags before even unpacking them.

 

Steve Cotterill

What can you say. Don't need to. Except, shafted. Should have been supported but by then nepo boy was on the horizon and Crayon Boy was his mate, and so it came to pass that a managerial imbecile with a win rate of 37% in the 3rd division was showered with gifts in the Championship.

 

Nigel Pearson

Achieved different things in different ways. On paper, given mediocre results, unprecedented support from a fan base that recognised what he was doing and had done. Treated disgraefully, replaced though by a manager who apparently would get the most out of our "top 6 quality" squad.

 

And so now Liam Manning.

Didn't want him, hard to warm to him. And yet. Win rate of 48% at Lommel, MK and Oxford. 29% for us. Why? Is the step up too much? Has Crayon Boy put too much expectation on him? Will he come good?

Is there hope?

 

Been covered before, but Cotts was a Dawe appointment.

8 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Tinnion said a couple of weeks ago crowds are on the up. Absolute rubbish, crowds will be below 17K in league one. 

Also no way was there the announced figures there today - 19k. Tops.

10 hours ago, Sturgess said:

I don’t think he’d ever make it to the boardroom to get the news, he only knows sideways and backwards.

Not only that - this board lack so much balls like a bad boyfriend they'd probably do it via text message.

On 26/02/2024 at 09:27, robinforlife2 said:

Pearson was no better and we were equally as inconsistent. Sacking Manning to bring back Pearson would be like swapping Pasta for Spaghetti, it won't achieve anything and will just be exactly the same, only look a little different. 

Are talking about this season when he was in charge, and the whole - ya know - injury crisis where Sykes played at LB and Joseph James - who Manning doesn't even name on the bench once, was RB?

Or are we talking about last season when once NP nailed down 4-3-3 and we actually looked consistent, performance wise, and just needed to make sure Scott was replaced but the Heirarchy decided that was too straight forward and took a massive risk on TGH that for me has completely flattered to deceive.

Only way I'd even contemplate it with my budgets being tight buying a new house the end of the year would be if they sacked Manning and Tinnion, and reappointed NP and gave him reign to clear house.

Otherwise that £200+ renewal cost is going on building materials - now that Wickes isn't going to be there (which is actually really annoying). DIY and watching the paint dry would genuinely give me more fulfillment.

27 minutes ago, Superjack said:

The biggest ego of all?

 

Unlikely.

*sigh*

Let me find Keith Dawe's phone number....

9 minutes ago, prankerd said:

Unless we get dragged into a relegation battle, theres zero chance.

Surely he needs a pre-season anyways? 

On the evidence, he doesn't deserve a preseason being frank.

A 6ft thick pillbox is more flexible.

15 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Like they were never ever going to fire LJ even if he took us to multiple relegations? That used to get said on here a lot and he ultimately went for not getting close enough to the playoffs.

He went as he absolutely lost the squad due to his own horrific man management and overspending.

1 hour ago, Top Robin said:

I don't give a toss what people say or think about me....this whole forum is a just bit of fun and amuses me when I'm bored at home.

That's honestly... just a bit sad.

1 hour ago, Beni71 said:

We ain’t getting anything Tuesday night. By Saturday we could be 3 points off relegation and a huge Mother’s Day clash. If that ends in defeat I’m not sure LMs position is tenable.

In steps the Pearson old guard to keep us up.

Almost would feel if that happened get NP to lead football matters. Could advise King etc.

Add Lisa Knight as well.

Director of Communication my left foot.

41 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

No, I would broadcast them live on Sky. Just for avoidance of doubt…….

Their egos would love that.

And I'd love Cooper to shoot them down live on sky in front millions, maybe that would humble them - doubtful, but I can dream.

1 minute ago, Pezo said:

Yep, everyone has raised expectations based on what the execs have said and we are clearly falling a long way short of.

I feel sorry for Manning, a job he wanted, a club desperate for him to do well and a level he isn't capable of.

Don't think it's even that at this stage. He's just failing.

7 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

Yes it was poor, but even amongst the numerous negatives there are aways some positives, and they are:

 - We were not outplayed and looked fairly solid in midfield and defensively 

- We restricted them to a couple of chances (yes they scored from one)

- They scored against the run of play

- If we can improve things in the final third, we will be much better

- we have some decent players waiting to come back who should really improve things.

 

Yet if that was NP today you would have slated him.

Joke.

33 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Indeed, key point. Manning just does not come across as a leader.

Where do you see the next win Dave? Serious question.

I'm not Dave. But I seriously can't see us picking up anything this month, especially Ipswich nor Leicester. At best a point at Swansea, as Williams seems to have turned a corner.