JasonM88 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Injured for an ‘extended’ period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, JasonM88 said: Injured for an ‘extended’ period of time. https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/smith-facing-extended-period-on-sidelines/ Yet another bloody injury............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 He is having knee surgery tomorrow https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/smith-facing-extended-period-on-sidelines/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Loan window still open at least. Best these things happen now. (Desperately looking for some positives here). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, JasonM88 said: Injured for an ‘extended’ period of time. ... and so it continues. Fortunately, we have enough midfielders to live without him for a bit. If another defender gets crocked however, i may have to bring my football boots to the next game. Can always get an XL kit from the shop of called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnowleUtd City Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Our recent injury luck has been woeful, FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This season is already turning into a nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 A blow. Wishing Korey a swift and complete return to fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Pack and Brownhill starting together centrally will be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lympsham Red Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Real blow this. Always rated Korey. Hope it's nothing too serious, we all know that some players are never the same after injury. Could be a good chance for Liam Walsh to step up though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Might force LJ to play Brownhill in the middle, and actually start playing 2 wingers considering we have Elliasson, COD and Watkins (plus Hakeeb when fit) who can play there, instead of playing people in incorrect positions (ie Watkins upfront) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 If anyone has time. Would be interesting to see a breakdown of our (many) injuries this year and how many were in-game and how many in training? Think most have come in-game, but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, brad blit said: Might force LJ to play Brownhill in the middle, and actually start playing 2 wingers considering we have Elliasson, COD and Watkins (plus Hakeeb when fit) who can play there, instead of playing people in incorrect positions (ie Watkins upfront) Brownhill has been playing in the middle. We played 4-3-3 of Saturday. I feel that is probably what we’ll go for when Diedhoui is fit. However I’m now not sure it will work without Smith in there. O’Dowda has been playing in centre mid for Ireland, perhaps we’ll see that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, KnowleUtd City said: Our recent injury luck has been woeful, FFS. Is it just bad luck though? Does make you wonder if the club has enough focus on exercising to promote flexibility and suppleness, as well as building up muscle strength... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chaplain Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, brad blit said: Might force LJ to play Brownhill in the middle, and actually start playing 2 wingers considering we have Elliasson, COD and Watkins (plus Hakeeb when fit) who can play there, instead of playing people in incorrect positions (ie Watkins upfront) Isn’t that what he did for the first two games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Chaplain said: Isn’t that what he did for the first two games? Haha sorry I meant that perhaps we should play a formation suited to the players we currently have, ie 4231 or 4411 with Brownhill in the middle with Pack as we have lots of wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just hope we use Walsh or even Joe Morell and develop them rather than another journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefcok Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Was told last week that, whilst you didn’t officially bid, you’d be in for Daniel Johnson and he/his agent were aware of the money on offer. Wouldn't surprise me at all if you bid now. He isn’t signing a new deal and isn’t in the matchday squads at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, pnefcok said: Was told last week that, whilst you didn’t officially bid, you’d be in for Daniel Johnson and he/his agent were aware of the money on offer. Wouldn't surprise me at all if you bid now. He isn’t signing a new deal and isn’t in the matchday squads at the moment. I would be very happy with Johnson (Daniel - Dont get us started on the other one). See you boys have had a relatively solid start, shame you didnt put Stoke away Saturday, like to see them struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I hope he recovers quickly but I think we always look a bit flat when Pack and Smith play together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The irony of selling three rarely injured players is further underlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rich_s said: I hope he recovers quickly but I think we always look a bit flat when Pack and Smith play together. They are the go to pairing when thinks aren’t working out, there’s a reason for that. Both know each others game extremely well, and will always put themselves about. In a season that loooks like it could be quite difficult, they are both needed. 2 seasons ago, during that terrible run, Smith came back into the team with Pack and results instantly improved. They’ve proven before, and they’ll prove again that whilst the two together may not contribute hugely in an attacking sense, when the going gets tough they will fight tooth and nail for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Is this not becoming too much of a coincidence now. Our injury record over last season and continuing into this is appalling. It can’t all be bad luck. Are training/recovery methods being looked at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Someone might correct me if I'm wrong, but most of these injuries have come in-game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, pnefcok said: Was told last week that, whilst you didn’t officially bid, you’d be in for Daniel Johnson and he/his agent were aware of the money on offer. Wouldn't surprise me at all if you bid now. He isn’t signing a new deal and isn’t in the matchday squads at the moment. I’ve always wanted him here, but as I said before my Preston friend indicates he isn’t that highly thought of at Preston? Always seems to play well against us, but maybe that’s just Preston in general Did want you to beat Stoke too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedM said: I’ve always wanted him here, but as I said before my Preston friend indicates he isn’t that highly thought of at Preston? Always seems to play well against us, but maybe that’s just Preston in general Did want you to beat Stoke too. Could be another Carl Hutchings.... Always a world beater against us, rarely more than a panel beater for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 At this rate we will be losing 7-1 tomorrow !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityironman Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spoons said: At this rate we will be losing 7-1 tomorrow !! Don't even joke.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefcok Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, RedM said: I’ve always wanted him here, but as I said before my Preston friend indicates he isn’t that highly thought of at Preston? Always seems to play well against us, but maybe that’s just Preston in general Did want you to beat Stoke too. Very gifted just lacks consistency and a bit of fight. Contract situation hasn’t helped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dredd said: Is this not becoming too much of a coincidence now. Our injury record over last season and continuing into this is appalling. It can’t all be bad luck. Are training/recovery methods being looked at? This was during a game. So it’s a little harsh to blame it on the training methods? I think LJ wants us to play a particular way but perhaps he doesn’t have the players who can sustain that performance for a long period of time, hence the injury crisis. Or the pressing game in general can just cause more injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolBEAT Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 We've got plenty of central midfielders. Walsh would slot in nicely although we are yet to see him hack it in a physical championship game. Brownhill always looks good just in front of Pack in CM. DaSilva needs to start he looks worlds better than Pisano at left back in the time he was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 we are in serious danger of becoming, how do you say it.....******. going to be a long, struggle of a season chaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chaplain Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 It seems Pack and Brownhill are the first choice there at the moment and with Walsh, Morrell and O’dowda able to play it’s not the disaster that it might’ve been. I like Korey though, especially in the more physical games. I’m sure our training methods are rigourously scrutinised and it’s nithing more that bad luck. Even with a slightly deeper squad now though it’s untealust to expect us to compete at the top end with back up players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts_city Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, pnefcok said: Very gifted just lacks consistency and a bit of fight. Contract situation hasn’t helped him. He should fit right in then. Terrible news re smith, as others have said its going to be a tough season without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, pnefcok said: Very gifted just lacks consistency and a bit of fight. Contract situation hasn’t helped him. f *** me that's right up the manager's street, no wonder he likes him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, RedM said: Loan window still open at least. Best these things happen now. (Desperately looking for some positives here). 1 hour ago, Shtanley said: Pack and Brownhill starting together centrally will be a good thing. Yep, feel that Marlon missed Josh on Saturday. 1 hour ago, brad blit said: Might force LJ to play Brownhill in the middle, and actually start playing 2 wingers considering we have Elliasson, COD and Watkins (plus Hakeeb when fit) who can play there, instead of playing people in incorrect positions (ie Watkins upfront) Indeed. Perhaps a blessing...although there are enough games where Korey hasn’t played and you realise what you miss. You e got to think that LJ;s decision to play Marlon and Josh in the first two league games was an indication as to what he sees as his strongest pairing. 1 hour ago, JasonM88 said: Brownhill has been playing in the middle. We played 4-3-3 of Saturday. I feel that is probably what we’ll go for when Diedhoui is fit. However I’m now not sure it will work without Smith in there. O’Dowda has been playing in centre mid for Ireland, perhaps we’ll see that now. Did we? Pretty sure it was 442/4411 depending on how far forward you thought Weimann played? 5 minutes ago, The Chaplain said: It seems Pack and Brownhill are the first choice there at the moment and with Walsh, Morrell and O’dowda able to play it’s not the disaster that it might’ve been. I like Korey though, especially in the more physical games. I’m sure our training methods are rigourously scrutinised and it’s nithing more that bad luck. Even with a slightly deeper squad now though it’s untealust to expect us to compete at the top end with back up players. Sometimes LJ is better when he has less choice / less opportunity to overthink it. If there’s a common theme from Barnsley and Oldham fans it’s that the best runs came when he didn’t have much choice who to pick. That correlates with last Oct/Nov/Dec!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Lew-T said: This was during a game. So it’s a little harsh to blame it on the training methods? I think LJ wants us to play a particular way but perhaps he doesn’t have the players who can sustain that performance for a long period of time, hence the injury crisis. Or the pressing game in general can just cause more injuries? I get it came in a game but training too hard can weaken areas making them susceptible to injury. Same as not recovering properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Gregor remarked that Korey looked to be struggling (fitness-wise) in Spain and he has not been first choice so maybe there was a concern, maybe being carefully managed that has now developed or been made worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, old_eastender said: Is it just bad luck though? Does make you wonder if the club has enough focus on exercising to promote flexibility and suppleness, as well as building up muscle strength... Don't know about that but LJ remarked that he keeps being told that Bailey Wright will be back in 4 or 5 days. Not best pleased with the medical staff it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 IIRC it was a heavy tackle, him and the Boro player went for a 50/50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: The irony of selling three rarely injured players is further underlined. Very good point which goes unnoticed as all 3 pretty much mainstays once they made their breakthrough and were 1st Team regulars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: Don't know about that but LJ remarked that he keeps being told that Bailey Wright will be back in 4 or 5 days. Not best pleased with the medical staff it seems. And yet we let Steve Allen go who performed miracles last season with so many serious long term injuries. Underlines how we’re now doing things very much on the cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: ... and so it continues. Fortunately, we have enough midfielders to live without him for a bit. If another defender gets crocked however, i may have to bring my football boots to the next game. Can always get an XL kit from the shop of called upon. Attwoolls, Whitminster can surely rig you up with a custom job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im_over_ere Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Funny, I read the whole Steve Allen article and it was very much his decision to leave, BC didn't just let him go.......but I guess if you want to get your point across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Korey has seen a specialist today Will have an operation tomorrow Out for an ‘extended period’ Really bad news as far as I’m concerned Who ran over the black cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Yep it just got a whole lot tougher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 You couldn't make it up, all these injuries over the last two years ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What the he'll is going on? Was there ever a more unlucky club than us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Is he actually having an operation...or are they going in to have a look around. I guess it doesn’t look good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Davefevs said: Is he actually having an operation...or are they going in to have a look around. I guess it doesn’t look good though. They didn’t specify Dave DH just said operation and extended period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Bad times. With the Famara suspension and injuries we suddenly look to be showing a lack of depth, which is a worry so early in a season. Brownhill, Pack, Walsh and I guess Hegeler (if he’s fit or not heading out the door before the international window closes) can cover in the middle, but a fit and firing Korey Smith is for me our best central player, so that is a massive loss. I do think the seeming reticence to bring in loan players is strange; yes, we got our fingers burnt with the lads in January, but in a situation like this we’re vulnerable to suspensions and further injuries if we aren’t careful. And what’s happening with Joe Morrell? Came on leaps and bounds as a central midfielder last season, and is one of the few youth prospects we’ve not farmer out yet. Time for the ‘pathway’ to sing for its supper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Mods Pologies I missed the thread ‘Smith’ that was already rolling Could you tidy up and merge , or delete my thread please Ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Oh great. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, Desso said: What the he'll is going on? Was there ever a more unlucky club than us? Is it bad luck though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Is he actually having an operation...or are they going in to have a look around. I guess it doesn’t look good though. Said they were going to operate to look for damage. Think that automatically makes it a few weeks. If there is any damage then you’d assume 8-12 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Time for brownhill to step up in centre mid and elliason on right wing. really hope there is a loan plan as reinforcements needed all over the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, RedDave said: Is it bad luck though? Depends where or when the bulk of the injuries occurred, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City fan 1982 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Another excuse to keep Johnson in a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 We are looking truly ****** defensively. Im assuming LJ had known this for a while and in which case should have sorted out a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Korey has seen a specialist today Will have an operation tomorrow Out for an ‘extended period’ Really bad news as far as I’m concerned Who ran over the black cat Our best player Saturday Prob out till Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What are the odds on us beating last season's record of (I think) 9 operations? I'll lay odds Bailey Wright is the next, LJ having complained that the medical staff keep telling him he will be back in 4 or 5 days. Always a bad sign when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dolman Block B said: Our best player Saturday Prob out till Christmas Really? Thought he did very little (unlike Korey). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Why are knee ops now 8-12 weeks. What has happened to the cartilage op that gets you back in 3-4 weeks? What happened....was taking Joe to toilet when it happened. Was it a twist or impact injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, brad blit said: Might force LJ to play Brownhill in the middle, and actually start playing 2 wingers considering we have Elliasson, COD and Watkins (plus Hakeeb when fit) who can play there, instead of playing people in incorrect positions (ie Watkins upfront) Or playing wingers who play in between the touchline and the line of goal to goal. So we don't actually play with wingers and leave all the crosses to two full backs who are so high up the pitch that they cannot be called defenders! Thus allowing opponents to attack us at will from their wingers. Shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampshire reds Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 thought he would have had a couple of loans in for Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Really? Thought he did very little (unlike Korey). As a massive Korey fan I don’t think he’s been at his best back to the last part of last season He got crocked a few times and played on and played with injuries and also got crunched in the Bournemouth game I wonder whether some of the challenges I can remember seeing him on the end of (and wincing) As he’s gone down have taken their toll This is where they find more of a problem when they operate ten times over (Which if you are a Sag is actually physically possible btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This is really terrible news. Anyone who watched us last season could see that this team looked poor whenever Korey was missing or playing RB. Same for this season. A key squad member and hard to replace. We don't really have anyone else, though one or two midfielders could fill that role, though not like Korey. I wish him well and hope for a speedy recovery. For now though, I think we may have to look at the loan market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I see Matt Smith sent him a nice message Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 hours ago, Rich_s said: I hope he recovers quickly but I think we always look a bit flat when Pack and Smith play together. I was hoping to make light of the situation and get a joke along the lines of ‘flat Pack’ in here - but it ain’t working, I’ve got nothing...I’ll go back to sipping my tea and being miserable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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