SecretSam Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 He's had health issues, the club's a mess, no money, possible points deduction, we'll have to sell our young talents...plus fans are unhappy...will he just say "stuff this" and jack it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 No, he’s stubborn & will start next season in charge. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Sounded royally fed-up in his post-match interview just now….. I hope he doesn’t but wouldn’t be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Would save us having to pay his contract off. I’d rather he stayed, but if it’s he walks vs he’s sacked I’d prefer he walked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Alligator Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 I certainly hope he doesn't. But given that he is unlikely to be able to improve the squad significantly for some time, I wouldn't blame anyone in his position calling it a day. What a mess. New ownership ASAP please. Notwithstanding a very big thanks to SL of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Just now, billywedlock said: We need at least one person at the club who is up for the battle . He won’t walk . We have too many rolling around on the floor already . The club is a mess and it needs people who will and can change us from such a weak set up . He needs 3 years , then we might have the basis for a change . Right now we are in turmoil and it needs careful navigation and people with some backbone . I agree, we need someone to battle through. I appreciate this season was always going to be a struggle, but there seem to be precious few signs of light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasSavage88 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Hopefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galley is our king Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: No, he’s stubborn & will start next season in charge. Good! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Will never walk from what is likely to be his last decent salary. Remember his reputation is also going down the pan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 If he walks, he’ll still be quicker than some of our players. 1 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Similar to Joe Root with the test team, you’d question his sanity if he wanted to stay in position to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 40 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said: Maybe, who knows. It's all getting a bit weird tbh Weird is absolutely the word for it. Listened to him on RB. He talks about 'them' and 'the club' as if he's not part of it. He's been here over a year - pretty much the average tenure of a Championship manager. You cant go on blaming everyone else for ever. Who are the 'they' he's so critical of? The Chairman. Brian Tannin and the U23 staff. That's the implication - as well as the players. Not going to do much for morale. All very odd 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 He couldnt really be any further opposite to what i think SL prefers in his managers. Hes got attitude and with todays comments about us being easy ( easy is my thoughts on soft, easy, nice BCFC too ), hes probably wound SL right up the wrong way.Said it many a time that pro football is cut throat, aggressive, demanding. We are not cut out within the club culture to manage any of these attributes. Far too easy at BCFC. I wouldnt be surprised if NP is on gardening leave during the summer as SL’s toys may be well and truely out of his pram now that his club has been questioned by his manager. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, billywedlock said: We need at least one person at the club who is up for the battle . He won’t walk . We have too many rolling around on the floor already . The club is a mess and it needs people who will and can change us from such a weak set up . He needs 3 years , then we might have the basis for a change . Right now we are in turmoil and it needs careful navigation and people with some backbone . I’m out of likes, but not for the first time you’re spot on IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paignton red Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, tin said: I’m out of likes, but not for the first time you’re spot on IMO. Pay your bloody fiver then ! 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bearded_red said: Similar to Joe Root with the test team, you’d question his sanity if he wanted to stay in position to be honest. I'd question his sanity iv he walked. Its very rare for a manager to walk mainly because of the compensation they will get when sacked. If he walks he gets nothing - if he stays and things don't improve he gets sacked with pay off - if he stays and improves things he'll get an improved contract extension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, nickolas said: He couldnt really be any further opposite to what i think SL prefers in his managers. Hes got attitude and with todays comments about us being easy ( easy is my thoughts on soft, easy, nice BCFC too ), hes probably wound SL right up the wrong way.Said it many a time that pro football is cut throat, aggressive, demanding. We are not cut out within the club culture to manage any of these attributes. Far too easy at BCFC. I wouldnt be surprised if NP is on gardening leave during the summer as SL’s toys may be well and truely out of his pram now that his club has been questioned by his manager. You are aware he has been bombed out of several other clubs for this exact type of behaviour, right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, nickolas said: He couldnt really be any further opposite to what i think SL prefers in his managers. Hes got attitude and with todays comments about us being easy ( easy is my thoughts on soft, easy, nice BCFC too ), hes probably wound SL right up the wrong way.Said it many a time that pro football is cut throat, aggressive, demanding. We are not cut out within the club culture to manage any of these attributes. Far too easy at BCFC. I wouldnt be surprised if NP is on gardening leave during the summer as SL’s toys may be well and truely out of his pram now that his club has been questioned by his manager. 2 hours ago, billywedlock said: We need at least one person at the club who is up for the battle . He won’t walk . We have too many rolling around on the floor already . The club is a mess and it needs people who will and can change us from such a weak set up . He needs 3 years , then we might have the basis for a change . Right now we are in turmoil and it needs careful navigation and people with some backbone . Unfortunately @nickolas is right. The last “tough” manger we had was Cotts, and what happened? I hope @billywedlock is correct and he stays. If he goes we’ll get another manager who isn’t ready to challenge SL, and that means one thing. IMO, it’s league 1 next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbytheriver Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 He did bring the culture of the club into question today!But he is right! SL just wants everything and everyone to be nicey-nicey,and this is our last chance under Pearson,we need to back him.Get rid of all the deadwood,kick ass,otherwise we will soon be back in div 1. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, johnbytheriver said: He did bring the culture of the club into question today!But he is right! SL just wants everything and everyone to be nicey-nicey,and this is our last chance under Pearson,we need to back him.Get rid of all the deadwood,kick ass,otherwise we will soon be back in div 1. Spot on…..give him the tools, just as our former CEO and LJ had and we will be just fine under Nige 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 2 hours ago, SecretSam said: I agree, we need someone to battle through. I appreciate this season was always going to be a struggle, but there seem to be precious few signs of light. I agree, surprised despite all the issues how little identity we have under such an experience manager, bar the obvious progress and exciting progress by some young players, the lack of plan and formation and strategy is poor ..not sure if I'm bothered if he goes or stays ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Waconda said: You are aware he has been bombed out of several other clubs for this exact type of behaviour, right ? Yes. And its behaviours our shitshow of a soft football club needs to create an outfit fit for the rigours of pro football. Edited April 9, 2022 by nickolas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 I said the same when people wanted LJ out. What’s the alternative? It could get much worse! Right now, I don’t see how we’d possibly bring anyone better in with all these issues and money problems. At least NP is here and knows what’s wrong, he’s working towards fixing it and luckily he still seems up for the fight. I think he senses the daggers are out though with that comment today about getting rid of him and the problems will still exist. He needs the time to fix this. I can’t see anyone else doing it, no one with any sanity or reputation in the game would touch us right now IMO 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Waconda said: You are aware he has been bombed out of several other clubs for this exact type of behaviour, right ? I dare say Derby wouldn’t be in the position they are if he hadn’t clashed with Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Robin Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MarcusX said: I said the same when people wanted LJ out. What’s the alternative? It could get much worse! Right now, I don’t see how we’d possibly bring anyone better in with all these issues and money problems. At least NP is here and knows what’s wrong, he’s working towards fixing it and luckily he still seems up for the fight. I think he senses the daggers are out though with that comment today about getting rid of him and the problems will still exist. He needs the time to fix this. I can’t see anyone else doing it, no one with any sanity or reputation in the game would touch us right now IMO I disagree, I think that his time with us shows that he has lost his 'mojo' - and that can happen to managers. Yes he was a good manager a few years back, but that appears to have gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chappers Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 I’m totally indifferent to Pearson and don’t care whether he stays or goes. Low expectations for next season, just hope that a few younger players develop well, as we have, potentially, a decent squad in about 2/3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 If he’s not up for it or thinks the jobs to big for him then **** off 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: I said the same when people wanted LJ out. What’s the alternative? It could get much worse! Right now, I don’t see how we’d possibly bring anyone better in with all these issues and money problems. At least NP is here and knows what’s wrong, he’s working towards fixing it and luckily he still seems up for the fight. I think he senses the daggers are out though with that comment today about getting rid of him and the problems will still exist. He needs the time to fix this. I can’t see anyone else doing it, no one with any sanity or reputation in the game would touch us right now IMO My feeling is that we are at a crossroads right now. I think SL (or whoever) may have made the wrong appointment, and that’s in no way being critical of NP. We all know that there the styles of play, personalities, strategic approaches that managers adopt at a club can vary enormously. The risk is that when you change managers you end up having to change everything about the club - and that takes time. SL did that in the past and said he’d recognised that was a mistake and that he wouldn’t do it again. But he then didn’t seem to be able to think of an option beyond the internal appointment (Holden) to achieve it. And when that failed he reverted to type and just went for a change. He didn’t do what clubs like Brentford and Swansea have done and gone for an external appointment but one who’d absolutely buy into the existing strategy. NP talks about the culture and the softness and the weak approach of recent years, but it’s a culture and an approach that saw us finish in the top half of the table three years running. It’s not fundamentally flawed, it’s just an approach, a culture, that’s diametrically opposed to NPs view of the game. You’re right that he needs time to ‘fix it’, in the sense that fix means ingrain the completely different approach a culture that he sees as the right one. That’s going to involve a complete change of personnel, including potentially a complete overhaul of the academy approach too. My worry is that he just won’t get that time. I really can’t see (and NP said as much in the week) that we’re going to be able to afford to change much in the summer. And if we start next season with NP in charge of what’s essentially the same squad as we have now then we will be heading for relegation. I don’t think SL will countenance relegation as part of the long term plan to overhaul the club. So mid next season we risk being back in the search for another new manager and no real sense of direction in the club. I’m torn now between what you say, give him the time to do what he has to do (and that’s my instinctive approach every time - including like you with LJ) and a feeling that now is the time to cut and run. I’ve no idea who, or who’d come mind you! Edited April 9, 2022 by italian dave 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 9, 2022 Report Share Posted April 9, 2022 Good post @italian dave A good business / football club would know the objectives, the expectations, the indicators / scores that drive the evaluation of performance, etc. The silence continues. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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