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5 minutes ago, Daniro said:
Klose?
Yep would get him in ASAP
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Just now, Henry said:
Bristol
Taunton I believe
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Just now, cidercity1987 said:
Silence at Carrow Road as the away team knock the ball around confidently
Love that we are playing with confidence yeah we are loosing but Norwich are likely to go up again we will beat a lot of teams if we keep our confidence massively improving team.
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11 minutes ago, old_eastender said:
Be good to see Rob Atkinson switched to middle defender and Naismith put to LCB, where he played so well for Luton. His seemingly inevitable schoolboy errors less likely to cost us goals then. However, I fear NP may be a stubborn mule over keeping Naismith in the middle.
Trouble is he gets done for pace down the side
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1 minute ago, Lew-T said:
More than deserved.
Perfect timing that will give nige something to go at at half time
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Just now, steviestevieneville said:
How many goals has he cost us now . Two tonight, the second v Blackburn . One v Sunderland plus got outjumped for their third . Have I missed any ? Oh yeah blackpool
Well been saying many times get him out of back 3 no good as last line how many more goals and points is he going to cost push him into midfield or leave him out.
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Just now, Lanterne Rouge said:
You have to love a full-on diving header!
Top finish never in doubt he is going all the way.
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4 hours ago, OldlandReddies said:
In all the games you say he's cost us goals/points he's stopped so many goal threats and mostly dominated our box. People only highlight the mistakes. It doesn't work that way. We are definitely more solid with him this season. That's what we should all acknowledge. 3 clean sheets at home in 4 games......say no more.
Not true the mistakes are points on the board I am not knocking naismith the opposite I think he is our most influenctial player but he has cost us points that is what we as fans and the management will have to look back on at end of season 3 points lost already will poss mean missing out on playoffs or promotion come end of season, I believe his risky passing at heart of defence will be the thing that comes back to haunt us,
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7 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:
I'm not sure that would work personally, we'd lose that dimension from the back...and in a CM 2 I still have doubts vs the better sides- Naismith in a back 3 also theoretically gives us better in-game flexibility to switch between 2 and 3 in CM, back 4 and back 3 with wingbacks etc.
Agree he has had massive influence from the back.my concern is better sides will likely bring more risky passing from him there,they will know he is open to a risky pass and try and probably work on it.its a bit of a conundrum for me I like a solid klose in there if fit of course. I also like the thought of him picking passes through nearer our forwards who are all mobile now and opening up room for him hmm glad nige us picking the team.
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3 hours ago, marcofisher said:
I think they are different, James very rarely gives the ball away in tight midfield spaces.
Naismith - Great passing range, ability to pick a pass through the lines.
James - Not the same passing range, but able to receive the ball in tight spaces, retain possession and keep the ball ticking over.
Your right but I would prefer naismith giving the ball away in front of defence rather than as last man, and think he would benefit the team there more than James.
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Just now, Mad Cyril said:
If we do, it won't be down to one player, one result or one incident.
Seriously, you would be prepared to sit through turgid hoofball all season for the sake of a hypothetical 3 points?
Not at all I would push maybe our most creative passer in naismith into left of midfield 2 and take his unfortunate errors out of the back 3.
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11 hours ago, Mad Cyril said:
If I think we can realistically win the league - none.
If I think winning the league is unrealistic, I don't care how many points we lose... more interested in how many we win... or more accurately, how many we make a damned fine, positive effort to try to win.
I pay for entertainment, not risk management...
Ok to miss the playoffs by 3 points then
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6 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:
No idea but I’d go with probably not
Ok all opinions are valid and good that there are differences otherwise it would be boring.
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37 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:
It’s not as simple as that though is it
Central midfield is IMHO possible the hardest place to operate , in the middle of a 360 degree sphere of play
Receiving it in central midfield he’s going to be facing his own goal , or at best on the half turn , and far more likely to have someone breathing down his neck as he does so
He has the individual skill to cope , but his options to get his head up and thread passes likely to be more limited , and his ability to ping a long diagonal ball.
Playing with the whole game in front of him maximises his opportunity to play a range of passesI know you’ve said on numerous , numerous , occasions he should be moved , but he was acquired for a specific purpose(s)
Do you not think he could do James job better than James?
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3 hours ago, Davefevs said:
The big question then becomes - how do you get the ball to Naismith without Naismith being at the back to pass it to him?
You can’t just move a player and move all of the “play and patterns” 15-20 yards forward with him.
Same argument / question for those who say he should play LCB3. 1) that means he only becomes an influence when we play down the left side, so you negate “half”of the positives you bring. It’s a similar argument to Better Red saying Antoine should play wide forward…it lessens his chance of getting on the ball, because a lot of the play will go down the opposite flank.
All (!!!) Kal needs to do is just make the odd decision better, some of his defensive work last night was very good, so it’s not like he’s a one-trip “passing pony”, he can defend too.
We are still evolving this system. I’m not blaming Atkinson at all for the bad pass, but maybe he comes a bit narrower next time, because he sees the threat of an underhit pass. As understandings and partnerships build, these things can be reduced.Naismith
If klose or Atkinson or Bentley can't pick a 5 or 10 yd pass to Naismith just in front I'd drop all 3.its not moving all play 15 or 20 yds on and he can come and get it off them also.if he hadn't made the errors he has so far we would have at least 3 extra points which is only a few games .over a season how many points are you happy to drop unnecessarily?
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3 hours ago, Dr Balls said:
The reality is that he is a midfielder who is only playing his second season as a centre back and at Championship level. The mistakes he makes on the ball might be tolerated (just) if he was in midfield (for example Massengo giving the ball away) but are going to get punished more severely if you are the last player at the back. It’s exactly what happened against both Sunderland and Blackpool when we conceded sloppy goals after he either lost the ball or gave it away, so on that basis you could say it’s at least 3 points he has caused us to lose. However other aspects of his game are very good, he just needs a bit of a talking too and coaching from Nige about how to play as a central defender in dangerous situations, and not putting himself in them unnecessary.
Absolutely correct its what I have been saying for quite a while, it's screaming out to me to put him forward. You can have Massengo Williams or scott alongside
Bentley
Vyner klose Atkinson
Sykes Williams naismith Dasilva
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8 minutes ago, red colin said:
No straight swap naismith for James
Bentley
Vyner klose Atkinson
Sykes Williams naismith Dasilva
Seems good to me adding height and quality in front of back 3 and adding naismith passing quality further forward ,pack used to win headers there and we don't have that at the moment in deep midfield.
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Just now, DaveF said:
Change our formation?
No straight swap naismith for James
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Just now, Bourne End Red said:
Individual errors at the back…….
Get klose fit and in at centre back move naismith into left side midfield and we are almost there,
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24 minutes ago, westonred said:
Very Small squad but when you can bring Semenyo, Williams, Martin and HNM on shows how strong we are
I think we have a very decent squad all being fit,think nige has done very well on squad selection without breaking the bank.i really think he hasn't quite got to his first eleven choice just yet and yet still improving fair play to him , I would be over the moon with top 10 finish after the last few seasons and so far so good.
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Just now, old_eastender said:
Naismith nearly gives it away in the box
How many more
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2 minutes ago, old_eastender said:
Naismity nearly gives a goal away again, with awful pass across field.
Said before get him into james role he has cost us 3 points at least already he is too casual for last line if defence
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1 minute ago, Tafkarmlf said:
Close from Andi
My stream is miles behind
Great save from their keeper mind from Andi
Think Wells will need a performance and a goal tonight Semenyo is breathing down his neck to start now
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10 hours ago, grifty said:
He can get the time if he's clever enough to find the space. If you watch off the ball, Williams and Massengo are very static when the defenders (more so Vyner & Atkinson) have the ball and often have an attacker in between stopping the simple pass in the middle. Small movements from either of them could open up the middle allowing a through ball or a simple pass, but they sort of just stand there looking around until Vyner pumps it down the line or Atkinson has a little run and passed to Jay. Scott is very good at this movement. and allows him to pick up the ball in space.
I think Naismith is clever enough to find these spaces which will give him time to pick passes out once in possession.
Seeing our central CB who is not blessed with pace and is normally last man attempting two Cruyff turns in 5 seconds is an unnecessary risk that we can't afford to take. Not to mention the attempted dribble v Hull where he lost it and they scored and the woeful pass today that set Blackpool through where fortunately the attacker turned back in to him and then there is playing an outside of the boot cross goal pass that bounces shin high to Vyner in the last minute of a game...
IMO his delivery and ability on the ball is wasted while playing the central defender of a back 3 and at times has shown to be a liability.
spot on
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