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As the Ipswich manager pointed out, we now have structure in defence and block many channels. He said we were fit, and dangerous when we countered. No mention of possession football and an ability to break teams down, which is what Manning said he wants to do. Instead...when we do play with the ball, it's so incredibly easy to defend against. Opposition teams are structured and disciplined. They aren't going to be drawn into moves out of that structure. Tbh...when watching, our defenders and DMs are now going through the motions of moving the ball side to side, without even looking to see if they can draw players. Then it's the same old crap...knock it wide, and either attempt a cross, or cut inside. It's incredibly predictable, and the way Manning talks, makes it sound like Rocket science. The only time we really trouble sides, is when we block and regain possession, and quickly attack on the counter...when the opposition aren't in defensive shape. Manning has also admitted in interviews that his way of playing is considered the hardest in football to do well, high risk for reward, is known that you have to have the right players to play that way to succeed and it's easy to play against if disciplined and structured. Also leaves gaps for the opponents to exploit wide in the channels. His philosophy is too ingrained and comes from his background.

It's grim reading when you look at the form table over the last 10 games. https://footystats.org/england/championship/form-table

What he doesn't mention in the article, is what he did/ does to change the circumstances and fine margins in his favour. Lots of coaches say this about the championship, but never discuss how to beat those margins.

Tommy is a good striker, and imo at his best in a three or two. He's a ' natural' goal scorer. Our Muppet in charge has come in and told him all about pressing and defending. He'll be in constant contact with Alex and Antoine and know about the other side... he'll be desperate to leave and I don't blame him. Long gone are my days of wanting to see Bell, Conway, Scott, Benourous, Semenyo, Pring winning promotion together

No we won't improve...because we don't have a squad that can play that way, continually every game, over a whole season, with that intensity, without getting injuries ( we've had loads, another tonight). We put in performances like that once in a blue moon. Our coach reacted to Subs again, instead of being pro active and subbing first when we went 2-1 up. He cocked up again...regardless of a better performance. He would of known the likes of Burns would be brought on in the second half. And he kept Pring on with an injury. Roberts should have been on way before Burns came on. And Mehmetti should have been hooked as well. And put King on. He's reactionary rather than pro active.

We could easily get dragged into a relegation battle, you only have to look at teams below us picking up points. Sheff Wed 4 wins on the trot now. QPR doing similar. 6 points off relegation.

JL wouldn't be holding back money if BT was behind NP. You imo, are giving way too much ' authority's to JL. Imagine... ' High Jon, it's Dad...I see you want to sack NP? Yes Dad...he broke my crayons. Regardless of that Jon...have you spoken to Brian? Yes Dad...he wants to keep NP. But I'm going to over rule him. But Jon...you know **** all about football, that's why we've put Brian in place to run the footballing side. I suggest you speak to him and listen to his guidance....But Dad...he hurt my feelings...shut up Jon, listen to Brian.'

Seriously RR...that's nuts. If BT had wanted NP here, and JL had sacked NP on a whim, because he could, BT would have gone nuts. The amount of time put into the players, recruitment, analysis, money, contracts etc etc...you just don't sack someone on a whim. This sacking was planned months ahead....hence no money being given to NP. They were just biding their time. JL won't be making decisions...he will be getting advice from BT. This was led by the footballing side of the club and signed off by JL and SL.

Cmon RR...you can't be serious? Of course he was involved. He's the footballing technical director. The guy running the football side of the show. JL isn't going to sack NP on his own. In fact it was most likely a directive from BT to JL to dismiss. Can you imagine JL saying to BT he's going to sack NP if BT supported NP. Not a chance.

Cheers Dave, I would have said more re explanation, but at work, so snatching moments when I can.

From when Manning took over Lommel FC in Belgium. Quote... when I arrived were used to playing with a low block, hardly any possession and hoping to nick a goal on a counter-attack or through a set-piece. Our plan was to play football at the complete opposite end of the spectrum. We had some difficult moments, because we were trying to teach them what is – in my opinion – the hardest way to play football. We wanted to dominate possession, create and exploit overloads, press high up the pitch and play attacking, high-intensity football. https://www.cityfootballgroup.com/our-story/ https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/liam-manning-interview-mk-dons-west-ham-new-york-city/ It's worth noting that Manning shares the football philosophy set out at City football group...pretty much designed to feed Man City. Lommel FC tactics... https://breakingthelines.com/tactical-analysis/steve-boulds-new-role-at-lommel-sk-a-tactical-deep-dive-2/

Agreed...but I'd enjoy it more if we did it the right way. So were Sheff Utd imo. ATM...we are nearer league 1.

Imagine if we ever snuck in via the the playoff's. Doesn't bare thinking about. Gives me shivers thinking about who would be responsible for recruiting and dealing with the money.

Like you say...defies all logic.

He's never going to say anything that is negative towards the club or Manning. Always sits on the fence.

The blokes a clown...talks about players being too emotional and needing to control their emotions...then bangs on about himself getting emotional in the changing room in front of the lads. Can you imagine him getting angry and shouting? I'd piss myself laughing. He's turning into David Brent. One snippet from that article that maybe worth noting, possibly looking abroad for forwards?!

Whilst it's highly unlikely to not win anymore games, the chances of beating Ipswich are remote. We've taken 8 points from a possible 30 in the last ten games. Whilst they've taken 21. If it wasn't for Rotherham we'd sit bottom of the form guide over 10 game segments. Relegation form. https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:championship/form/matches:10/type:home-and-away/

The more I think about it, the angrier I get regarding his appointment. We've gone for a 38 year old, with less than 4 years experience in any senior position,of first team football, at far less a level than what we are at. He's only coached 164 senior games to date. And averages 8 months in a job. From NP who's got vast amounts of experience, to this... They want to get rid of our experienced players as well. How the hell do JL and BT think this will ever work? They seriously can't be that inept at footballing judgement at this level? If they are...then **** me I personally believe it's to make their position easier. Well imo...they've made it worse for themselves. Who's gonna trust these idiots?

I'd definitely give him help...out the door, him and his sidekick kick.

He was spot on...there are some teams that have improved slightly. Wasn't the race time two minutes quicker this season?

I can't see that working, it will be at odds to how he wants to set up and play. We have a squad that is comfortably mid table quality. And here in lies the problem, as JL and BT think with better coaching they should be pushing for the play offs. NP played to our squads strengths. He achieved a slow upward curve of mid table stability. LM is trying a system that doesn't play to our strengths. That imo, is why we are on a downward spiral. Also...imo, he struggles when we have a plethora of fit players to choose from. Often picking the wrong players and system against opposition. Too much change. Now he wants us to go back to basics It's jumbled coaching imo. Better he leaves.

Wish I'd been a teenager/ early 20s in the 60s and early 70s. Before my time. But I watch old footage from back then and imo you are totally correct. Plus the music was fresh. Sounds odd...but I wish I was older so I could have experienced that.

The problem with Manning is the arrogance. He's used terminology and phrases recently where he speaks about players not taking on board his knowledge of overcoming defeats and becoming stronger. And such like. Can you imagine what half our squad are thinking when this bloke speaks. He's literally got no experience compared to the majority of our squad that have played way above everything he's ever achieved. A coach with ideas on tactics, a game plan, I can take...but telling the likes of James, King, Wells etc of how they need to be mentally stronger, and how he will tell them how, when they've done it so to speak, is down right delusional, disrespectful and arrogant. The bloke is a legend only in his head, and I haven't got a clue what his sidekick does apart from smirk and talk to his hand. Led by donkeys.

You've got him looking after number one...BT looking after number one, but now between a rock and a hard place, and Crayola with a 1000 yard stare. We're foooked.

Glad your voice is heard via a third party so to speak.